Re: [CentOS] OT: Thunderbird2 for 64 bits

2008-02-27 Thread Simon Jolle sjolle
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On 02/22/2008 04:46 PM, nate wrote:
 carlopmart wrote:
 
 I'd suggest sticking to 32-bit. Thunderbird is already a memory pig,
 using 64-bit version would only make it worse.

Why?

 My Thunderbird has been running for about 18 hours and is using
 over 200MB of memory already(2.0.0.6).

The same here. Thunderbird is running for 3 hours and use 216 MB virtual
memory size/ 90 MB resident set size.

I am subscribing to Debian, Centos, SecurityFocus and RHEL mailing
lists. Nothing special.

 In 64-bit mode I wouldn't be surprised if the same usage would
 come out to 500MB+ memory usage.

Again why?

 Of course if you have enough memory not to care to set aside half
 a gig to your e-mail client then go for it.
 
 nate

cheers
Simon


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Re: [CentOS] OT: Thunderbird2 for 64 bits

2008-02-27 Thread nate
Simon Jolle sjolle wrote:

 In 64-bit mode I wouldn't be surprised if the same usage would
 come out to 500MB+ memory usage.

 Again why?

Because 64-bit apps in general use more memory


SSH 64-bit:
root  4193  0.0  0.0 21932 1272 ?Ss   Jan29   1:00 /usr/sbin/sshd

SSH 32-bit:
root 19725  0.0  0.0   4392   276 ?Ss2007   7:52 /usr/sbin/sshd

500%+ more memory

SNMPD 64-bit:
root  4146  0.0  0.0 88316 5952 ?SJan29   2:58
/usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p /var/run/snmpd.pid -a

SNMPD 32-bit:
root 19928  0.0  0.1  14436  2032 ?S 2007  42:07
/usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -p /var/run/snmpd -a

600%+ more memory

Apache 64-bit:
apache   24540  0.3  0.2 108212 13700 ?  S11:17   0:28 /usr/sbin/httpd

Apache 32-bit(same module config):
apache   28602  0.0  0.6  16136  6884 ?S08:19   0:00
/usr/sbin/httpd

600%+ more memory

List goes on..

I don't mean to imply that it's certain to use 2-3x more memory, but
in my experience it appears that 64-bit apps use much more memory
than 32-bit. I've read they can use up to 2x more memory, but clearly
in some cases it can go way beyond 2x.

It's just not worth it for most things. I tried migrating a web server
that runs Ruby on Rails/FastCGI from 32-bit to 64-bit and experienced
a 300% increase in memory utilization and about a 75% reduction in
performance. (before that my goal was to try to make everything
64-bit to make it easier to manage).

nate

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[CentOS] OT: Thunderbird2 for 64 bits

2008-02-22 Thread carlopmart

Hi all,

 Somebody knows from where can I download 64 bits version of Thunderbird2?? In 
mozilla's website only 32 bits exists.


Thanks.

--
CL Martinez
carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com
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Re: [CentOS] OT: Thunderbird2 for 64 bits

2008-02-22 Thread nate
carlopmart wrote:
 Hi all,

   Somebody knows from where can I download 64 bits version of Thunderbird2??
 In
 mozilla's website only 32 bits exists.

I'd suggest sticking to 32-bit. Thunderbird is already a memory pig,
using 64-bit version would only make it worse.

My Thunderbird has been running for about 18 hours and is using
over 200MB of memory already(2.0.0.6).

In 64-bit mode I wouldn't be surprised if the same usage would
come out to 500MB+ memory usage.

Of course if you have enough memory not to care to set aside half
a gig to your e-mail client then go for it.

nate


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