[CentOS] LVM question during an upgrade

2012-11-07 Thread m . roth
Well, I'm upgrading a server from 5.8 to 6.3. Problem: someone built the
system with LVM. I see some few differences between /etc/lvm/lvm.conf and
the one from 6.3, and I'm trying to figure out what I can leave alone, and
what I need to set to that from the old version. For example, the old one
has preferred_names = [], and the new has a list.

Anyone have thoughts about whether I can just copy over the old? I do know
there are some new parameters (thin_*): do I need to add them?

  mark

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Re: [CentOS] LVM question

2012-01-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/16/2012 07:38 PM, Muhammad Panji wrote:
> even if you need more swap you can make (additional) swap file.

Swap files are just *awful*.  Performance when swapping is bad enough, 
but going through the filesystem layer means updating atime and mtime on 
reads and writes.  Things get real ugly with swap files.
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Re: [CentOS] LVM question

2012-01-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/16/2012 07:26 PM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote:
> It is to my understanding that the /boot partition should never be
> placed on LVM and should be a physical partition on the hard drives
> (or on top of a RAID array). Is this an accurate statement?

Not necessarily "never" but not if your boot loader is GRUB 0.95.

/boot should be on a regular partition or an MD RAID1 partition on 
storage that is available to the BIOS (single drive or RAID volume on a 
controller with a boot ROM).
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Re: [CentOS] LVM question

2012-01-17 Thread Aslan Carlos
On 01/17/2012 11:40 AM, Steve Thompson wrote:
> on LVM is quite safe as long as it is below 2GB

It's not possible put /boot on LVM when you working with GRUB.

Grub works with 2 stages:

1º - MBR ( Master Boot Record ) , with instruction to access the
partition where store kernel , initrd and grub.conf
2º - Reads the partition indicated on 1º stage (MBR), to read grub.conf
with all instruction to boot the OS.

Now the question why we cannot use /boot on LVM. LVM is a Logical Volume
Manager, GRUB no have support yet to read LVM. You'll see this LVM
structure after the kernel boot and load the LVM modules.

You could see what filesystems are support by Grub access your /boot
after installation, looking into /boot/grub.
 
Only Grub version 2 could access partitions /boot with LVM. ( I find
this information now )


-

You'll not have problem using SWAP on LVM, but we need think about all
situations.
If you running some software that use too much SWAP area, recommend you
put your SWAP on the firsts primary partition on your disk, because
there are area more fast I/O. If you want know more about that looking
for about ZCAV. (This is applicable to electrical mechanical disk, no
Solid State Disks,SSD).
Let's think you need more SWAP space, but your using SWAP on LVM, you
could create a new LVM and add to SWAP area.
swapon -s (you could see information how many swap partition or files
you have and how much is the use of them)



best regards,
--aslan
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Re: [CentOS] LVM question

2012-01-17 Thread Steve Thompson
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Jonathan Vomacka wrote:

> It is to my understanding that the /boot partition should never be
> placed on LVM and should be a physical partition on the hard drives
> (or on top of a RAID array). Is this an accurate statement?

/boot on LVM is quite safe as long as it is below 2GB. Hopefully it is.

> Also please advise if the SWAP filesystem is safe to be placed under
> LVM, or if this should be a hard partition / hard limit as well.

Swap on LVM is quite safe; in fact it is desired.

-s
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Re: [CentOS] LVM question

2012-01-16 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Muhammad Panji  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote:
>
>> CentOS Community,
>>
>> It is to my understanding that the /boot partition should never be
>> placed on LVM and should be a physical partition on the hard drives
>> (or on top of a RAID array). Is this an accurate statement?
>>
> Yup. Because GRUB < 1.95 cannot read it
> http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-lvm-diskdruid-manual.html
>
>
>>
>> Also please advise if the SWAP filesystem is safe to be placed under
>> LVM, or if this should be a hard partition / hard limit as well. I am
>> unsure if boot issues or any filesystem issues would be caused by
>> placing them on LVM. Please educate me if possible.
>>
> The default partition from anaconda put the swap on LVM so I think that
> wouldn't be a problem.
> even if you need more swap you can make (additional) swap file.
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Okay, So I guess it is safe to say that SWAP can be placed on LVM but
/boot can not? /boot should be made with EXT3 i assume, correct?
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Re: [CentOS] LVM question

2012-01-16 Thread Muhammad Panji
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Jonathan Vomacka wrote:

> CentOS Community,
>
> It is to my understanding that the /boot partition should never be
> placed on LVM and should be a physical partition on the hard drives
> (or on top of a RAID array). Is this an accurate statement?
>
Yup. Because GRUB < 1.95 cannot read it
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-lvm-diskdruid-manual.html


>
> Also please advise if the SWAP filesystem is safe to be placed under
> LVM, or if this should be a hard partition / hard limit as well. I am
> unsure if boot issues or any filesystem issues would be caused by
> placing them on LVM. Please educate me if possible.
>
The default partition from anaconda put the swap on LVM so I think that
wouldn't be a problem.
even if you need more swap you can make (additional) swap file.
Regards,






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[CentOS] LVM question

2012-01-16 Thread Jonathan Vomacka
CentOS Community,

It is to my understanding that the /boot partition should never be
placed on LVM and should be a physical partition on the hard drives
(or on top of a RAID array). Is this an accurate statement?

Also please advise if the SWAP filesystem is safe to be placed under
LVM, or if this should be a hard partition / hard limit as well. I am
unsure if boot issues or any filesystem issues would be caused by
placing them on LVM. Please educate me if possible.

Thanks in advance for the information!
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