[CentOS] No DVD Mirrors - Only Torrent

2011-06-23 Thread Always Learning

I love Centos. Have in on my data centre servers, my home servers, my
laptop and my netbook. Yes there are serious and continuing security
concerns relating to Gnome and KDE but they are not Centos.

Currently running 5.6 and would like a two set DVD of that version.
However none of the mirrors offer pure DVDs only Torrent versions which
involve the possibility of bits being tampered with and things leaving
my servers without explicit knowledge and authority.

None of the CD / DVD sellers I have contacted can offer Centos 5.6 DVDs
because, they say, they can't get a virgin 5.6 DVD only Torrent.

FreeBSD 8.2 (the latest) offers a virgin 1 DVD download. The whole
distribution is about 4 DVDs. Can Centos offer a virgin 1 DVD download
of 5.6 for those of us who are unhappy about slow Torrent, the
possibility of tampering and the traffic out of our machines ?

BY THE WAY, a very BIG and GRATEFUL THANK YOU to the EXCELLENT TEAM that
gave us the wonderful Centos 5.6.  Very much appreciated and if KBS and
the others ever venture out of Kent and London a bit northwards but
south of Watford I would be delighted to buy him and the others several
rounds of drinks.

It makes me want to write an application for Linux.

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Re: [CentOS] No DVD Mirrors - Only Torrent

2011-06-23 Thread Always Learning
P.S.

Johnny,

Thank you for Seahorse. Much appreciated.


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Re: [CentOS] No DVD Mirrors - Only Torrent

2011-06-23 Thread John R Pierce
> Currently running 5.6 and would like a two set DVD of that version.
> However none of the mirrors offer pure DVDs only Torrent versions which
> involve the possibility of bits being tampered with and things leaving
> my servers without explicit knowledge and authority.
>
> None of the CD / DVD sellers I have contacted can offer Centos 5.6 DVDs
> because, they say, they can't get a virgin 5.6 DVD only Torrent.

that argument is a total red herring.

torrents are digitally signed and protected with MD5 checksums on each 
block, they can't be tampered with  as long as you get the original 
.torrent file from a reliable source.



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Re: [CentOS] No DVD Mirrors - Only Torrent

2011-06-23 Thread Edo
Hi,

On Friday, June 24, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Always Learning wrote:

[ ... ]

> Currently running 5.6 and would like a two set DVD of that version.
> However none of the mirrors offer pure DVDs only Torrent versions which
> involve the possibility of bits being tampered with and things leaving
> my servers without explicit knowledge and authority.
> 
> None of the CD / DVD sellers I have contacted can offer Centos 5.6 DVDs
> because, they say, they can't get a virgin 5.6 DVD only Torrent.

Have you tried the Asian mirrors?

http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=32

For example, 

http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/centos/5.6/isos/x86_64/

HTH,

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Re: [CentOS] No DVD Mirrors - Only Torrent

2011-06-23 Thread Always Learning

On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 18:00 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
> > Currently running 5.6 and would like a two set DVD of that version.
> > However none of the mirrors offer pure DVDs only Torrent versions which
> > involve the possibility of bits being tampered with and things leaving
> > my servers without explicit knowledge and authority.
> >
> > None of the CD / DVD sellers I have contacted can offer Centos 5.6 DVDs
> > because, they say, they can't get a virgin 5.6 DVD only Torrent.
> 
> that argument is a total red herring.
> 
> torrents are digitally signed and protected with MD5 checksums on each 
> block, they can't be tampered with  as long as you get the original 
> .torrent file from a reliable source.

Thank you. I note your reservation "as long as you get the
original .torrent file from a reliable source."  I don't know what this
exactly means." 

I prefer virgin copies.


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Re: [CentOS] No DVD Mirrors - Only Torrent

2011-06-23 Thread Always Learning

Hi Edo,

> > Currently running 5.6 and would like a two set DVD of that version.
> > However none of the mirrors offer pure DVDs only Torrent versions which
> > involve the possibility of bits being tampered with and things leaving
> > my servers without explicit knowledge and authority.
> > 
> > None of the CD / DVD sellers I have contacted can offer Centos 5.6 DVDs
> > because, they say, they can't get a virgin 5.6 DVD only Torrent.

> Have you tried the Asian mirrors?
> 
> http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=32
> 
> For example, 
> 
> http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/centos/5.6/isos/x86_64/
> 
> HTH,

Thank you very much. It does help enormously. I am most grateful.

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Re: [CentOS] No DVD Mirrors - Only Torrent

2011-06-23 Thread John R Pierce
> Thank you. I note your reservation "as long as you get the
> original .torrent file from a reliable source."  I don't know what this
> exactly means."
>
> I prefer virgin copies.

right now, you get that virgin copy off one or another of the centos 
mirrors, and check its md5 against the master copy on the centos site?

so... get the torrent file from the same place.  verify the .torrent 
control file's md5 before starting the torrent.   when the torrent has 
finished transferring, you can also verify the md5's of the ISO files it 
contains.

but...  the DVD ISO's are on select mirrors, such as 
http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.6/isos/x86_64/


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Re: [CentOS] No DVD Mirrors - Only Torrent

2011-06-23 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
On Thursday 23 June 2011 20:23, Always Learning wrote:

> Currently running 5.6 and would like a two set DVD of that version.
> However none of the mirrors offer pure DVDs only Torrent versions
> which involve the possibility of bits being tampered with and things
> leaving my servers without explicit knowledge and authority.

Some of the mirrors have DVD images available for direct download. For 
example, at http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=30 , 
some mirrors are indicated as having "Direct DVD Downloads".

I agree with John that the argument about torrents not being "virgin" is 
complete nonsense. You get the torrent file from one of the mirrors, 
and that's just as secure are getting an ISO image from one of the 
mirrors.

Once you've downloaded the DVD image using BitTorrent, you can check it 
against the checksums in the release announcement in exactly the same 
way as if you downloaded the DVD image itself from a mirror.

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Re: [CentOS] No DVD Mirrors - Only Torrent

2011-06-24 Thread Colin Coles
On Friday 24 June 2011 01:23, Always Learning wrote:
> Currently running 5.6 and would like a two set DVD of that version.
> However none of the mirrors offer pure DVDs only Torrent versions which
> involve the possibility of bits being tampered with and things leaving
> my servers without explicit knowledge and authority.
>

University of Kent mirror has DVD isos:
ftp://mirrorservice.org/sites/mirror.centos.org/5.6/isos/x86_64
ftp://mirrorservice.org/sites/mirror.centos.org/5.6/isos/i386

Colin.
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Re: [CentOS] No DVD Mirrors - Only Torrent

2011-06-24 Thread Always Learning

On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 10:02 +0100, Colin Coles wrote:

> University of Kent mirror has DVD isos:
> ftp://mirrorservice.org/sites/mirror.centos.org/5.6/isos/x86_64
> ftp://mirrorservice.org/sites/mirror.centos.org/5.6/isos/i386


Brilliant. Thank you very Colin. Much appreciated.


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