Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
I gave you a lengthy description of the Fedora lists. It's rather rude to see your question here again. Met vriendelijke groet, Hans Witvliet, J, Ing., DMO/OPS/I/APH, Kennis Team Opensource Coldenhovelaan 1 Maasland 3531RC Coldehovelaan 1, kamer B213 -Original Message- From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming Sent: vrijdag 15 februari 2019 6:29 To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data Hi, Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het elektronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
> the same thing was posted to the fedora user mailing list as well > And on opensuse. Nobody posted an answer though, his history is known. > i wouldn't be surprised if they were trolling considering what they've > posted on here and other mailing lists. > > On 16/02/19 11:02 AM, Keith Keller wrote: >> On 2019-02-15, Warren Young wrote: >>> On Feb 15, 2019, at 1:14 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming >>> wrote: >> Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB >> of data? > My budget is around USD$50 per year. >>> >>> Youâre *dreaming*. >> >> Or trolling. This user has a history of multiposting troll content (and >> indeed, he multiposted this to the Ubuntu mailing list too). >> >> --keith >> > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > -- L. de Braal BraHa Systems NL - Terneuzen T +31 115 649333 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
the same thing was posted to the fedora user mailing list as well i wouldn't be surprised if they were trolling considering what they've posted on here and other mailing lists. On 16/02/19 11:02 AM, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2019-02-15, Warren Young wrote: >> On Feb 15, 2019, at 1:14 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming >> wrote: >>> > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of > data? >>> My budget is around USD$50 per year. >> >> You’re *dreaming*. > > Or trolling. This user has a history of multiposting troll content (and > indeed, he multiposted this to the Ubuntu mailing list too). > > --keith > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On 2019-02-15, Warren Young wrote: > On Feb 15, 2019, at 1:14 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > wrote: >> Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? >>> >> My budget is around USD$50 per year. > > You’re *dreaming*. Or trolling. This user has a history of multiposting troll content (and indeed, he multiposted this to the Ubuntu mailing list too). --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:27:03PM +0100, Michael Schumacher wrote: > Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, Cross-posted noise again, nothing more. Toss in a 21 line sig for fun :/ John -- Power always has to be kept in check; power exercised in secret, especially under the cloak of national security, is doubly dangerous. -- William Proxmire (1915-2005), US senator, reformer pgpEqoZzGfbfj.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Perhaps we'll all be smiling at this in ten or twenty years, looking down at a handful of credit-card sized 100TB storage chips. Deja vu. Here's hoping... :) Ben On 2/15/19 2:27 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, it is Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming striking again. May I remind you his most successful questions were: -- [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers? (discussion following with some 50 replies) -- [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros? (discussion with 52 replies) so may be we can just stop it now... Michael Hi, Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? Here are some important factors to consider: 1. Personal/non-commercial use. 2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated from the National University of Singapore in 2007. 3. Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that is, it will not suddenly close down the next day. Please advise. Thank you. ===BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE=== The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs): [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of U.S. Embassy Workers Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/ [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/ [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming ===END EMAIL SIGNATURE=== ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos best regards --- Michael Schumacher PAMAS Partikelmess- und Analysesysteme GmbH Dieselstr.10, D-71277 Rutesheim Tel +49-7152-99630 Fax +49-7152-996333 Geschäftsführer: Gerhard Schreck Handelsregister B Stuttgart HRB 252024 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Benjamin Hauger SysAdmin/CSDC-DMO Rm. 94 x8371 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, it is Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming striking again. May I remind you his most successful questions were: -- [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers? (discussion following with some 50 replies) -- [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros? (discussion with 52 replies) so may be we can just stop it now... Michael > Hi, > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? > Here are some important factors to consider: > 1. Personal/non-commercial use. > 2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have > super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated > from the National University of Singapore in 2007. > 3. Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that is, > it will not suddenly close down the next day. > Please advise. > Thank you. > ===BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE=== > The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs): > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of > U.S. Embassy Workers > Link: > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html > > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/ > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/ > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming > ===END EMAIL SIGNATURE=== > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos best regards --- Michael Schumacher PAMAS Partikelmess- und Analysesysteme GmbH Dieselstr.10, D-71277 Rutesheim Tel +49-7152-99630 Fax +49-7152-996333 Geschäftsführer: Gerhard Schreck Handelsregister B Stuttgart HRB 252024 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On 15.02.2019 10:54, Phoenix, Merka wrote: Just downloading 2% of 50 TB (1 TB) would take a while over even a fast network link (measured in megabits (Mb), not megabytes (MB) like disk storage). Even on a local LAN downloading 1 TB is several hours @ 8 Mb/second on a Gigabit Ethernet link w/ no other traffic at all. Gigabit ethernet is capable of transfering 100 MBytes in a seond or 6 GBytes in a minute or less than 3 hours the whole TByte but transfering this via an internet link would be a challenge; ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
For non-sensitive personal data sure, I'd consider it (I consider backblaze reputable enough). However for more sensitive data or other customization options, you're really going to have to self-host and supply, like Nextcloud running on a home NAS/SAN. It's a personal call on what you are comfortable with. OP asked for a solution, and is by no means required to use it. Regards, R. S. Tyler Schroder -Original Message- From: CentOS On Behalf Of Walter H. Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:19 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the company. On 15.02.2019 18:10, (RS) Tyler Schroder wrote: > OP - Backblaze Personal. May be like $1/extra per month than your budget. Unlimited IO and backup storage assuming you only need redundancy. > > https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-backup.html would you really backup into a system, that has closed connectivity? I'd prefer connecting a way I want: e.g. SFTP, SSHFS, HTTPS, ... and not it is given by closed software you don't know ... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On 15.02.2019 19:27, Warren Young wrote: Tell ’im ’e’s *dreamin’!*. my words of unrealistic wishes :-) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On 15.02.2019 18:10, (RS) Tyler Schroder wrote: OP - Backblaze Personal. May be like $1/extra per month than your budget. Unlimited IO and backup storage assuming you only need redundancy. https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-backup.html would you really backup into a system, that has closed connectivity? I'd prefer connecting a way I want: e.g. SFTP, SSHFS, HTTPS, ... and not it is given by closed software you don't know ... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On Feb 15, 2019, at 10:00 AM, mark wrote: > > Warren Young wrote: >> >> The cheapest RAID-friendly drives we’re buying these days are about US >> $37/TB in low quantities. > > $38/tb? Google shopping shows me a 4TB WD Red at $110. 5400 RPM. Red Pros are $170 at NewEgg, and we’re using WD Golds at $199. That’s $50/TB, but the $37/TB mark is for higher capacity drives. Even if we take your numbers and halve them again to get miracle high-quantity pricing, the payoff time at the OP’s wished-for $1/TB/year is about 14 years, and we haven’t even added in ancillary costs like the enclosure, redundancy, power, cooling, networking, staff, drive replacement… > A two-drive esata bay is under $100. …which won’t hold 50 TB of data. Even a 4-drive enclosure isn’t enough, since even with single redundancy, the largest drives are 15/16 TB, depending on the technology, so that only gets you 45 or 48 TB. And then you’ve got to work out how to use those SMR or MAMR drives efficiently. Stepping back to standard technology 10 TB drives requires 7 of them to get 50 TB with dual redundancy, so even with miracle pricing, you’re probably talking about something like $750 for the raw hardware, which gets paid back in ~15 years on the OP’s schedule, and then only if all 7 drives last 15 years! Tell ’im ’e’s *dreamin’!*. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Warren Young wrote: > On Feb 15, 2019, at 1:14 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > wrote: > >> Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? >>> >> My budget is around USD$50 per year. >> > > The cheapest RAID-friendly drives we’re buying these days are about US > $37/TB in low quantities. > > A big data warehouser will be getting a substantial price break on their > drives, but even halving the payoff time, you’re still asking the cloud > storage provider to accept a payoff time in the 18 year range. And > that’s ignoring the cost of rack space, computers to run the drives, > networking, bandwidth, staff, redundancy, drive turnover... > > There’s nothing magical about The Cloud that makes everything cheaper. > They still have to buy the same components you and I do, then they have > to pay someone to manage it all, someone else to house it all, etc. > > You’re *dreaming*. $38/tb? Google shopping shows me a 4TB WD Red at $110. A two-drive esata bay is under $100. Btw, for anything like this, DO NOT BUY consumer grade drives. Make *sure* they're NAS-rated, like WD Red or Seagate Ironwolf. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
OP - Backblaze Personal. May be like $1/extra per month than your budget. Unlimited IO and backup storage assuming you only need redundancy. https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-backup.html Still going to take a while on initial upload. (Sounds almost AWS Snowball like is what you need but too costly). Regards, R. S. Tyler Schroder Redcoded.com Cyber Intellegence > On Feb 15, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Elliot wrote: > > > CAUTION: This message was sent from outside the company. > > >> On 2/15/19 7:22 AM, Warren Young wrote: >>> On Feb 15, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Yan Li wrote: >>> >>> G Suite Business tier. Buy five users and you get unlimited Google Drive >>> storage. That's $50/month. >> >> So, you’re already 12x higher than his budget, and it’ll be going up 20% in >> early April. > > Sorry. I read $50/month... My bad. > >> I can say from personal experience that Google is a bit stingy about such >> things. They give G Suite basic users 30 GB of storage, but if you try to >> put tens of GB in it, you can only pull that all down a few times a month >> before that user’s account gets locked. That happened to us with one user >> that kept blowing up his laptop, requiring a rebuild, and thus a re-download >> of the entire IMAP archive he insisted on keeping in the cloud. > > True. > >> If they’re doing that to us, 3 orders of magnitude down from the OP’s target >> value, I think he’ll have a bad time trying to put 50 TB into a single >> Google Drive account. > > OP should check if their university already offers G Suite. Most > colleges in US do, and they come with unlimited storage (with all the > shortcomings you mentioned above). > > -- > Elliot > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On 2/15/19 7:22 AM, Warren Young wrote: On Feb 15, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Yan Li wrote: G Suite Business tier. Buy five users and you get unlimited Google Drive storage. That's $50/month. So, you’re already 12x higher than his budget, and it’ll be going up 20% in early April. Sorry. I read $50/month... My bad. I can say from personal experience that Google is a bit stingy about such things. They give G Suite basic users 30 GB of storage, but if you try to put tens of GB in it, you can only pull that all down a few times a month before that user’s account gets locked. That happened to us with one user that kept blowing up his laptop, requiring a rebuild, and thus a re-download of the entire IMAP archive he insisted on keeping in the cloud. True. If they’re doing that to us, 3 orders of magnitude down from the OP’s target value, I think he’ll have a bad time trying to put 50 TB into a single Google Drive account. OP should check if their university already offers G Suite. Most colleges in US do, and they come with unlimited storage (with all the shortcomings you mentioned above). -- Elliot ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On Feb 15, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Yan Li wrote: > > G Suite Business tier. Buy five users and you get unlimited Google Drive > storage. That's $50/month. So, you’re already 12x higher than his budget, and it’ll be going up 20% in early April. On top of that, there’s certainly a transfer rate limit. I couldn’t find a reliable source saying what that limit is, but I found a related limit for G Suite here: https://support.google.com/a/answer/1071518 If that applies to Google Drive as well, it’ll take about 182 years to send 50 TB. I can say from personal experience that Google is a bit stingy about such things. They give G Suite basic users 30 GB of storage, but if you try to put tens of GB in it, you can only pull that all down a few times a month before that user’s account gets locked. That happened to us with one user that kept blowing up his laptop, requiring a rebuild, and thus a re-download of the entire IMAP archive he insisted on keeping in the cloud. If they’re doing that to us, 3 orders of magnitude down from the OP’s target value, I think he’ll have a bad time trying to put 50 TB into a single Google Drive account. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html G Suite Business tier. Buy five users and you get unlimited Google Drive storage. That's $50/month. On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 9:29 PM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming < tdteoenm...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of > data? > > Here are some important factors to consider: > > 1. Personal/non-commercial use. > 2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have > super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated > from the National University of Singapore in 2007. > 3. Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that is, > it will not suddenly close down the next day. > > Please advise. > > Thank you. > > > > ===BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE=== > > The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs): > > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of > U.S. Embassy Workers > > Link: > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html > > > > > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 > > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/ > > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/ > > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming > > ===END EMAIL SIGNATURE=== > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On Feb 15, 2019, at 1:14 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > >>> Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? >> > My budget is around USD$50 per year. The cheapest RAID-friendly drives we’re buying these days are about US $37/TB in low quantities. A big data warehouser will be getting a substantial price break on their drives, but even halving the payoff time, you’re still asking the cloud storage provider to accept a payoff time in the 18 year range. And that’s ignoring the cost of rack space, computers to run the drives, networking, bandwidth, staff, redundancy, drive turnover... There’s nothing magical about The Cloud that makes everything cheaper. They still have to buy the same components you and I do, then they have to pay someone to manage it all, someone else to house it all, etc. You’re *dreaming*. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
What's the data worth? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:55 PM Phoenix, Merka wrote: > > >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:10 PM Walter H. > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > On 15.02.2019 06:29, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > >> > > Hi, > >> > > > >> > > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of > >> > > data? > >> > whats your budget? > >> > > >> > and 50 TB = 50 000 GB is a big amount which isn't this cheap ... > >> > >> >> Hi Walter H, > >> >> > >> >> My budget is around USD$50 per year. > >> > >> Wow. A single disk for a PC (lowest size 1 TB) usually costs more than > >> USD$50 in retail store. > >> Capacity for a single drive is just now available at 6 TB and 8 TB > >> capacities, so 50 TB would require storage array network >> (SAN) h/w at > >> hosting provider (which isn't cheap). > >> > >> That amount of storage ( 50 TB ) from an online provider probably isn't > >> available within your stated budget. > >> Just the disk drives alone to hold 50 TB would cost more than USD$50. > > > > Hi Merka, > > > > I understand. I probably wanted data "redundancy" in the Cloud only. > > 50 TB is a very large amount of disk storage. Are you sure that you have the > correct unit of measure? Yes, I have the correct unit of measure. > > Just downloading 2% of 50 TB (1 TB) would take a while over even a fast > network link (measured in megabits (Mb), not megabytes (MB) like disk > storage). Even on a local LAN downloading 1 TB is several hours @ 8 Mb/second > on a Gigabit Ethernet link w/ no other traffic at all. I think my Singapore M1 ISP Home Fiber 1 Gbps broadband connection is capable of downloading at the speed of 60 Mega Bytes per second or more. > > According to: https://www.gbmb.org/tb-to-mb > 1 Terabyte is equal to 100 megabytes (decimal). > 1 TB = 106 MB in base 10 (SI). > > 1 Terabyte (2^40) is equal to 1048576 megabytes (2^20) (binary). > > Terabyte unit symbol is TB, Megabyte unit symbol is MB. > Terabyte is 1,000,000 times bigger than Megabyte. > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ===BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE=== The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs): [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of U.S. Embassy Workers Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/ [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/ [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming ===END EMAIL SIGNATURE=== ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:10 PM Walter H. wrote: >> > >> > On 15.02.2019 06:29, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of >> > > data? >> > whats your budget? >> > >> > and 50 TB = 50 000 GB is a big amount which isn't this cheap ... >> >> >> Hi Walter H, >> >> >> >> My budget is around USD$50 per year. >> >> Wow. A single disk for a PC (lowest size 1 TB) usually costs more than >> USD$50 in retail store. >> Capacity for a single drive is just now available at 6 TB and 8 TB >> capacities, so 50 TB would require storage array network >> (SAN) h/w at >> hosting provider (which isn't cheap). >> >> That amount of storage ( 50 TB ) from an online provider probably isn't >> available within your stated budget. >> Just the disk drives alone to hold 50 TB would cost more than USD$50. > > Hi Merka, > > I understand. I probably wanted data "redundancy" in the Cloud only. 50 TB is a very large amount of disk storage. Are you sure that you have the correct unit of measure? Just downloading 2% of 50 TB (1 TB) would take a while over even a fast network link (measured in megabits (Mb), not megabytes (MB) like disk storage). Even on a local LAN downloading 1 TB is several hours @ 8 Mb/second on a Gigabit Ethernet link w/ no other traffic at all. According to: https://www.gbmb.org/tb-to-mb 1 Terabyte is equal to 100 megabytes (decimal). 1 TB = 106 MB in base 10 (SI). 1 Terabyte (2^40) is equal to 1048576 megabytes (2^20) (binary). Terabyte unit symbol is TB, Megabyte unit symbol is MB. Terabyte is 1,000,000 times bigger than Megabyte. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:18 PM Phoenix, Merka wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:10 PM Walter H. wrote: > > > > On 15.02.2019 06:29, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of > > > data? > > whats your budget? > > > > and 50 TB = 50 000 GB is a big amount which isn't this cheap ... > > >> Hi Walter H, > >> > >> My budget is around USD$50 per year. > > Wow. A single disk for a PC (lowest size 1 TB) usually costs more than USD$50 > in retail store. > Capacity for a single drive is just now available at 6 TB and 8 TB > capacities, so 50 TB would require storage array network (SAN) h/w at hosting > provider (which isn't cheap). > > That amount of storage ( 50 TB ) from an online provider probably isn't > available within your stated budget. > Just the disk drives alone to hold 50 TB would cost more than USD$50. Hi Merka, I understand. I probably wanted data "redundancy" in the Cloud only. Thank you. > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ===BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE=== The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs): [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of U.S. Embassy Workers Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/ [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/ [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming ===END EMAIL SIGNATURE=== ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:10 PM Walter H. wrote: > > On 15.02.2019 06:29, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? > whats your budget? > > and 50 TB = 50 000 GB is a big amount which isn't this cheap ... >> Hi Walter H, >> >> My budget is around USD$50 per year. Wow. A single disk for a PC (lowest size 1 TB) usually costs more than USD$50 in retail store. Capacity for a single drive is just now available at 6 TB and 8 TB capacities, so 50 TB would require storage array network (SAN) h/w at hosting provider (which isn't cheap). That amount of storage ( 50 TB ) from an online provider probably isn't available within your stated budget. Just the disk drives alone to hold 50 TB would cost more than USD$50. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On 15.02.2019 09:14, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:10 PM Walter H. wrote: On 15.02.2019 06:29, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Hi, Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? whats your budget? and 50 TB = 50 000 GB is a big amount which isn't this cheap ... Hi Walter H, My budget is around USD$50 per year. Thank you. not realistic, even ONE HDD with just 10 TB costs more then US$ 300 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:10 PM Walter H. wrote: > > On 15.02.2019 06:29, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? > whats your budget? > > and 50 TB = 50 000 GB is a big amount which isn't this cheap ... Hi Walter H, My budget is around USD$50 per year. Thank you. > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ===BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE=== The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs): [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of U.S. Embassy Workers Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/ [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/ [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming ===END EMAIL SIGNATURE=== ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
On 15.02.2019 06:29, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Hi, Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? whats your budget? and 50 TB = 50 000 GB is a big amount which isn't this cheap ... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
Hi, Could you recommend affordable and reliable cloud storage for 50 TB of data? Here are some important factors to consider: 1. Personal/non-commercial use. 2. Must be affordable, since I am unemployed most of the time and have super low levels of income for the past 12 years since I graduated from the National University of Singapore in 2007. 3. Cloud storage provider must not be a fly-by-night company, that is, it will not suddenly close down the next day. Please advise. Thank you. ===BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE=== The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs): [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of U.S. Embassy Workers Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/ [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/ [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming ===END EMAIL SIGNATURE=== ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos