Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-28 Thread Bee.Lists
Then I care that others stop harassing people on remedial stuff.  Because I 
care.  So that means you need to follow suit.  

It’s like being married.


> On Mar 28, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Leon Fauster via CentOS  
> wrote:
> 
> This is valid as also that somebody cares is valid.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-28 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS

Am 28.03.20 um 03:20 schrieb Bee.Lists:

Oh please.  It was all in light of people being anal.

Therefore…

I highly suggest that people refrain from being anal on the list.  People can 
also go to the archives to see that top or bottom posting…nobody cares.



This is valid as also that somebody cares is valid.

Please use your energy (to all subscribers) to answer unanswered 
questions on the list instead using impolitement as a pressure  blowout.


The transition to additional services like forums, feeds and other 3rd 
party exchange portals, the live for a mailing list gets harder. It 
would be great to make this here as pleasant as possible.


--
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Bee.Lists
Oh please.  It was all in light of people being anal.  

Therefore…

I highly suggest that people refrain from being anal on the list.  People can 
also go to the archives to see that top or bottom posting…nobody cares.


> On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:46 PM, Kenneth Porter  wrote:
> 
> --On Friday, March 27, 2020 4:00 PM -0500 Tom Bishop  
> wrote:
> 
>> I know I rarely post but can we keep it civil on the list, with everything
>> that's going on in the world is it really necessary?
> 
> I urge everyone to apply Hanlon's Razor. ;)
> 
> Also, please trim. We don't need to see all that went before. This is a 
> mailing list, not a business email with CC's coming and going that requires 
> the entire exchange be carried in every message to maintain context. With a 
> mailing list, new subscribers can go look at the archives to get the context, 
> so trimming is important. Just give the briefest context necessary to see the 
> relevance of your addition.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, March 27, 2020 4:00 PM -0500 Tom Bishop  
wrote:



I know I rarely post but can we keep it civil on the list, with everything
that's going on in the world is it really necessary?


I urge everyone to apply Hanlon's Razor. ;)

Also, please trim. We don't need to see all that went before. This is a 
mailing list, not a business email with CC's coming and going that requires 
the entire exchange be carried in every message to maintain context. With a 
mailing list, new subscribers can go look at the archives to get the 
context, so trimming is important. Just give the briefest context necessary 
to see the relevance of your addition.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 27 Mar, 2020 at 13:33:02 -0600, R C wrote:
> just to piss off people like you,
> 
> 
> you might know the type, they never really answer any questions, lurk around
> on a forum like this
> 
> acting like a (self-proclaimed) genius lecturing and patronizing people, as
> if they have to be worthy
> 
> to get an answer from you (which you typically never do anyway), formulated
> by your delusional standards.
> 
> If your mindset is like that, why don't you just not answer to begin with,
> nobody is really interested would
> 
> be my best bet.
> 
> 
> and no, my idea of minimal is not 3GB, try and read the thread again.

You stated: "minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so".

> However your personality comes to mind.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/27/20 9:35 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:39:56 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that
> > > terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see
> > > 
> > > links), andof course I meant the official download page.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable 
> > > DVD
> > > as with Centos 7
> > > 
> > > download from : https://www.centos.org/download/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ron
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > is there a minimal install for Centos 8?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ron
> > > > > 
> > > > What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
> > > > provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.
> > Yes, perhaps you could explain to us why you are top posting.
> > 
> > So your idea of minimal is 3GB. Mine is much less. The minimal ISO of 
> > CentOS 7 is < 1GB:
> > 
> > http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/centos/7.7.1908/isos/x86_64/
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread R C

Hi,


someone pointed out the 'boot' iso, it's approx 600Mb, which works if 
you can connect to a network.  I used that.



In previous versions, I just downloaded the 'minimal install iso', 
mostly because it is a habbit because my network connection used to


be a lot slower, so I downloaded them over night.

I tend to install in different ways at work, just depends.  Of course 
you can get the 7.something or 8.something iso, mount it on a loop


and export it to use it as an install, or http, or kickstart etc etc..  
but if not too big, having a disk with it comes in handy.


(especially if it is not supported anymore, and you really need that old 
disto, because of that 'thing' you need to run  *lol*)



It's not headless, I have a few machines on a kvm switch,  but after the 
initial install I use as if they are.



Yeah I don't care much about top or bottom either,  if someone likes 
top, it's top, if someone likes bottom it's bottom   *lol*



I think posting on top is easier than bottom than shredded in the 
middle,   less likely overlook stuff that way   whatever you choose, 
some


just like top, others get po-ed by it..  can't make everyone happy all 
the tme.



thanks for the tip !


Ron



On 3/27/20 3:08 PM, Bee.Lists wrote:

Hi R C.

The resulting installation is smaller than the image that you download through 
FTP, etc.  When I first installed this OS during version 5, I was amazed that 
the installation took a  mere fraction of the time it took to go through the 
menu.  Heh.

Anyway, give it a whirl as it’s quick.  I’m assuming you mean a headless 
installation.

Oh and I’m top posting because it’s logical.




On Mar 26, 2020, at 8:12 PM, R C  wrote:

What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Bee.Lists
Hi R C.

The resulting installation is smaller than the image that you download through 
FTP, etc.  When I first installed this OS during version 5, I was amazed that 
the installation took a  mere fraction of the time it took to go through the 
menu.  Heh.  

Anyway, give it a whirl as it’s quick.  I’m assuming you mean a headless 
installation.  

Oh and I’m top posting because it’s logical.  



> On Mar 26, 2020, at 8:12 PM, R C  wrote:
> 
> What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Tom Bishop
On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 2:33 PM R C  wrote:

> just to piss off people like you,
>
>
> you might know the type, they never really answer any questions, lurk
> around on a forum like this
>
> acting like a (self-proclaimed) genius lecturing and patronizing people,
> as if they have to be worthy
>
> to get an answer from you (which you typically never do anyway),
> formulated by your delusional standards.
>
> If your mindset is like that, why don't you just not answer to begin
> with, nobody is really interested would
>
> be my best bet.
>
>
> and no, my idea of minimal is not 3GB, try and read the thread again.
> However your personality comes to mind.
>
>
>
> On 3/27/20 9:35 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:39:56 -0600, R C wrote:
> >> well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that
> >> terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see
> >>
> >> links), andof course I meant the official download page.
> >>
> >>
> >> minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable
> DVD
> >> as with Centos 7
> >>
> >> download from : https://www.centos.org/download/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?
> >>
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:
>  Hello,
> 
> 
>  is there a minimal install for Centos 8?
> 
> 
>  What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'
> 
> 
>  thanks,
> 
> 
>  Ron
> 
> >>> What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
> >>> provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.
> > Yes, perhaps you could explain to us why you are top posting.
> >
> > So your idea of minimal is 3GB. Mine is much less. The minimal ISO of
> CentOS 7 is < 1GB:
> >
> > http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/centos/7.7.1908/isos/x86_64/
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I know I rarely post but can we keep it civil on the list, with everything
that's going on in the world is it really necessary? If it bothers you that
much just delete the email it's awful easy to do these days and poof it's
gone from your inbox, problem solved.

There is no need for that level of discourse on this mail list.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread R C

just to piss off people like you,


you might know the type, they never really answer any questions, lurk 
around on a forum like this


acting like a (self-proclaimed) genius lecturing and patronizing people, 
as if they have to be worthy


to get an answer from you (which you typically never do anyway), 
formulated by your delusional standards.


If your mindset is like that, why don't you just not answer to begin 
with, nobody is really interested would


be my best bet.


and no, my idea of minimal is not 3GB, try and read the thread again. 
However your personality comes to mind.




On 3/27/20 9:35 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote:

On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:39:56 -0600, R C wrote:

well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that
terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see

links), andof course I meant the official download page.


minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable DVD
as with Centos 7

download from : https://www.centos.org/download/



anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?


Ron




On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:

On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:

Hello,


is there a minimal install for Centos 8?


What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'


thanks,


Ron


What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.

Yes, perhaps you could explain to us why you are top posting.

So your idea of minimal is 3GB. Mine is much less. The minimal ISO of CentOS 7 is 
< 1GB:

http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/centos/7.7.1908/isos/x86_64/
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:39:56 -0600, R C wrote:
> well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that
> terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see
> 
> links), andof course I meant the official download page.
> 
> 
> minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable DVD
> as with Centos 7
> 
> download from : https://www.centos.org/download/
> 
> 
> 
> anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?
> 
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > is there a minimal install for Centos 8?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'
> > > 
> > > 
> > > thanks,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ron
> > > 
> > What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
> > provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.

Yes, perhaps you could explain to us why you are top posting.

So your idea of minimal is 3GB. Mine is much less. The minimal ISO of CentOS 7 
is < 1GB:

http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/centos/7.7.1908/isos/x86_64/
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-26 Thread R C

Hi David,


right, that's the easies, have something minimal (or 'boot' if it is 
called that), that you can just install a basic machine with, and


install everything else as needed while connected to a network.


Yup, 600Mb is kinda stiff.  I am installing it on a physical box.


thanks!


Ron



On 3/26/20 6:41 PM, david wrote:

At 05:12 PM 3/26/2020, R C wrote:

Hello,


is there a minimal install for Centos 8?


What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'


thanks,


Ron



Ron:

The ISO called 'boot' is the equivalent.  When you get to selecting 
the software, choose 'minimal', or whichever option seems to work best 
for you.  I chose 'minimal', because I have scripts that install just 
what I want.


It's beyond me why it takes 600 megs, but at least it fits on a CD (if 
anyone still uses them).  And it does work on at least one physical 
box and a VirtualBox VM on windows.


David



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-26 Thread david

At 05:12 PM 3/26/2020, R C wrote:

Hello,


is there a minimal install for Centos 8?


What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'


thanks,


Ron



Ron:

The ISO called 'boot' is the equivalent.  When 
you get to selecting the software, choose 
'minimal', or whichever option seems to work best 
for you.  I chose 'minimal', because I have 
scripts that install just what I want.


It's beyond me why it takes 600 megs, but at 
least it fits on a CD (if anyone still uses 
them).  And it does work on at least one physical 
box and a VirtualBox VM on windows.


David



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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-26 Thread R C
well,  sorry,  I thought it was somewhat "self-explaining", since that 
terminology was used up until Centos 7 (see


links), andof course I meant the official download page.


minimal: as in approx 3Gb or so that fits on a regular 4-5Gb rewritable 
DVD as with Centos 7


download from : https://www.centos.org/download/



anything else blatantly obvious you need me to have spelled out?


Ron




On 3/26/20 6:27 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:

On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:

Hello,


is there a minimal install for Centos 8?


What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'


thanks,


Ron


What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-26 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 26 Mar, 2020 at 18:12:50 -0600, R C wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 
> is there a minimal install for Centos 8?
> 
> 
> What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> 
> Ron
> 

What you see is something the rest of us can not, because you don't
provide links. What you regard as 'minimal' I have no idea.
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[CentOS] Centos 8 minimal install

2020-03-26 Thread R C

Hello,


is there a minimal install for Centos 8?


What I see is a 7.4Gb and a 8Gb iso,  that can't be 'minimal'


thanks,


Ron

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