Re: [CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
Michael Peterson wrote on Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:24:09 -0500: > I did not guess. When you replied the first time, you *did* guess. It is quite obvious that you do not need to remove what you suggested. > I have been working with Apache for over 8 years I can top that easily. So, what? > After such a blatant insult I should think about dropping this list. Then please do. I didn't insult you in any way. It's you who's suddenly begun to flame. I haven't seen such a reaction for a long time on this list. > In your first sentence you say "You can do that, it depends on your > configuration. ". Then please read what I wrote in that sentence instead of flaming. You cannot just say "I do not use it" and present this as the solution. It depends on the configuration and for almost all configurations it will not work! Especially not for the one Mike is using. > This example is straight from the documentation listed above. Yeah. And, amazingly, wow, it has ServerName in it. Something that you suggested to omit. And it's got the port as well, something else you suggested to omit. Hm. Should I follow the documentation or should I follow your advice? > There is no ServerAlias for the second VirtualHost entry. I suggest you read again what I wrote instead of flaming. Maybe then you understand what I wrote. I figure that you may have confused ServerName and ServerAlias. Maybe you meant to say "I run a Virtual Host entry without a *ServerAlias* directive". Just that we weren't talking about ServerAlias. Even if we had, that's not an excuse for such a flame. > I hope this solves the NameVIrtualHost issue for the time being at least. It definitely does not as you are confusing people as best as you can with your writings. > I only use ServerName and have not tried ServerAlias. You didn't ever use that in "over 8 years" of experience with Apache? Don't answer, this was a rhetorical question. No, I won't answer any more of your flames. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Michael Peterson wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:03:13 -0500 (CDT): I run a Virtual Host entry without a ServerName directive and have been through several releases of CentOS and Apache and all works fine for me. You can do that, it depends on your configuration. A standard name-based virtual host configuration will not work without a ServerName directive, because it's that directive (and the ServerAlias ones) that has to match what the client sends as Host header. Have a look at the documentation instead of guessing ;-) Kai I did not guess. I have always consulted the documentation first. I have my Apache configuration file setup according the currently available Apache documentation. Pardon my lack of sleep after consulting my configuration file again. I do not use ServerAlias at all. I do use ServerName for all of my VirtualHost entries however. Please do not assume people guess just because they do not provide a link to back up the information they provide. If it is not an answer from experience only, I take it that maybe to please those that need it I should post a link for reference in the future. I am doing tasks with CentOS that are however undocumented other than by me at the present time in some cases however. I have been working with Apache for over 8 years and do not belong to just this list thank you. I consult any available manuals and online documentation first before asking a list anything. After such a blatant insult I should think about dropping this list. But I think other than your lack of disregard for my try at providing assistance to the list. I have something to offer even if no one else is doing the things I am doing with CentOS at the present time. I think for the time being other than a post I am working on to answer a post I made earlier this month that has went unanswered so far that I will just watch and learn and try to keep my fingers quiet as much as possible as far as this list is concerned. In your first sentence you say "You can do that, it depends on your configuration. ". Did you consult the documentation or are you asking me to do it for you. Here is one of the sources for the Name Virtual Host issue resolutions: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/name-based.html This example is straight from the documentation listed above. " |NameVirtualHost *:80 ServerName www.domain.tld ServerAlias domain.tld *.domain.tld DocumentRoot /www/domain ServerName www.otherdomain.tld DocumentRoot /www/otherdomain " There is no ServerAlias for the second VirtualHost entry. This is per the Apache standard straight from the available current online documentation. I only use ServerName and have not tried ServerAlias. I hope this solves the NameVIrtualHost issue for the time being at least. | Michael ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
Michael Peterson wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:03:13 -0500 (CDT): > I run a Virtual Host entry without a ServerName directive and have been > through several releases of CentOS and Apache and all works fine for me. You can do that, it depends on your configuration. A standard name-based virtual host configuration will not work without a ServerName directive, because it's that directive (and the ServerAlias ones) that has to match what the client sends as Host header. Have a look at the documentation instead of guessing ;-) Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
Michael Peterson a écrit : >> Michael Peterson wrote on Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:09:54 -0500: >> >> >>> You need to remove the :80 in the VirtualHost declarations that contains >>> Servername entries. >>> No, the ':80' is ok. >> No, that's perfectly ok and recommended. His problem was that he was using >> a virtual host without a ServerName directive. >> > I run a Virtual Host entry without a ServerName directive and have been > through several releases of CentOS and Apache and all works fine for me. > Are you talking about IP based or name based virtual hosts (single IP, multiple vhosts)? if using name based vhosts, Apache needs to know which config to server for which vhost. In the case of multiple names for a single IP, Servername is here for that. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
> Michael Peterson wrote on Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:09:54 -0500: > >> You need to remove the :80 in the VirtualHost declarations that contains >> Servername entries. > > No, that's perfectly ok and recommended. His problem was that he was using > a virtual host without a ServerName directive. > > Kai > > -- > Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany > Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com > > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > I run a Virtual Host entry without a ServerName directive and have been through several releases of CentOS and Apache and all works fine for me. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
Michael Peterson wrote on Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:09:54 -0500: > You need to remove the :80 in the VirtualHost declarations that contains > Servername entries. No, that's perfectly ok and recommended. His problem was that he was using a virtual host without a ServerName directive. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:14:10 + (UTC): > I am therefore > left with the need to remove the VirtualHost that > has no ServerName. I can access the site with an > IP address, which, I think, this is meant to prevent. I still don't see the purpose of that virtual host. If it is for "catching" IP only accesses there are several methods to do this. Look for "default virtualhost" in the apache documentation (and in the config template coming with CentOS). Also, if that single virtualhost documentroot and the main documentroot (in httpd.conf) are not the same then all non-hostname access will got to the main server documentroot and not your virtual host. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote on Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:28:39 + (UTC): > In other words, ServerName alone fails to distinguish two > named virtual hosts. Oh, it sure does. If it is present in both - which it isn't in your config. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
what's the purpose of that whole confusing configuration? If you want to use IP-based virtualhosts *any* of them needs a servername. And why do you enclose the Location statement in a virtualhost? Why don't you simply specify the real location? And I would use to make it look less like XML. > Options -All SymLinksIfOwnerMatch ExecCGI you don't need to remove All >From my perspective you aim at a really hard to read and understand configuration. I wouldn't ever dare to mix the IP-based hosts like you try to do. Simplify your config and it will work. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote: > On: Centos 5.2, with httpd-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3 > > I tried to bring up a web server using an > httpd.con that runs well > > On the Centos version, I cannot successfully: >run a NameVirtualHost; >execute a CGI. > > I can bring up a simple page if I avoid the > above. Don't we all like puzzles? All those hundreds of pieces which look similar? Is that blue one there sky or is it the water? The green one over there - is it a tree? Is it a part of that house which has been painted green? If you want to solve that puzzle, it often helps to look at the picture on the top of the box. IOW: What did you try to do? What happened? What did you expect to happen? What does your config look like? Are there any errors in the log file? Ralph pgpu0FUsuSTTB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] NameVirtualHost and CGI Problems
On: Centos 5.2, with httpd-2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos.3 I tried to bring up a web server using an httpd.con that runs well on: Fedora 8, with httpd-2.2.8-1.fc8 as well as several earlier versions, going back to Fedora 4. On the Centos version, I cannot successfully: run a NameVirtualHost; execute a CGI. I can bring up a simple page if I avoid the above. Suggestions would be much appresiated. Thanks, Mike. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
