Re: [CentOS] Deciding when to do system encryption

2011-10-11 Thread m . roth
Bade Iriabho wrote:
 Hello All,

 I have read that system encryption slows a computer down. However, I am
 more interested in when to use it. Consider the following scenarios:

Some, but not that much (depending on how you're using the system).

 1. You have a server in a secured server room on a rack (is there any need
 and advantage to having system encryption in this particular case)

Only if there's requirements from above... or if you're going to be
pulling drives as backups, say, and taking them out of there.

 2. you have a server sitting in an office that is accessible by everyone

It would be a good idea.

 2. You have a desktop

Depends on who has access, and how much your data's worth.

 3. You have a laptop
snip
The US gov't, and federal contractors, require encryption on all laptops.
Many companies are starting to go that way. Do *you* really want to read
in the papers, or have your manager call you in (if it's a work laptop),
and tell you what happened to all the information on your laptop? Or how
someone broke into it, and used it to get to *their* network?

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] Deciding when to do system encryption

2011-10-11 Thread Bade Iriabho
Thanks guys, Paul you make very good points. Noted...

 1. You have a server in a secured server room on a rack (is there any
need
 and advantage to having system encryption in this particular case)

 Only if there's requirements from above... or if you're going to be
 pulling drives as backups, say, and taking them out of there.

Very interesting, Your response just gave me another question :) If I have
system encrytion on a server with RAID (dont think the type matters, but
lets say RAID 5) and hot-swappable drives and one drive fails. What happens
when you replace the drive, how do you handle rebuilding the data on the new
drive with system encryption? are there online resources/links for handling
rebuilding the data on new drives when the server/PC already had system
encryption. Or are my questions/thoughts on this way of course.

B.I.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:10 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Bade Iriabho wrote:
  Hello All,
 
  I have read that system encryption slows a computer down. However, I am
  more interested in when to use it. Consider the following scenarios:

 Some, but not that much (depending on how you're using the system).
 
  1. You have a server in a secured server room on a rack (is there any
 need
  and advantage to having system encryption in this particular case)

 Only if there's requirements from above... or if you're going to be
 pulling drives as backups, say, and taking them out of there.

  2. you have a server sitting in an office that is accessible by everyone

 It would be a good idea.

  2. You have a desktop

 Depends on who has access, and how much your data's worth.

  3. You have a laptop
 snip
 The US gov't, and federal contractors, require encryption on all laptops.
 Many companies are starting to go that way. Do *you* really want to read
 in the papers, or have your manager call you in (if it's a work laptop),
 and tell you what happened to all the information on your laptop? Or how
 someone broke into it, and used it to get to *their* network?

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] Deciding when to do system encryption

2011-10-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 10/11/2011 04:43 PM, Bade Iriabho piše:
 Thanks guys, Paul you make very good points. Noted...

 1. You have a server in a secured server room on a rack (is there any
 need
 and advantage to having system encryption in this particular case)

 Only if there's requirements from above... or if you're going to be
 pulling drives as backups, say, and taking them out of there.

 Very interesting, Your response just gave me another question :) If I have
 system encrytion on a server with RAID (dont think the type matters, but
 lets say RAID 5) and hot-swappable drives and one drive fails. What happens
 when you replace the drive, how do you handle rebuilding the data on the new
 drive with system encryption? are there online resources/links for handling
 rebuilding the data on new drives when the server/PC already had system
 encryption. Or are my questions/thoughts on this way of course.

As I understand it, RAID is lower lever then partition, and encryption 
is partition based, so RAID will not care what you have above, it will 
do it's job regardless.

-- 

Ljubomir Ljubojevic
(Love is in the Air)
PL Computers
Serbia, Europe

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trusty Spiderman...
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Re: [CentOS] Deciding when to do system encryption

2011-10-11 Thread m . roth
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Vreme: 10/11/2011 04:43 PM, Bade Iriabho piše:
 Thanks guys, Paul you make very good points. Noted...

 1. You have a server in a secured server room on a rack (is there
   any need and advantage to having system encryption in this
   particular case)

 Only if there's requirements from above... or if you're going to be
 pulling drives as backups, say, and taking them out of there.
snip
Oh, another requirement: PCI DSS (it's been two and a half years since I
worked for a co that does managed security and was also a root CA). Look
at https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/index.php, and the docs. For any
credit card information, ALL DATA between two systems *must* be encrypted,
and positively, if you need to pull a drive to replace it, you're going to
have to sanitize it, since someone could take it apart and rebuild it, and
get data off it.

So, if credit card transactions might be on it - any kind of PII (personal
identifying information) or HIPAA (for those in the US, medical data) -
you need encryption.

Or if you don't want anyone seeing your pr0n collection g

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[CentOS] Deciding when to do system encryption

2011-10-10 Thread Bade Iriabho
Hello All,

I have read that system encryption slows a computer down. However, I am more
interested in when to use it. Consider the following scenarios:

1. You have a server in a secured server room on a rack (is there any need
and advantage to having system encryption in this particular case)
2. you have a server sitting in an office that is accessible by everyone
2. You have a desktop
3. You have a laptop

So my questions are: What situations/scenarios do you consider before
implementing system encryption? I guess at the end of the day, I am trying
to figure out the best practices.

Regards,
B.I.
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Re: [CentOS] Deciding when to do system encryption

2011-10-10 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011, Bade Iriabho wrote:

 Hello All,

 I have read that system encryption slows a computer down. However, I am more
 interested in when to use it. Consider the following scenarios:

 1. You have a server in a secured server room on a rack (is there any need
 and advantage to having system encryption in this particular case)
 2. you have a server sitting in an office that is accessible by everyone
 2. You have a desktop
 3. You have a laptop

 So my questions are: What situations/scenarios do you consider 
 before implementing system encryption? I guess at the end of the 
 day, I am trying to figure out the best practices.

The real question is your risk. The situation or scenario is at best a 
mitigation of the risk.

That is, how valuable to is the data on any of those machines? How 
much of your time, money, and/or reputation be consumed if your data 
are stolen? What will the impact on you (and your customers) be if 
your data's confidentiality, integrity, or availability is threatened? 
Who are the threats: employees? random visitors to your office? 
thieves? business competitors?

Answer those questions first.

At that point, you're in a better position to assess the 
vulnerabilities of each platform. You might decide that a locked room 
in a locked building (e.g., a server room) is sufficient mitigation 
against your threats -- or not.

I have a hard time imagining a situation where data on a business 
laptop should NOT be encrypted, but it may be that a good backup is 
all you need.

-- 
Paul Heinlein  heinl...@madboa.com  http://www.madboa.com/
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Re: [CentOS] Deciding when to do system encryption

2011-10-10 Thread Lucian
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Bade Iriabho eb...@mathbiol.org wrote:
 Hello All,

 I have read that system encryption slows a computer down. However, I am more
 interested in when to use it. Consider the following scenarios:

 1. You have a server in a secured server room on a rack (is there any need
 and advantage to having system encryption in this particular case)
 2. you have a server sitting in an office that is accessible by everyone
 2. You have a desktop
 3. You have a laptop

 So my questions are: What situations/scenarios do you consider before
 implementing system encryption? I guess at the end of the day, I am trying
 to figure out the best practices.


I always encrypt the hdd of my laptops, I don't notice much overhead;
on servers I encrypt partitions with very sensitive information.
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