Re: [CentOS] Postfix Questions

2009-05-02 Thread German Andres Pulido Franco
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From: Indunil Jayasooriya 
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Postfix Questions

> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
>  wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am working on setting up Postfix and I have a few questions:
> >
> > 1. mynetworks =  Do I put my public static IP here? So I am hosting at
> > another provider on my own dedicated hardware. Do I put that machines
> > IP or the IP of my apartment where I want to access from? Second, do I
> > have to know the Ip information for my BlackBerry to work as well?
> >
> 
> put clients ip range there.
> 
> e.g
> 
> mynetworks = 192.168.0.0/24
> 
> then, clinets behind postfix mail server will be able to send mail 
> via postfix server.
> 
> > 2. relaying: Obviously I dont want to be an open relay, but I do what
> > to send mail from my apartment and from my Blackberry.
> 
> as i said the above under mynetworks, Pls add those ip ranges. then, 
> u r done.

For dynamic IPs, like those assigned by home ISPs is not useful (besides
stupid) adding the ISP's range (since the spammers will probably be windows
machines using an IP from the same IP range than yours). What I did was
implementing SMTP authentication, and then I can send e-amil from my e-mail
client at home without my server being an open relay and without allowing the
full ISP IP range to send mail through my mail server.

Regards.

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix Questions

2009-05-02 Thread Indunil Jayasooriya
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
 wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am working on setting up Postfix and I have a few questions:
>
> 1. mynetworks =  Do I put my public static IP here? So I am hosting at
> another provider on my own dedicated hardware. Do I put that machines
> IP or the IP of my apartment where I want to access from? Second, do I
> have to know the Ip information for my BlackBerry to work as well?
>

put clients ip range there.

e.g

mynetworks = 192.168.0.0/24

then, clinets behind postfix mail server will be able to send mail via
postfix server.



> 2. relaying: Obviously I dont want to be an open relay, but I do what
> to send mail from my apartment and from my Blackberry.


as i said the above under mynetworks, Pls add those ip ranges. then, u r done.

>


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Re: [CentOS] Postfix Questions

2009-05-01 Thread Ian Blackwell

Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
> 1. mynetworks =  Do I put my public static IP here? So I am hosting  
> at
> another provider on my own dedicated hardware. Do I put that machines
> IP or the IP of my apartment where I want to access from? Second,  
> do I
> have to know the Ip information for my BlackBerry to work as well
>>> See here:
>>>   
>> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix
>> 
>
> This is what I am working with in section 3.1, but I am confused as t  
> what the right answer is.
>
> -Jason
>   
Only put your private IP network addresses here, not public ones.

Ian
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Re: [CentOS] Postfix Questions

2009-05-01 Thread Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
Hi Ned,

>> I am working on setting up Postfix and I have a few questions:
>>
>> 1. mynetworks =  Do I put my public static IP here? So I am hosting  
>> at
>> another provider on my own dedicated hardware. Do I put that machines
>> IP or the IP of my apartment where I want to access from? Second,  
>> do I
>> have to know the Ip information for my BlackBerry to work as well?
>>
>> 2. relaying: Obviously I dont want to be an open relay, but I do what
>> to send mail from my apartment and from my Blackberry.
>>

>> See here:
>
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix

This is what I am working with in section 3.1, but I am confused as t  
what the right answer is.

-Jason

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix Questions

2009-05-01 Thread Ned Slider
Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am working on setting up Postfix and I have a few questions:
> 
> 1. mynetworks =  Do I put my public static IP here? So I am hosting at  
> another provider on my own dedicated hardware. Do I put that machines  
> IP or the IP of my apartment where I want to access from? Second, do I  
> have to know the Ip information for my BlackBerry to work as well?
> 
> 2. relaying: Obviously I dont want to be an open relay, but I do what  
> to send mail from my apartment and from my Blackberry.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> -Jason
> 

See here:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix_sasl
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[CentOS] Postfix Questions

2009-05-01 Thread Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
Hi All,

I am working on setting up Postfix and I have a few questions:

1. mynetworks =  Do I put my public static IP here? So I am hosting at  
another provider on my own dedicated hardware. Do I put that machines  
IP or the IP of my apartment where I want to access from? Second, do I  
have to know the Ip information for my BlackBerry to work as well?

2. relaying: Obviously I dont want to be an open relay, but I do what  
to send mail from my apartment and from my Blackberry.

Ideas?

-Jason

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix Questions

2007-09-20 Thread Lanny Marcus
On 18 September 2007, John Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Message: 11

> Also, we run the SpamHaus blacklist. This works pretty good for
> inbound, but from time to time one of our hosting clients winds up on
> the blocklist because they are on a dynamic IP and someone else has
> recently used it for spamming. One could argue that my client should
> then go remove their IP from the blacklist to better insure their
> email actually makes it through any other level of spam filtering on
> other ISPs. But, that's a rosey concept! 

John: That happened to us, this week. I was unable to use the SMTP on my
web site for somewhere between 48-67 hours, because of Spamhaus.
Apparently, this morning, when my wife powered things up, we got a clean
IP address. When I went to the Spamhaus web site, it showed the IP
numbers clear, but, on other lists. Supposedly, if one uses SMTP
Authentication, this problem goes away. However, I have always used SMTP
Authentication. I do not want to change to another web hosting ISP,
because this problem might follow me. And, I've been with them for
almost 6 years. Also, Spamhaus says the problem should go away, in 1 or
2 hours, and in the past that was true, but not this time. Good for you,
to want to handle this in a better way for your clients! Lanny

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Re: [CentOS] Postfix Questions

2007-09-18 Thread Feizhou

John Hinton wrote:

I've been running sendmail since the beginning of my online time.

1. Did I see that postfix can run sendmail milters?


Yes but different version with varying levels of milter support.

2. If so, did I read that postfix can run these separately for inbound 
vs. outbound?


Yes you can apply separate rules for incoming and outgoing emails if 
they come from separate ips or ports.



3. Can it run like a rbl blacklist on inbound and not outbound?


Yes.

4. If the above is true, does this require separate configurations of 
postfix or is it already set to allow this out of the box?


You will need to configure postfix appropriately.



My reasoning... I've added a few milters which has drastically cut spam 
due to the extra time spent at the smtp level. For instance, running 
spamassassin takes a couple or few seconds. This bit of delay does in 
fact seem to stop many of the slamming spambots sort of like the design 
of milter-greylist. Except, I don't have to send a temp fail. So, this 
is a good thing. The negative is it also takes longer for my users to 
send mail as it is processed the same way during outgoing.


I do not know what level of milter support is required by your milters 
so you may want to check them out. The latest versions of postfix will 
have more complete support.




Also, we run the SpamHaus blacklist. This works pretty good for inbound, 
but from time to time one of our hosting clients winds up on the 
blocklist because they are on a dynamic IP and someone else has recently 
used it for spamming. One could argue that my client should then go 
remove their IP from the blacklist to better insure their email actually 
makes it through any other level of spam filtering on other ISPs. But, 
that's a rosey concept! So, I would prefer to do it at the smtp level 
inbound so I can actually reject that mail while not having the 
embarrassing blocking going on with our users. Yes, this might sound 
like a double standard, but we do not provide connection service so only 
very rarely (never so far) does any virus actually send spam through our 
systems from client applications and I do actually monitor email all the 
time and stop any spamming immediately.


Sure, just make sure they use port 587 and are only allowed to have 
their email relayed after authentication and disable filtering rules for 
port 587.

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[CentOS] Postfix Questions

2007-09-18 Thread John Hinton

I've been running sendmail since the beginning of my online time.

1. Did I see that postfix can run sendmail milters?
2. If so, did I read that postfix can run these separately for inbound 
vs. outbound?

3. Can it run like a rbl blacklist on inbound and not outbound?
4. If the above is true, does this require separate configurations of 
postfix or is it already set to allow this out of the box?


My reasoning... I've added a few milters which has drastically cut spam 
due to the extra time spent at the smtp level. For instance, running 
spamassassin takes a couple or few seconds. This bit of delay does in 
fact seem to stop many of the slamming spambots sort of like the design 
of milter-greylist. Except, I don't have to send a temp fail. So, this 
is a good thing. The negative is it also takes longer for my users to 
send mail as it is processed the same way during outgoing.


Also, we run the SpamHaus blacklist. This works pretty good for inbound, 
but from time to time one of our hosting clients winds up on the 
blocklist because they are on a dynamic IP and someone else has recently 
used it for spamming. One could argue that my client should then go 
remove their IP from the blacklist to better insure their email actually 
makes it through any other level of spam filtering on other ISPs. But, 
that's a rosey concept! So, I would prefer to do it at the smtp level 
inbound so I can actually reject that mail while not having the 
embarrassing blocking going on with our users. Yes, this might sound 
like a double standard, but we do not provide connection service so only 
very rarely (never so far) does any virus actually send spam through our 
systems from client applications and I do actually monitor email all the 
time and stop any spamming immediately.


Thanks for any input.

John Hinton with sendmail>

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