Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-17 Thread Roy Trubshaw
Brian T Brunner wrote:.


[Snipped]

 In .vimrc
 :set sw=4
 :set ai
 In .bashrc
 alias diff='diff -bw'

Personally I like:
alias diff='diff -bBiw'

YMMV

Toodles,
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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-17 Thread Devin Reade
--On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 02:52:22 PM -0700 Keith Keller
kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us wrote:

 I am constantly frustrated by being limited to a whole number of spaces.
 What if I want pi spaces?  Or e*i?

I would like to introduce other space operators as well.  For example,
we could use d(space)/dt to not only have spaces in our config file,
but indicate how quickly we typed them.

Imagine the possibilities:

  - Do you want your whitespace to also indicate the number of 
configuration parameters?  There's a lim(sigma(space) sub (w-infinity))
for that

  - Tired of typing all those spaces? Just use M-x dirac-delta-space
and you're done.  (Mind you, it removes all other spaces from all
other config files on your system and puts them into the current file,
so you might have to be careful when invoking it.)

  - How about bra and ket space operators for those days when you're
not sure if you want spaces or not, and want to defer the answer
until someone reads the file?


(Devin wanders off to code up the lisp for emacs' M-x laplacian-space-mode
...)


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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-17 Thread m . roth
Devin Reade wrote:
 --On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 02:52:22 PM -0700 Keith Keller
 kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us wrote:

 I am constantly frustrated by being limited to a whole number of spaces.
 What if I want pi spaces?  Or e*i?

 I would like to introduce other space operators as well.  For example,
 we could use d(space)/dt to not only have spaces in our config file,
 but indicate how quickly we typed them.

 Imagine the possibilities:

   - Do you want your whitespace to also indicate the number of
 configuration parameters?  There's a lim(sigma(space) sub
 (w-infinity))
 for that

   - Tired of typing all those spaces? Just use M-x dirac-delta-space
 and you're done.  (Mind you, it removes all other spaces from all
snip
Minkowski space?

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-17 Thread Devin Reade
--On Friday, June 17, 2011 02:27:22 PM -0400 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Minkowski space?

Sure.  I'll implement M-x minkowski-space-mode as soon as I
get 'elsewhere' (in Minkowski terms, that is).

Devin

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-17 Thread m . roth
Devin Reade wrote:
 --On Friday, June 17, 2011 02:27:22 PM -0400 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Minkowski space?

 Sure.  I'll implement M-x minkowski-space-mode as soon as I
 get 'elsewhere' (in Minkowski terms, that is).

You're sure that's not a vim option?

mark

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/17/2011 2:02 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Devin Reade wrote:
 --On Friday, June 17, 2011 02:27:22 PM -0400 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Minkowski space?

 Sure.  I'll implement M-x minkowski-space-mode as soon as I
 get 'elsewhere' (in Minkowski terms, that is).

 You're sure that's not a vim option?


No, only emacs has commands like Meta-X psychoanalyze-pinhead. 
Seriously - that's a real command installed on millions of computers for 
decades.  Try it.

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-17 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 6/17/2011 2:02 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Devin Reade wrote:
 --On Friday, June 17, 2011 02:27:22 PM -0400 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Minkowski space?

 Sure.  I'll implement M-x minkowski-space-mode as soon as I
 get 'elsewhere' (in Minkowski terms, that is).

 You're sure that's not a vim option?

 No, only emacs has commands like Meta-X psychoanalyze-pinhead.
 Seriously - that's a real command installed on millions of computers for
 decades.  Try it.

I know how to get in, and out, of emacs. Did you see yesterday's XKCD?

But... plaease don't tell me that emacs comes with eliza

mark

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-17 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/17/2011 2:36 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 6/17/2011 2:02 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Devin Reade wrote:
 --On Friday, June 17, 2011 02:27:22 PM -0400 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Minkowski space?

 Sure.  I'll implement M-x minkowski-space-mode as soon as I
 get 'elsewhere' (in Minkowski terms, that is).

 You're sure that's not a vim option?

 No, only emacs has commands like Meta-X psychoanalyze-pinhead.
 Seriously - that's a real command installed on millions of computers for
 decades.  Try it.

 I know how to get in, and out, of emacs. Did you see yesterday's XKCD?

No, but that is funny.

 But... plaease don't tell me that emacs comes with eliza

Yes - and then some. You need something to waste those cycles that you 
save by running awk instead of perl.

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-16 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 On 06/15/2011 10:41 PM, Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot
 of advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional
 wisdom might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?
 
 Three is evil, four even more. Two spaces and what do they say? It
 will keep sanity close and evil at bay. Three won't work, we all know
 she's a jerk. Four is a fail, it's missing a two so can never be the
 grail. Just two FTW! Anything more is just a deadly sin.
 
 Regards,
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[CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread Mike A. Harris
Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot of 
advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional wisdom 
might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 04:41:44PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot of 
 advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional wisdom 
 might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?

I'm fully capable of driving to Canada to set you on fire, Mike.





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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread m . roth
Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot of
 advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional wisdom
 might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?

Indentation wars. I don't *think* there was a usenet newsgroup for that

  mark, prefers 3 anyway

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Thompson
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot of
 advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional wisdom
 might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?

 Indentation wars. I don't *think* there was a usenet newsgroup for that

It's four, unless I'm holding a beer. Then it's 2.

Steve
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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread Cody Jackson
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 04:41:44PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot of
 advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional wisdom
 might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?

I prefer two or four, usually two. Three is extremely disturbing to me
because it is not a multiple of two; in addition, due to the potato
incident as a child, I am forever mentally scarred and incapable of
pressing the spacebar three times without recalling the tangy,
nauseating smell of potato salad. Two or four shall be the number of
spaces in my config files. Three is right out, as is five.

Cheers,
Cody Jackson

On 6/15/11, Steve Thompson s...@vgersoft.com wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot of
 advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional wisdom
 might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?

 Indentation wars. I don't *think* there was a usenet newsgroup for
 that

 It's four, unless I'm holding a beer. Then it's 2.

 Steve
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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread m . roth
Cody Jackson wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 04:41:44PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot of
 advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional wisdom
 might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?

 I prefer two or four, usually two. Three is extremely disturbing to me
 because it is not a multiple of two; in addition, due to the potato
 incident as a child, I am forever mentally scarred and incapable of
 pressing the spacebar three times without recalling the tangy,
 nauseating smell of potato salad. Two or four shall be the number of
 spaces in my config files. Three is right out, as is five.

Five, it goes BOOM, and, being bad in Thy Sight, will buy it.

mark

 Cheers,
 Cody Jackson

 On 6/15/11, Steve Thompson s...@vgersoft.com wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot
 of
 advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional wisdom
 might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?

 Indentation wars. I don't *think* there was a usenet newsgroup for
 that

 It's four, unless I'm holding a beer. Then it's 2.

 Steve
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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Five, it goes BOOM, and, being bad in Thy Sight, will buy it.

mark

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/15/2011 3:41 PM, Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot of
 advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional wisdom
 might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?

White space should be meaningless, but unnecessary changes to existing 
files destroy most intelligent attempts to track differences.

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread Keith Keller
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:23:29PM -0700, Cody Jackson wrote:
 
 I prefer two or four, usually two. Three is extremely disturbing to me
 because it is not a multiple of two

I am constantly frustrated by being limited to a whole number of spaces.
What if I want pi spaces?  Or e*i?

--keith

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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Thompson
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Keith Keller wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:23:29PM -0700, Cody Jackson wrote:

 I prefer two or four, usually two. Three is extremely disturbing to me
 because it is not a multiple of two

 I am constantly frustrated by being limited to a whole number of spaces.
 What if I want pi spaces?  Or e*i?

You can get e^(i*pi) spaces with the BS key.
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Re: [CentOS] Config file semantics.

2011-06-15 Thread Patrick Lists
On 06/15/2011 10:41 PM, Mike A. Harris wrote:
 Personally, I find that indenting config files by 3 spaces has a lot of
 advantages to indenting them by 4 spaces although conventional wisdom
 might suggest otherwise.  Who's with me on this?

Three is evil, four even more. Two spaces and what do they say? It will 
keep sanity close and evil at bay. Three won't work, we all know she's a 
jerk. Four is a fail, it's missing a two so can never be the grail. Just 
two FTW! Anything more is just a deadly sin.

Regards,
Patrick
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