[CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread Nicolas Ross
Hi !

I think one of my machine got hacked, but I can figure out from where...

I found some suspicious file in /bin and /usr/bin directories that are owned 
by user id 122, where this machine doesn't a userid 122.

So, does anyone hav a centos 3.9 install arround that can send me the info 
about (filesize, md5, modification date) these file :

/bin :
ls
netstat
ps

/usr/bin/
dir
find
md5sum
pstree
slocate
tee
top

What tiped me off, I was sudoing to another user, and swas this message : 
Unknown HZ value! (92) Assume 100.

Thanks

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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread m . roth
Nicolas Ross wrote:
 Hi !

 I think one of my machine got hacked, but I can figure out from where...

 I found some suspicious file in /bin and /usr/bin directories that are
 owned
 by user id 122, where this machine doesn't a userid 122.

 So, does anyone hav a centos 3.9 install arround that can send me the info

One of our investigators has collaborators around the world, on old
machines, so we have this:
2.4.21-63.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Nov 3 18:48:49 EST 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
Note they may be different on your machine.
 about (filesize, md5, modification date) these file :

 /bin :
 ls
 netstat
 ps

-rwxr-xr-x1 root root67700 Jun 12  2007 /bin/ls
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root83800 May 22  2007 /bin/netstat
-r-xr-xr-x1 root root64076 Apr 19  2006 /bin/ps

e102f6c3dde4043908ed001e1587b1d2  /bin/ls
bdfc76a24f59cc6cd8a70f771cc5cda4  /bin/netstat
fc3369b3564e00f877387a13bf3f467a  /bin/ps


 /usr/bin/
 dir
 find
 md5sum
 pstree
 slocate
 tee
 top

-rwxr-xr-x1 root root67700 Jun 12  2007 /usr/bin/dir
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root51028 Jan 11  2006 /usr/bin/find
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root29184 Jun 12  2007 /usr/bin/md5sum
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root14048 Apr 28  2006 /usr/bin/pstree

0df0aafb355df40b1137355dd354f172  /usr/bin/dir
2c5f4e789da1ad8d19ce5c68ecf8261d  /usr/bin/find
03174f884e7fc5fbc215780819679f6e  /usr/bin/md5sum
224f527255b2c8deb44f692eaadc873d  /usr/bin/pstree
0cee754c3981ba5f527bedc9a8cbea2a  /usr/bin/slocate
4ed536310a845f274f6a1611773789d8  /usr/bin/tee
6b42bf37296861c657fcf6b8dba8f675  /usr/bin/top

snip

Hope this helps.

 mark

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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread Don Krause

On Feb 7, 2011, at 10:14 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 Nicolas Ross wrote:
 Hi !
 
 I think one of my machine got hacked, but I can figure out from where...
 
 I found some suspicious file in /bin and /usr/bin directories that are
 owned
 by user id 122, where this machine doesn't a userid 122.
 
 So, does anyone hav a centos 3.9 install arround that can send me the info
 
 One of our investigators has collaborators around the world, on old
 machines, so we have this:
 2.4.21-63.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Nov 3 18:48:49 EST 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
 Note they may be different on your machine.
 about (filesize, md5, modification date) these file :
 
 /bin :
 ls
 netstat
 ps
 
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root67700 Jun 12  2007 /bin/ls
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root83800 May 22  2007 /bin/netstat
 -r-xr-xr-x1 root root64076 Apr 19  2006 /bin/ps
 
 e102f6c3dde4043908ed001e1587b1d2  /bin/ls
 bdfc76a24f59cc6cd8a70f771cc5cda4  /bin/netstat
 fc3369b3564e00f877387a13bf3f467a  /bin/ps
 
 
 /usr/bin/
 dir
 find
 md5sum
 pstree
 slocate
 tee
 top
 
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root67700 Jun 12  2007 /usr/bin/dir
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root51028 Jan 11  2006 /usr/bin/find
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root29184 Jun 12  2007 /usr/bin/md5sum
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root14048 Apr 28  2006 /usr/bin/pstree
 
 0df0aafb355df40b1137355dd354f172  /usr/bin/dir
 2c5f4e789da1ad8d19ce5c68ecf8261d  /usr/bin/find
 03174f884e7fc5fbc215780819679f6e  /usr/bin/md5sum
 224f527255b2c8deb44f692eaadc873d  /usr/bin/pstree
 0cee754c3981ba5f527bedc9a8cbea2a  /usr/bin/slocate
 4ed536310a845f274f6a1611773789d8  /usr/bin/tee
 6b42bf37296861c657fcf6b8dba8f675  /usr/bin/top
 
 snip
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 mark


Our internal, not internet connected fully patch Cent 3 box exactly matches 
what Mark posted.

[dkrause@rigil bin]$ ls -lat ls netstat ps
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root67700 Jun 12  2007 ls
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root83800 May 22  2007 netstat
-r-xr-xr-x1 root root64076 Apr 19  2006 ps

e102f6c3dde4043908ed001e1587b1d2  /bin/ls
bdfc76a24f59cc6cd8a70f771cc5cda4  /bin/netstat
fc3369b3564e00f877387a13bf3f467a  /bin/ps

[dkrause@rigil bin]$ ls -la dir find md5sum pstree slocate tee top
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root67700 Jun 12  2007 dir
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root51028 Jan 11  2006 find
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root29184 Jun 12  2007 md5sum
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root14048 Apr 28  2006 pstree
-rwxr-sr-x1 root slocate 32480 Sep 28  2005 slocate
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root12220 Jun 12  2007 tee
-r-xr-xr-x1 root root48052 Apr 19  2006 top

0df0aafb355df40b1137355dd354f172  dir
2c5f4e789da1ad8d19ce5c68ecf8261d  find
03174f884e7fc5fbc215780819679f6e  md5sum
224f527255b2c8deb44f692eaadc873d  pstree
0cee754c3981ba5f527bedc9a8cbea2a  slocate
4ed536310a845f274f6a1611773789d8  tee
6b42bf37296861c657fcf6b8dba8f675  top


Good luck!
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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread Nicolas Ross
 I think one of my machine got hacked, but I can figure out from where...

 I found some suspicious file in /bin and /usr/bin directories that are
 owned
 by user id 122, where this machine doesn't a userid 122.

 So, does anyone hav a centos 3.9 install arround that can send me the 
 info

 One of our investigators has collaborators around the world, on old
 machines, so we have this:
 2.4.21-63.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Nov 3 18:48:49 EST 2009 i686 athlon i386 
 GNU/Linux
 Note they may be different on your machine.
 about (filesize, md5, modification date) these file :

 /bin :
 ls
 netstat
 ps

 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root67700 Jun 12  2007 /bin/ls
 -rwxr-xr-x1 root root83800 May 22  2007 /bin/netstat
 -r-xr-xr-x1 root root64076 Apr 19  2006 /bin/ps

 e102f6c3dde4043908ed001e1587b1d2  /bin/ls
 bdfc76a24f59cc6cd8a70f771cc5cda4  /bin/netstat
 fc3369b3564e00f877387a13bf3f467a  /bin/ps

Dammm...

mds5um has been tempered with also... It return those expected values, but a 
md5sum programm I took elsewhere was returning another value...

Dammm... 

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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 02/07/11 10:06 AM, Nicolas Ross wrote:
 So, does anyone hav a centos 3.9 install arround that can send me the info
 about (filesize, md5, modification date) these file :


is that a 3.9 install that never got any updates afterwards? is that 
x86_64 or i686?etc etc.

that data is pretty worthless out of context.


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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 02/07/11 10:06 AM, Nicolas Ross wrote:
 I found some suspicious file in /bin and /usr/bin directories that are owned
 by user id 122, where this machine doesn't a userid 122.


oh.  get and run rkhunter.  preferably do it on read only media via 
another system.


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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/07/11 10:06 AM, Nicolas Ross wrote:
 So, does anyone hav a centos 3.9 install arround that can send me the
 info about (filesize, md5, modification date) these file :

 is that a 3.9 install that never got any updates afterwards? is that
 x86_64 or i686?etc etc.

 that data is pretty worthless out of context.

Good question. The box I got my data from had all updates applied until it
went out of support late last fall.

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread cornel panceac
2011/2/7 Nicolas Ross rossnick-li...@cybercat.ca

 mds5um has been tempered with also... It return those expected values, but
 a
 md5sum programm I took elsewhere was returning another value...


not all md5sum programs are the same, check several programs before deciding
what's next.
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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread Tru Huynh
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 01:06:56PM -0500, Nicolas Ross wrote:
 Hi !
 
 I think one of my machine got hacked, but I can figure out from where...
 
 I found some suspicious file in /bin and /usr/bin directories that are owned 
 by user id 122, where this machine doesn't a userid 122.
 
 So, does anyone hav a centos 3.9 install arround that can send me the info 
 about (filesize, md5, modification date) these file :

3.9 is still available on all the mirrors, you can rpm2cpio and compare
(watch out for prelinked files) or try the rpm --verify flag (if the
rpm database is not modified).

Tru
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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread Nicolas Ross
 On 02/07/11 10:06 AM, Nicolas Ross wrote:
 I found some suspicious file in /bin and /usr/bin directories that are 
 owned
 by user id 122, where this machine doesn't a userid 122.


 oh.  get and run rkhunter.  preferably do it on read only media via
 another system.

Ok, good tool, and good call...

I've took the chance to run it from that machine. So, it found some 
suspicious files and some parts of some rootkits, SHV5 namely.

So, that machine was scheduled to be replaced soon, so It'll be sooner than 
later...

In the mean time, I'll check what I can salvage from the 3.9 repos.

Thanks, 

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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread Benjamin Smith
On Monday, February 07, 2011 10:21:18 am Nicolas Ross wrote:
 mds5um has been tempered with also... It return those expected values, but
 a  md5sum programm I took elsewhere was returning another value...

Once you've been hacked, you can't trust the core utilities (ls / 
md5sum/cd/etc) You can't trust the kernel interfaces that these core utilities 
use, nor can you reliably remove the kernel modules used to interfere with 
normal operations, since the interfaces within the kernel may themselves be 
cloaking the hackinstall kernel modules! 

The only way to deal with this scenario and get anything resembling a correct 
answer is to mount the drive in userspace, noexec on another, trusted system. 
If downtime is a concern you *might* be able to use dd and copy the disk 
partition to another drive in the middle of the night and then check out the 
drive offline - that would probably work fine. 

But realize that until you do this, you can have no trust whatsoever in that 
computer, change passwords, delete/change private SSH keys, etc. and anything 
you do from here on out will be forensics to: 

A) Determine just how far they got in (did they get access to other systems?) 

B) Figure out how to best transfer services to a new, updated system and 
update security so that the bad guys can't just walk back in with prior 
knowledge. 

BTW: you should basically NEVER run an EOL'd system, regardless of the O/S. An 
unpatched server is a pretty much a guaranteed hack incident waiting to 
happen. 

Good luck! 

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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread JohnS

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 15:27 -0800, Benjamin Smith wrote:

 A) Determine just how far they got in (did they get access to other systems?) 

All the bad stuff only resided in Volatile Memory and you Erased it when
you shut down the machine and forgot to copy the Memory.

:-)

John

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Re: [CentOS] Is there a Centos 3 around ?

2011-02-07 Thread allan
Niccolas,
I agree with John. rkhunter is your friend!
I set up all my servers to run nightly with weekly updates.
Peace,
Allan

John R Pierce wrote:
 On 02/07/11 10:06 AM, Nicolas Ross wrote:
 I found some suspicious file in /bin and /usr/bin directories that are owned
 by user id 122, where this machine doesn't a userid 122.

 
 oh.  get and run rkhunter.  preferably do it on read only media via 
 another system.
 
 
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