Re: [CentOS] Please help me rate vnc, rdesktop, and freenx

2007-12-07 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007, Brian Mathis wrote:
On Dec 6, 2007 5:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have been dragging my feet on remote display, and have just gotten VNC
 going to have SOMETHING to move off the start line.  But I need the
 'best' for different situations, so I want to rate them.

 1 to 3 where 1 is the 'best' for the catagory and 3 the loser.

 VNC  RDESKTOP  FREENX


 Server memory
 Server cpu
 client memory
 client cpu
 bandwidth

 thanks.  I AM search the net for this information.  So far have not
 found the magic query request :)


There are numerous ways to remotely access a Linux machine, and
honestly the remote desktop style that Windows uses is the worst of
them.  VNC, rdesktop, and freenx all replicate that method of access,
where you basically get a picture of what would be on the monitor if
you were sitting at it.

As was already mentioned, ssh is really the main way for remote
access, but for people not familiar with Linux, there's no GUI and no
mouse beyond copy/paste, so you may look for another solution.

The real *NIX way of accessing a graphical application remotely is by
using a remote X desktop.  It sounds strange if you're not familiar
with it, but basically you run the 1 application on the remote server,
and the application window (and only the application window), shows up
on your local workstation.  SSH provides a way to do this securely.
The drawback is you will need an X server running on your local
computer, but that can be had for free in Windows from cygwin.

I don't Do Windows(tm) so rarely have to deal with them.  When
working with Linux and other *nix systems, it's always through
ssh with X11 forwarding for those rare occassions when I need to
do something like run Firefox from a client's machine to access a
router from their private LAN.  That can get a bit clunky on slow
connections, but it does work.

If I'm on a fast connection, I'll run the xterm on the remote
system with ``ssh -f remotename xterm'', but if it's a slow
connection ``xterm -e ssh remotename '' to run the xterm on my
local machine.

Once I get around to upgrading my Macs to Leopard, I may use the
Apple remote desktop feature occassionally when I need to see
what a client is doing on their desktop which should be faster
than trying to talk them through a GUI on the phone.

Bill
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Re: [CentOS] Please help me rate vnc, rdesktop, and freenx

2007-12-06 Thread Les Bell

Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


1 to 3 where 1 is the 'best' for the catagory and 3 the loser.


You fogot the ssh/vi combination, which rates 1 across the board.

Best,

--- Les Bell, RHCE, CISSP
[http://www.lesbell.com.au]
Tel: +61 2 9451 1144
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Re: [CentOS] Please help me rate vnc, rdesktop, and freenx

2007-12-06 Thread Brian Mathis
On Dec 6, 2007 5:05 PM, Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have been dragging my feet on remote display, and have just gotten VNC
 going to have SOMETHING to move off the start line.  But I need the
 'best' for different situations, so I want to rate them.

 1 to 3 where 1 is the 'best' for the catagory and 3 the loser.

 VNC  RDESKTOP  FREENX


 Server memory
 Server cpu
 client memory
 client cpu
 bandwidth

 thanks.  I AM search the net for this information.  So far have not
 found the magic query request :)


There are numerous ways to remotely access a Linux machine, and
honestly the remote desktop style that Windows uses is the worst of
them.  VNC, rdesktop, and freenx all replicate that method of access,
where you basically get a picture of what would be on the monitor if
you were sitting at it.

As was already mentioned, ssh is really the main way for remote
access, but for people not familiar with Linux, there's no GUI and no
mouse beyond copy/paste, so you may look for another solution.

The real *NIX way of accessing a graphical application remotely is by
using a remote X desktop.  It sounds strange if you're not familiar
with it, but basically you run the 1 application on the remote server,
and the application window (and only the application window), shows up
on your local workstation.  SSH provides a way to do this securely.
The drawback is you will need an X server running on your local
computer, but that can be had for free in Windows from cygwin.

Having stepped your foot in all of that now, the simplest GUI to get
working is the vnc/freenx style of remote access.  I have only used
VNC, and it works well enough, but I hear good things about freenx.
If you go the VNC route, make sure to set up a firewall to block
direct access to the vnc port, and only access it through ssh
forwarding, as vnc is not secure by itself.
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Re: [CentOS] Please help me rate vnc, rdesktop, and freenx

2007-12-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Les Bell wrote:

Robert Moskowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
1 to 3 where 1 is the 'best' for the catagory and 3 the loser.



You fogot the ssh/vi combination, which rates 1 across the board.
  

ssh/vi 


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