Re: [CentOS] Re: 3Ware 9690SA

2008-06-08 Thread Gavin Carr 
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 12:32:47AM +0200, Vidar Normann wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Scott Silva wrote:
> >> http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257 is the files that go on a
> >> driver disk. I just dl'd it and opened it.
> >> I know there is a way to use a driver disk from other media, but I can't
> >> find it, and I'm sure someone on list will remember how.
> >> 
> >>
> > Yes these are the files I was using.  It wouldn't let me install with these
> > files on a usb drive or a cdrom, but it worked fine when I put them on a
> > floppy.  I then did an upgrade install of CentOS, and was able to boot into
> > the system.
> > The only issue now seems to be that I still can't boot the xen kernel with
> > it.  I tried manually copying the 3w-9xxx.ko from
> > /lib/modules/2.6.18-53.el5/updates to
> > /lib/modules/2.6.18-53.1.21.el5xen/updates, but that didn't seem to help.
> >
> > Do I need to mkinitrd or something?
> >
> 
> Maybe not 100% useful, but I had trouble installing CentOS on a machine with
> a 9690SA as recently as tonight - who has floppy
> drives anymore? (Well, I did, but all my floppies were unusable, big
> shock..)
> 
> The trick was to use the method explained on this site to turn the files in
> the driver download from 3ware into an image:
> http://www.openfusion.net/linux/network-driver-images

Cool, citation! Glad that was useful to someone. 

Cheers,
Gavin

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Re: [CentOS] Re: 3Ware 9690SA

2008-06-07 Thread Johnny Hughes 

Ruslan Sivak wrote:

Scott Silva wrote:




 



The ones on their standard download page are not compatible with Xen 
kernels according to the release notes.  The ones to be used for Xen 
kernels on x64 is this one: 
http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257


That only has a zip file, not an image file.

Russ
http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257 is the files that go on 
a driver disk. I just dl'd it and opened it.
I know there is a way to use a driver disk from other media, but I 
can't find it, and I'm sure someone on list will remember how.



  


Yes these are the files I was using.  It wouldn't let me install with 
these files on a usb drive or a cdrom, but it worked fine when I put 
them on a floppy.  I then did an upgrade install of CentOS, and was able 
to boot into the system.
The only issue now seems to be that I still can't boot the xen kernel 
with it.  I tried manually copying the 3w-9xxx.ko from 
/lib/modules/2.6.18-53.el5/updates to 
/lib/modules/2.6.18-53.1.21.el5xen/updates, but that didn't seem to help.


Do I need to mkinitrd or something?


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[CentOS] Re: 3Ware 9690SA

2008-06-06 Thread Scott Silva 

on 6-6-2008 3:32 PM Vidar Normann spake the following:



On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Ruslan Sivak 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Scott Silva wrote:








The ones on their standard download page are not compatible
with Xen kernels according to the release notes.  The ones
to be used for Xen kernels on x64 is this one:
http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257

That only has a zip file, not an image file.

Russ

http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257 is the files that
go on a driver disk. I just dl'd it and opened it.
I know there is a way to use a driver disk from other media, but
I can't find it, and I'm sure someone on list will remember how.


 



Yes these are the files I was using.  It wouldn't let me install
with these files on a usb drive or a cdrom, but it worked fine when
I put them on a floppy.  I then did an upgrade install of CentOS,
and was able to boot into the system.
The only issue now seems to be that I still can't boot the xen
kernel with it.  I tried manually copying the 3w-9xxx.ko from
/lib/modules/2.6.18-53.el5/updates to
/lib/modules/2.6.18-53.1.21.el5xen/updates, but that didn't seem to
help.

Do I need to mkinitrd or something?


Maybe not 100% useful, but I had trouble installing CentOS on a machine 
with a 9690SA as recently as tonight - who has floppy
drives anymore? (Well, I did, but all my floppies were unusable, big 
shock..)


The trick was to use the method explained on this site to turn the files 
in the driver download from 3ware into an image:

http://www.openfusion.net/linux/network-driver-images

Upload it to somewhere accessible via the Internet or your local 
network. Then all I had to do was boot with the parameter:

linux dd=http://somewhere.com/filename

Good to know that dd supports http and ftp out of the box and not just 
local media.



I knew someone would remember how to use a driverdisk image over a network!

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Re: [CentOS] Re: 3Ware 9690SA

2008-06-06 Thread Vidar Normann 
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:16 AM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Scott Silva wrote:
>
>>
>>
 


>>>
>>> The ones on their standard download page are not compatible with Xen
>>> kernels according to the release notes.  The ones to be used for Xen kernels
>>> on x64 is this one: http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257
>>>
>>> That only has a zip file, not an image file.
>>>
>>> Russ
>>>
>> http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257 is the files that go on a
>> driver disk. I just dl'd it and opened it.
>> I know there is a way to use a driver disk from other media, but I can't
>> find it, and I'm sure someone on list will remember how.
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yes these are the files I was using.  It wouldn't let me install with these
> files on a usb drive or a cdrom, but it worked fine when I put them on a
> floppy.  I then did an upgrade install of CentOS, and was able to boot into
> the system.
> The only issue now seems to be that I still can't boot the xen kernel with
> it.  I tried manually copying the 3w-9xxx.ko from
> /lib/modules/2.6.18-53.el5/updates to
> /lib/modules/2.6.18-53.1.21.el5xen/updates, but that didn't seem to help.
>
> Do I need to mkinitrd or something?
>

Maybe not 100% useful, but I had trouble installing CentOS on a machine with
a 9690SA as recently as tonight - who has floppy
drives anymore? (Well, I did, but all my floppies were unusable, big
shock..)

The trick was to use the method explained on this site to turn the files in
the driver download from 3ware into an image:
http://www.openfusion.net/linux/network-driver-images

Upload it to somewhere accessible via the Internet or your local network.
Then all I had to do was boot with the parameter:
linux dd=http://somewhere.com/filename

Good to know that dd supports http and ftp out of the box and not just local
media.


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Re: [CentOS] Re: 3Ware 9690SA

2008-06-06 Thread Ruslan Sivak 

Scott Silva wrote:




 



The ones on their standard download page are not compatible with Xen 
kernels according to the release notes.  The ones to be used for Xen 
kernels on x64 is this one: 
http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257


That only has a zip file, not an image file.

Russ
http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257 is the files that go on 
a driver disk. I just dl'd it and opened it.
I know there is a way to use a driver disk from other media, but I 
can't find it, and I'm sure someone on list will remember how.



  


Yes these are the files I was using.  It wouldn't let me install with 
these files on a usb drive or a cdrom, but it worked fine when I put 
them on a floppy.  I then did an upgrade install of CentOS, and was able 
to boot into the system. 

The only issue now seems to be that I still can't boot the xen kernel 
with it.  I tried manually copying the 3w-9xxx.ko from 
/lib/modules/2.6.18-53.el5/updates to 
/lib/modules/2.6.18-53.1.21.el5xen/updates, but that didn't seem to help.


Do I need to mkinitrd or something?

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[CentOS] Re: 3Ware 9690SA

2008-06-06 Thread Scott Silva 







The ones on their standard download page are not compatible with Xen 
kernels according to the release notes.  The ones to be used for Xen 
kernels on x64 is this one: http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257


That only has a zip file, not an image file.

Russ
http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257 is the files that go on a driver 
disk. I just dl'd it and opened it.
I know there is a way to use a driver disk from other media, but I can't find 
it, and I'm sure someone on list will remember how.

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[CentOS] Re: 3Ware 9690SA

2008-06-06 Thread Scott Silva 





The ones on their standard download page are not compatible with Xen 
kernels according to the release notes.  The ones to be used for Xen 
kernels on x64 is this one: http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257


That only has a zip file, not an image file.

Russ
Then you might just have to wait, or do a base install to a separate drive, 
install the driver, and migrate the whole thing to the raid.
Or just run the base OS off of the separate drive for the initial tests and 
keep the Domu images on the raid array. Either way, 5.2 will probably (maybe?) 
be out by the 3rd week of June.


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Re: [CentOS] Re: 3Ware 9690SA

2008-06-06 Thread Ruslan Sivak 

Scott Silva wrote:

on 6-6-2008 10:48 AM Ruslan Sivak spake the following:

Victor Padro wrote:



On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Jeff wrote:

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Ruslan Sivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
Tim Verhoeven wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Ruslan 
Sivak

<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

I successfully installed 
CentOS on 3ware 9650SE

controller.  Due to some
issues with compatibility with my motherboard, I
replaced it with a
9690SA.
Now the system won't boot (although interestingly
enough, it find the
boot
menu fine, just won't boot past a certain point in
the bootup phase.

I thought I would reinstall, but anaconda doesn't
find the raid array.
3ware does have drivers on their site, but I'm not
too sure how to get
them
on my system?

  That controller requires a 
newer version of the 3ware

driver. I'm
pretty sure the 5.2 will have that driver. So if you
can wait a bit
longer...

Regards,
Tim


For production use, I can, but 
currently we are testing

these servers, and I
would like to get them up and running.  Is there a way to
load a driver on
an already running system, or load it for anaconda?
 Something similar to F6
in windows?
 
Yes, anaconda supports the concept of a driver disk.



http://www.centos.org/docs/2/rhl-ig-as-x86-en-2.1/ch-driverdisk.html


And 3ware offers a disk image download for 9690SA/RHEL5.

Thank you.  I noticed that they said in the docs to 
install by

using linux dd.  3ware provides a zip file with the drivers, not a
disk image, AFAIK.  I burned the contents of the zip to a cd, but
anaconda fails to recognize it.  It keeps complaining about not
being able to find a fat or a ext3 filesystem on the driver disk.

I don't have a floppy drive, only a cdrom and a flash drive.  Do I
need to get a floppy drive in order for this to work?
Russ



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Perhaps you can download RHEL 5.2 from Red Hat Network, if you are a 
customer there will be no problem but if you're not, maybe you can 
sign out for 30 day trial and then download the ISOs, burn it and 
test your box and share your results, it will be enough time for 
CentOS 5.2 to be available, so then you can be sure to run a 
production system.


https://www.redhat.com/wapps/sso/rhn/login.html?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Frhn.redhat.com%2Frhn%2Fsoftware%2Fchannel%2Fdownloads%2FDownload.do%3Fcid=6949 



I got almost the same issue with an Asus mainboard...that's my 2 cents.


Cya.

Victor.


It's probably a good idea for me to know how to do this from 
scratch.  Plus I want to see if there's a difference in performance 
between the stock driver and the 3ware driver. I'm going to try 
giving 3ware a call to see how to install this.  Their support is 
usually excellent.


Russ
I don't think their driver is better, as they regularly refresh their 
driver to the kernel maintainers. It is just that the newer cards take 
a bit of time to get to the disk images.
Another thing you might be able to do is install to a drive that is 
not on the raid card and install their driver and migrate to the array.


I just looked at their website, and they do have a driver disk image. 
If you don't have a floppy, you can usually do a network install and 
get the driver disk image also from the network.

It is in the install docs I believe.




The ones on their standard download page are not compatible with Xen 
kernels according to the release notes.  The ones to be used for Xen 
kernels on x64 is this one: http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15257


That only has a zip file, not an image file.

Russ


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[CentOS] Re: 3Ware 9690SA

2008-06-06 Thread Scott Silva 

on 6-6-2008 10:48 AM Ruslan Sivak spake the following:

Victor Padro wrote:



On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Ruslan Sivak 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Jeff wrote:

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Ruslan Sivak 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> wrote:

Tim Verhoeven wrote:
  
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Ruslan Sivak
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:



I successfully installed CentOS on 3ware 9650SE

controller.  Due to some
issues with compatibility with my motherboard, I
replaced it with a
9690SA.
Now the system won't boot (although interestingly
enough, it find the
boot
menu fine, just won't boot past a certain point in
the bootup phase.

I thought I would reinstall, but anaconda doesn't
find the raid array.
3ware does have drivers on their site, but I'm not
too sure how to get
them
on my system?

  
That controller requires a newer version of the 3ware

driver. I'm
pretty sure the 5.2 will have that driver. So if you
can wait a bit
longer...

Regards,
Tim



For production use, I can, but currently we are testing

these servers, and I
would like to get them up and running.  Is there a way to
load a driver on
an already running system, or load it for anaconda?
 Something similar to F6
in windows?
  


Yes, anaconda supports the concept of a driver disk.


http://www.centos.org/docs/2/rhl-ig-as-x86-en-2.1/ch-driverdisk.html


And 3ware offers a disk image download for 9690SA/RHEL5.


Thank you.  I noticed that they said in the docs to install by

using linux dd.  3ware provides a zip file with the drivers, not a
disk image, AFAIK.  I burned the contents of the zip to a cd, but
anaconda fails to recognize it.  It keeps complaining about not
being able to find a fat or a ext3 filesystem on the driver disk.

I don't have a floppy drive, only a cdrom and a flash drive.  Do I
need to get a floppy drive in order for this to work?
Russ



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Perhaps you can download RHEL 5.2 from Red Hat Network, if you are a 
customer there will be no problem but if you're not, maybe you can 
sign out for 30 day trial and then download the ISOs, burn it and test 
your box and share your results, it will be enough time for CentOS 5.2 
to be available, so then you can be sure to run a production system.


https://www.redhat.com/wapps/sso/rhn/login.html?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Frhn.redhat.com%2Frhn%2Fsoftware%2Fchannel%2Fdownloads%2FDownload.do%3Fcid=6949 



I got almost the same issue with an Asus mainboard...that's my 2 cents.


Cya.

Victor.


It's probably a good idea for me to know how to do this from scratch.  
Plus I want to see if there's a difference in performance between the 
stock driver and the 3ware driver. I'm going to try giving 3ware a call 
to see how to install this.  Their support is usually excellent.


Russ
I don't think their driver is better, as they regularly refresh their driver 
to the kernel maintainers. It is just that the newer cards take a bit of time 
to get to the disk images.
Another thing you might be able to do is install to a drive that is not on the 
raid card and install their driver and migrate to the array.


I just looked at their website, and they do have a driver disk image. If you 
don't have a floppy, you can usually do a network install and get the driver 
disk image also from the network.

It is in the install docs I believe.

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