[CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

 So I just finished doing a fresh install of CentOS 6.3.  The 
machine has three ethernet ports in it: one on the motherboard (VIA 
Rhine), and two add-on cards, an Intel Pro100 and an old SMC1255TX. When 
CentOS comes up, this is what I see in the dmesg output:

 # dmesg | grep eth
 e100 :00:08.0: eth0: addr 0xf6043000, irq 16, MAC addr 
00:02:b3:be:02:87
 eth1: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at MMIO 0xf604, 00:4c:69:6e:75:79, 
IRQ 17.
 udev: renamed network interface eth0 to rename2
 udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth3
 udev: renamed network interface rename2 to eth1
 eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0xf6042000, 00:16:17:17:22:8e, IRQ 23.
 eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x786d advertising 05e1 
Link 45e1.
 eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
 eth0: no IPv6 routers present

 So, according to the musical playing going on there, the result is:

 eth0: VIA Rhine
 eth1: IntelPro 100 (originally comes up as eth0 but gets renamed eth1)
 eth3: SMC1255TX (originally comes up as eth1 but gets renamed eth3)

 Here's my issue:

 In udev rules (/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules I see:

 # PCI device 0x1113:0x1216 (tulip)
 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, 
ATTR{address}==00:4c:68:6e:ff:ff, ATTR{type}==1,
 KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth2

 # PCI device 0x8086:0x1229 (e100)
 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, 
ATTR{address}==00:02:b3:be:02:87, ATTR{type}==1,
 KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth1

 # PCI device 0x1106:0x3065 (via-rhine)
 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, 
ATTR{address}==00:16:17:17:22:8e, ATTR{type}==1,
 KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth0

 # PCI device 0x1113:0x1216 (tulip)
 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, 
ATTR{address}==00:4c:69:6e:75:79, ATTR{type}==1,
 KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth3


 Question is, where did the first tulip interface come from? That's 
not any of the interfaces on the machine, it doesn't match the MAC 
address of any of the interfaces, so where'd it come from?

 Furthermore, when I look in 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth2, the HWADDR there is the same 
as the first interface listed above.  But again, it's not in dmesg's 
output.  As far as I can tell, it's a ghost interface ...

 What gives, and how can I get rid of it so that the proper 
interface gets the eth2 spot?

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
By the way, I know that the tulip drives is what is driving the SMC1255TX
... in case anyone was wondering if that's what I'm asking.  It's not.
It's the hardware MAC address that's puzzling to me as it doesn't exist on
this machine anywhere.  At least not that I can tell.


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Ashley M. Kirchner ash...@pcraft.comwrote:


  So I just finished doing a fresh install of CentOS 6.3.  The
 machine has three ethernet ports in it: one on the motherboard (VIA
 Rhine), and two add-on cards, an Intel Pro100 and an old SMC1255TX. When
 CentOS comes up, this is what I see in the dmesg output:

  # dmesg | grep eth
  e100 :00:08.0: eth0: addr 0xf6043000, irq 16, MAC addr
 00:02:b3:be:02:87
  eth1: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at MMIO 0xf604, 00:4c:69:6e:75:79,
 IRQ 17.
  udev: renamed network interface eth0 to rename2
  udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth3
  udev: renamed network interface rename2 to eth1
  eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0xf6042000, 00:16:17:17:22:8e, IRQ 23.
  eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x786d advertising 05e1
 Link 45e1.
  eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
  eth0: no IPv6 routers present

  So, according to the musical playing going on there, the result is:

  eth0: VIA Rhine
  eth1: IntelPro 100 (originally comes up as eth0 but gets renamed eth1)
  eth3: SMC1255TX (originally comes up as eth1 but gets renamed eth3)

  Here's my issue:

  In udev rules (/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules I see:

  # PCI device 0x1113:0x1216 (tulip)
  SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
 ATTR{address}==00:4c:68:6e:ff:ff, ATTR{type}==1,
  KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth2

  # PCI device 0x8086:0x1229 (e100)
  SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
 ATTR{address}==00:02:b3:be:02:87, ATTR{type}==1,
  KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth1

  # PCI device 0x1106:0x3065 (via-rhine)
  SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
 ATTR{address}==00:16:17:17:22:8e, ATTR{type}==1,
  KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth0

  # PCI device 0x1113:0x1216 (tulip)
  SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
 ATTR{address}==00:4c:69:6e:75:79, ATTR{type}==1,
  KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth3


  Question is, where did the first tulip interface come from? That's
 not any of the interfaces on the machine, it doesn't match the MAC
 address of any of the interfaces, so where'd it come from?

  Furthermore, when I look in
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth2, the HWADDR there is the same
 as the first interface listed above.  But again, it's not in dmesg's
 output.  As far as I can tell, it's a ghost interface ...

  What gives, and how can I get rid of it so that the proper
 interface gets the eth2 spot?

  A
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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:55:05 -0700
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

 It's the hardware MAC address that's puzzling to me as it doesn't exist on
 this machine anywhere.  At least not that I can tell.

lshw

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 12/28/2012 01:05 PM, Frank Cox wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:55:05 -0700
 Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

 It's the hardware MAC address that's puzzling to me as it doesn't exist on
 this machine anywhere.  At least not that I can tell.

 lshw


There is no lshw on my CentOS 6.3 system and it is not found in the 
add/remove software tool.  Where did you find lshw?

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:16:10 -0500
Mark LaPierre wrote:

 There is no lshw on my CentOS 6.3 system and it is not found in the 
 add/remove software tool.  Where did you find lshw?

rpmforge

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Yeah, rpmforge or repoforge.  But, I'm looking for what exactly?  It only
lists a single ethernet port (the built-in one).

lspci lists the other two, and all of those MAC addresses are correct.  The
one that doesn't match ONLY appears in the udev rules file.


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.comwrote:

 On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:16:10 -0500
 Mark LaPierre wrote:

  There is no lshw on my CentOS 6.3 system and it is not found in the
  add/remove software tool.  Where did you find lshw?

 rpmforge

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:21:22 -0700
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

 Yeah, rpmforge or repoforge.  But, I'm looking for what exactly?  It only
 lists a single ethernet port (the built-in one).

That's what you're looking for.  Now you know that the mysterious device isn't
something that you didn't know aobout on the motherboard.

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
But it is.  The MAC address on the motherboard port is NOT the same as the
mystery device.  And it DOES match one of the entries in udev's rules, and
it's operational right now as eth0 (as it should be.)  However, the mystery
MAC address that's listed in udev's rules matches nothing in either lshw or
lspci.

Remember, udev's rules lists FOUR devices.  There are only THREE.


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.comwrote:

 On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:21:22 -0700
 Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

  Yeah, rpmforge or repoforge.  But, I'm looking for what exactly?  It only
  lists a single ethernet port (the built-in one).

 That's what you're looking for.  Now you know that the mysterious device
 isn't
 something that you didn't know aobout on the motherboard.

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Dale Dellutri
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner ash...@pcraft.com wrote:
 But it is.  The MAC address on the motherboard port is NOT the same as the
 mystery device.  And it DOES match one of the entries in udev's rules, and
 it's operational right now as eth0 (as it should be.)  However, the mystery
 MAC address that's listed in udev's rules matches nothing in either lshw or
 lspci.

 Remember, udev's rules lists FOUR devices.  There are only THREE.

What does the BIOS say about ethernet devices?

Does the motherboard have a management interface card with its own
ethernet port, perhaps potential but not actually installed?

Is there a fiber-optics connector on the system which is coming up as
an ethernet port?

Is one of the cards old enough to still have a separate BNC connector?

 On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Frank Cox 
 thea...@melvilletheatre.comwrote:

 On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:21:22 -0700
 Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

  Yeah, rpmforge or repoforge.  But, I'm looking for what exactly?  It only
  lists a single ethernet port (the built-in one).

 That's what you're looking for.  Now you know that the mysterious device
 isn't
 something that you didn't know aobout on the motherboard.

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Rob Townley
 Remember, udev's rules lists FOUR devices.  There are only THREE.


 What does the BIOS say about ethernet devices?

 Does the motherboard have a management interface card with its own
 ethernet port, perhaps potential but not actually installed?



An IPMI may have its own MAC, but share a physical port with the main NIC.
If you are using this as a firewall, make sure to not have an IPMI port
facing the internet.

You may have a MAC address in one of your ifcfg-eth* files that does not
_exactly_ match the hardware.  Sometimes, it can be case-sensitive.
pushd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/
mkdir BACKUP
mv ifcfg-eth* ./BACKUP/
I would take out all the add-on cards and see if this extra MAC stays
around.
Put the other cards in one-by-one till found.
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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
BIOS lists one device.

Motherboard does not have an interface card.

No fiber optic.

No BNC connector.

I commented out the ghost MAC address from udev's rules file and
rebooted.  It has not reappeared.  However, the problem I have is that the
ethernet ports don't stick in the same order.  They came up in a completely
different order.  I now have eth0, 1, and 4.  What was eth0 prior to the
reboot is now ... uh ... 'rename4' according to the udev messages:

udev: renamed network interface eth0 to rename2  (this is the Intel Pro 100
add-in card [e100 module])
udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth0  (this is the SMC1255TX add-in
card [tulip module])
udev: renamed network interface rename2 to eth1
udev: renamed network interface eth2 to rename4  (this is the motherboard
ethernet port [VIA Rhine module])

What gives??  How can I tell it to either stop mucking with them, or to do
it in the order I want it to:
on-board: eth0
Intel: eth1
SMC: eth2



On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Dale Dellutri daledellu...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner ash...@pcraft.com
 wrote:
  But it is.  The MAC address on the motherboard port is NOT the same as
 the
  mystery device.  And it DOES match one of the entries in udev's rules,
 and
  it's operational right now as eth0 (as it should be.)  However, the
 mystery
  MAC address that's listed in udev's rules matches nothing in either lshw
 or
  lspci.
 
  Remember, udev's rules lists FOUR devices.  There are only THREE.

 What does the BIOS say about ethernet devices?

 Does the motherboard have a management interface card with its own
 ethernet port, perhaps potential but not actually installed?

 Is there a fiber-optics connector on the system which is coming up as
 an ethernet port?

 Is one of the cards old enough to still have a separate BNC connector?

  On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com
 wrote:
 
  On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:21:22 -0700
  Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
 
   Yeah, rpmforge or repoforge.  But, I'm looking for what exactly?  It
 only
   lists a single ethernet port (the built-in one).
 
  That's what you're looking for.  Now you know that the mysterious device
  isn't
  something that you didn't know aobout on the motherboard.
 
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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet puzzle

2012-12-28 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
I decided to completely delete everything out of udev's rules file and
restart the system.  This brought up the devices in whatever discovered
order.  Then I modified the rules file to set them in the correct order
(simply by changing the NAME= key) and rebooted again.

Now they're all coming up in the order in which I set them.  The mystery
MAC hasn't reappeared either.  It seems to only be present immediately
after the install.  I've now rebooted three times to make sure the
definitions stick.  So far so good.

While this has solved the problem, it still doesn't explain the mystery
MAC.  but, I'm willing to concede that we will never find out where it came
from.


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner ash...@pcraft.comwrote:

 BIOS lists one device.

 Motherboard does not have an interface card.

 No fiber optic.

 No BNC connector.

 I commented out the ghost MAC address from udev's rules file and
 rebooted.  It has not reappeared.  However, the problem I have is that the
 ethernet ports don't stick in the same order.  They came up in a completely
 different order.  I now have eth0, 1, and 4.  What was eth0 prior to the
 reboot is now ... uh ... 'rename4' according to the udev messages:

 udev: renamed network interface eth0 to rename2  (this is the Intel Pro
 100 add-in card [e100 module])
 udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth0  (this is the SMC1255TX
 add-in card [tulip module])
 udev: renamed network interface rename2 to eth1
 udev: renamed network interface eth2 to rename4  (this is the motherboard
 ethernet port [VIA Rhine module])

 What gives??  How can I tell it to either stop mucking with them, or to do
 it in the order I want it to:
 on-board: eth0
 Intel: eth1
 SMC: eth2



 On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Dale Dellutri daledellu...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Ashley M. Kirchner ash...@pcraft.com
 wrote:
  But it is.  The MAC address on the motherboard port is NOT the same as
 the
  mystery device.  And it DOES match one of the entries in udev's rules,
 and
  it's operational right now as eth0 (as it should be.)  However, the
 mystery
  MAC address that's listed in udev's rules matches nothing in either
 lshw or
  lspci.
 
  Remember, udev's rules lists FOUR devices.  There are only THREE.

 What does the BIOS say about ethernet devices?

 Does the motherboard have a management interface card with its own
 ethernet port, perhaps potential but not actually installed?

 Is there a fiber-optics connector on the system which is coming up as
 an ethernet port?

 Is one of the cards old enough to still have a separate BNC connector?

  On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Frank Cox 
 thea...@melvilletheatre.comwrote:
 
  On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:21:22 -0700
  Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
 
   Yeah, rpmforge or repoforge.  But, I'm looking for what exactly?  It
 only
   lists a single ethernet port (the built-in one).
 
  That's what you're looking for.  Now you know that the mysterious
 device
  isn't
  something that you didn't know aobout on the motherboard.
 
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