[CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-14 Thread Scott Silva

on 12/13/2007 6:43 PM Chris Mauritz spake the following:

Scott Silva wrote:


 evolution


Actually, if you're using Windows XP (32-bit), Evolution does work.  
At least according to these folks:


http://shellter.sourceforge.net/evolution/

Best,

After trying this, it doesn't work very well.

These aren't the droids we're looking for. You can go about your 
business. Move along. Move along.



I haven't actually tried it myself since I'm satisfied with 
Thunderbird.  What exactly was wrong with it?  I've never used Evolution 
(even on Linux) since it always seemed rather buggy to me.


I tried a quick install just to see and no matter how I tried to connect to 
my imap server, it kept throwing ssl errors, even without trying an encrypted 
connection. In no way could I connect and display messages or folders.

Then after uninstall, it left a lot of stuff behind, still running.
I think the creator made it just fit their requirements and stopped.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-14 Thread Craig White

On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 10:40 -0800, Scott Silva wrote:
 on 12/13/2007 6:43 PM Chris Mauritz spake the following:
  Scott Silva wrote:
 
   evolution
 
  Actually, if you're using Windows XP (32-bit), Evolution does work.  
  At least according to these folks:
 
  http://shellter.sourceforge.net/evolution/
 
  Best,
  After trying this, it doesn't work very well.
 
  These aren't the droids we're looking for. You can go about your 
  business. Move along. Move along.
  
  
  I haven't actually tried it myself since I'm satisfied with 
  Thunderbird.  What exactly was wrong with it?  I've never used Evolution 
  (even on Linux) since it always seemed rather buggy to me.
  
 I tried a quick install just to see and no matter how I tried to connect to 
 my imap server, it kept throwing ssl errors, even without trying an encrypted 
 connection. In no way could I connect and display messages or folders.
 Then after uninstall, it left a lot of stuff behind, still running.
 I think the creator made it just fit their requirements and stopped.

I've been using Evolution in various versions via CentOS, RHEL and
Fedora for years, always with an IMAP server and using TLS too. Note
that this e-mail (like all my e-mails whether from office or home) was
written with Evolution.

Never had an issue

The only feature that it seems to lack is support for namespaces such as
those offered by cyrus with shared folders.

Craig

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Re: [CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-14 Thread Timothy Selivanow

On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 11:53 -0700, Craig White wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 10:40 -0800, Scott Silva wrote:
  on 12/13/2007 6:43 PM Chris Mauritz spake the following:
   Scott Silva wrote:
  
evolution
  
   Actually, if you're using Windows XP (32-bit), Evolution does work.  
   At least according to these folks:
  
   http://shellter.sourceforge.net/evolution/
  
   Best,
   After trying this, it doesn't work very well.
  
   These aren't the droids we're looking for. You can go about your 
   business. Move along. Move along.
   
   
   I haven't actually tried it myself since I'm satisfied with 
   Thunderbird.  What exactly was wrong with it?  I've never used Evolution 
   (even on Linux) since it always seemed rather buggy to me.
   
  I tried a quick install just to see and no matter how I tried to connect 
  to 
  my imap server, it kept throwing ssl errors, even without trying an 
  encrypted 
  connection. In no way could I connect and display messages or folders.
  Then after uninstall, it left a lot of stuff behind, still running.
  I think the creator made it just fit their requirements and stopped.
 
 I've been using Evolution in various versions via CentOS, RHEL and
 Fedora for years, always with an IMAP server and using TLS too. Note
 that this e-mail (like all my e-mails whether from office or home) was
 written with Evolution.
 
 Never had an issue
 
 The only feature that it seems to lack is support for namespaces such as
 those offered by cyrus with shared folders.
 
 Craig


I agree with Craig's sentiment about Evolution + IMAP.  No problems.
Now, Evolution + Exchange Connector, that's a different story.  My mail
box at work is on Exchange, and at the moment that probably isn't going
to change.  I found the Exchange Connector to be too slow in versions
prior to 2.12 (inefficient recursive checking of mail in folders/shared
folders), but that 2.12 had it's own share of Exchange problems
(calendar messages were messed-up, *all* attachments came through as
that stoopid winmail.dat crap).

I've found that when dealing with Exchange and people on non-Windows
(even OSX w/o MS Office), you have two options:

1) Get rid of Exchange.  (IMO, preferable)

   -- or --

2) Enable IMAP, use what-ever client you want, and use OWA (Outlook Web
Access) for your calendaring.  (not perfect, but works)


Now, I've heard of rumours that someone is working on a native MAPI
plug-in for Evolution (Connector uses OWA's RPC-over-HTTP), but no ETA
as of yet.


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[CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-14 Thread Scott Silva

on 12/14/2007 10:53 AM Craig White spake the following:

On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 10:40 -0800, Scott Silva wrote:

on 12/13/2007 6:43 PM Chris Mauritz spake the following:

Scott Silva wrote:

evolution
Actually, if you're using Windows XP (32-bit), Evolution does work.  
At least according to these folks:


http://shellter.sourceforge.net/evolution/

Best,

After trying this, it doesn't work very well.

These aren't the droids we're looking for. You can go about your 
business. Move along. Move along.


I haven't actually tried it myself since I'm satisfied with 
Thunderbird.  What exactly was wrong with it?  I've never used Evolution 
(even on Linux) since it always seemed rather buggy to me.


I tried a quick install just to see and no matter how I tried to connect to 
my imap server, it kept throwing ssl errors, even without trying an encrypted 
connection. In no way could I connect and display messages or folders.

Then after uninstall, it left a lot of stuff behind, still running.
I think the creator made it just fit their requirements and stopped.


I've been using Evolution in various versions via CentOS, RHEL and
Fedora for years, always with an IMAP server and using TLS too. Note
that this e-mail (like all my e-mails whether from office or home) was
written with Evolution.

Never had an issue

The only feature that it seems to lack is support for namespaces such as
those offered by cyrus with shared folders.

Craig

I assure you, my negative was for the windows port mentioned above.
I just don't think it is quite ready for prime time yet. The native linux port 
I don't have a problem with.


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[CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-13 Thread Scott Silva

on 12/12/2007 9:41 PM Stewart, Craig spake the following:

evolution

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of James D. Parra
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:39 AM
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Subject: RE: [CentOS] What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?


Hi All,

I am looking for an open source email client package that is

equivalent to

MS OUTLOOK.




Try Thunderbird with the Calendar plug-in.
~James


No windows version that I am aware of.


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Re: [CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-13 Thread John R Pierce

Scott Silva wrote:

Try Thunderbird with the Calendar plug-in.


No windows version that I am aware of.





Hmmm?   I run Thunderbird on my Windows all the time.


However, I do believe the original poster is looking for something that 
supports Exchange Server, presumably in Exchange/Outlook native mode.
Good luck.   That is a proprietary RPC based server-side email system, 
in that mode its neither POP nor IMAP.Exchange Server can be 
configured to support POP and/or IMAP users, but then you lose all the 
groupware 'benefits' of Exchange.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-13 Thread Dennis McLeod

Scott Silva wrote:

on 12/12/2007 9:41 PM Stewart, Craig spake the following:

evolution

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of James D. Parra
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:39 AM
To: 'CentOS mailing list'
Subject: RE: [CentOS] What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?


Hi All,

I am looking for an open source email client package that is

equivalent to

MS OUTLOOK.




Try Thunderbird with the Calendar plug-in.
~James


No windows version that I am aware of.




Thunderbird 2 w/ Lightning (calendar plugin) on XP here..
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[CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-13 Thread Scott Silva

on 12/13/2007 11:05 AM John R Pierce spake the following:

Scott Silva wrote:

Try Thunderbird with the Calendar plug-in.


No windows version that I am aware of.





Hmmm?   I run Thunderbird on my Windows all the time.


But the top-posted part I replied to was about Evolution.

quote

 evolution

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

 Behalf Of James D. Parra
 Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:39 AM
 To: 'CentOS mailing list'
 Subject: RE: [CentOS] What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

 Hi All,

 I am looking for an open source email client package that is
 equivalent to
 MS OUTLOOK.

 

 Try Thunderbird with the Calendar plug-in.
 ~James

No windows version that I am aware of.

/quote




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Re: [CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Mauritz

Scott Silva wrote:

on 12/13/2007 11:05 AM John R Pierce spake the following:

Scott Silva wrote:

Try Thunderbird with the Calendar plug-in.


No windows version that I am aware of.





Hmmm?   I run Thunderbird on my Windows all the time.


But the top-posted part I replied to was about Evolution.

quote

 evolution


Actually, if you're using Windows XP (32-bit), Evolution does work.  At 
least according to these folks:


http://shellter.sourceforge.net/evolution/

Best,

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RE: [CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-13 Thread James D. Parra
on 12/13/2007 11:05 AM John R Pierce spake the following:
 Scott Silva wrote:
 Try Thunderbird with the Calendar plug-in.

 No windows version that I am aware of.


 
 
 Hmmm?   I run Thunderbird on my Windows all the time.
 
But the top-posted part I replied to was about Evolution.

quote

  evolution
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of James D. Parra
  Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:39 AM
  To: 'CentOS mailing list'
  Subject: RE: [CentOS] What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?
 
  Hi All,
 
  I am looking for an open source email client package that is
  equivalent to
  MS OUTLOOK.
 
  
 
  Try Thunderbird with the Calendar plug-in.
  ~James

No windows version that I am aware of.

/quote
``

There is a windows version that runs on XP only.
http://shellter.sourceforge.net/evolution/


Although, I have had good success with Thunderbird.

~James


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[CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-13 Thread Scott Silva

on 12/13/2007 11:55 AM Chris Mauritz spake the following:

Scott Silva wrote:

on 12/13/2007 11:05 AM John R Pierce spake the following:

Scott Silva wrote:

Try Thunderbird with the Calendar plug-in.


No windows version that I am aware of.





Hmmm?   I run Thunderbird on my Windows all the time.


But the top-posted part I replied to was about Evolution.

quote

 evolution


Actually, if you're using Windows XP (32-bit), Evolution does work.  At 
least according to these folks:


http://shellter.sourceforge.net/evolution/

Best,

I stand corrected. A google search didn't hit that for me.

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[CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-13 Thread Scott Silva

on 12/13/2007 11:55 AM Chris Mauritz spake the following:

Scott Silva wrote:

on 12/13/2007 11:05 AM John R Pierce spake the following:

Scott Silva wrote:

Try Thunderbird with the Calendar plug-in.


No windows version that I am aware of.





Hmmm?   I run Thunderbird on my Windows all the time.


But the top-posted part I replied to was about Evolution.

quote

 evolution


Actually, if you're using Windows XP (32-bit), Evolution does work.  At 
least according to these folks:


http://shellter.sourceforge.net/evolution/

Best,

After trying this, it doesn't work very well.

These aren't the droids we're looking for. You can go about your business. 
Move along. Move along.



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Re: [CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Mauritz

Scott Silva wrote:


 evolution


Actually, if you're using Windows XP (32-bit), Evolution does work.  
At least according to these folks:


http://shellter.sourceforge.net/evolution/

Best,

After trying this, it doesn't work very well.

These aren't the droids we're looking for. You can go about your 
business. Move along. Move along.



I haven't actually tried it myself since I'm satisfied with 
Thunderbird.  What exactly was wrong with it?  I've never used Evolution 
(even on Linux) since it always seemed rather buggy to me.


Best,

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Re: [CentOS] Re: What is equivalent to MS OUTLOOK ?

2007-12-13 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Dennis McLeod wrote:
...
 Thunderbird 2 w/ Lightning (calendar plugin) on XP here..

BTW, why can't I install lightning on a centos 5.1 x86_64 machine?

If I download it from:

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/releases/0.7/contrib/linux-x86-64/

it says that the architecture Linux-x86_64-gcc3 is wrong.

It works on Fedora 7 x86_64.

I even tried building lightning from source, same error when installing
in thunderbird.

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