Re: [CentOS] Re: kernels and irc
On 6/5/08, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Silva wrote: on 6-5-2008 8:30 AM James Bunnell spake the following: i do pay for rhel. i made the mistake of converting to centos. damage is done. on the next major upgrade, i will return to rhel and will not professionally recommend centos either privately,personally, or in the realm of a business. thanks for seeing my side of the issue and not jumping on the elite bandwagon. i am done. No wonder you were banned on #irc. I personally am more than happy to wait. I came here from Whitebox linux, and it is even slower there. One person is doing what the entire team is doing here. I also know that if I am in that big of a hurry, I can down the src rpms and start building... But I won't. Johnny, Karanbir, Russ, Seth, Dag, Jim, Donavan, and every one else on the team that I most surely missed... You do a bang up job, and our thanks go to your tireless and mostly unpaid contributions to this project! If I have to wait a week or a month for a new release... so be it. The security updates are what is most important, and those come very quickly. I second that! I totally agree I am the sysadmin for a *very* small company which we operate in the free time outside of our normal jobs as addiction medics. Our profit levels are so low that we cannot justify a RH support contract *because* CentOS exists. Of all the *many* mailing-lists that i am on i find the CentOS (and the linux-poweredge list from Dell) to be the most polite and informative. If i ever get to deploy my parachute and exit the NHS then i am really looking forward to lurking on the irc chans as well (pesky NHS firewall and aup). Our production server will be installed into NHS Lothian's network once 5.2 comes out and i am *more* than happy with the It'll be done when it's done answer. Thanks again for all the work that you guys do! mike ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: kernels and irc
on 6-5-2008 8:30 AM James Bunnell spake the following: On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 09:57 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: James Bunnell wrote: I was in the #centos-social channel and simply stated that I noticed CentOS 3-4 were getting a lot of updates. I also stated that the CentOS 5 was one kernel behind, as in RHEL it is at -53, the gentlemen then told me that I was wrong and it was at -21. I then asked if there was a way to get a progress report somehow on 5.2, and that 5.2 has already upgraded that kernel. The result was that I was banned for being correct. I dont understand this kind of support. You are NOT correct ... The latest NON 5.2 kernel is: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Client/en/os/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.src.rpm looks like -53 to me The latest 5.2 kernel is: ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Client/en/os/SRPMS/kernel-2.6.18-92.1.1.el5.src.rpm this is a new kernel as of today, may 22 compilation date As far as being banned on an IRC Channel ... I am sure you were warned first. CentOS is manned by volunteers. If you want to argue with the people who are on IRC after they tell you not to, then you will be banned. yes i was warned, however, can they not admit when they are wrong? and because its volunteers (like debian), all the more reason to be professional. The CentOS project trusts the judgment of our forum moderators and our IRC ops ... if they ban you then you are banned. We are not a for profit company where you pay us for service and can be disrespectful to our employees. You will instead have to be polite in your disagreements. i have been polite for weeks. i finally had a enough of being polite and just being told, 'it will be release when its ready.' that is not a professional answer. is it too much to ask for an update? If this is a problem, I suggest that you find a paid for service contract where you can be rude to the people with whom you interact. i do pay for rhel. i made the mistake of converting to centos. damage is done. on the next major upgrade, i will return to rhel and will not professionally recommend centos either privately,personally, or in the realm of a business. thanks for seeing my side of the issue and not jumping on the elite bandwagon. i am done. No wonder you were banned on #irc. I personally am more than happy to wait. I came here from Whitebox linux, and it is even slower there. One person is doing what the entire team is doing here. I also know that if I am in that big of a hurry, I can down the src rpms and start building... But I won't. Johnny, Karanbir, Russ, Seth, Dag, Jim, Donavan, and every one else on the team that I most surely missed... You do a bang up job, and our thanks go to your tireless and mostly unpaid contributions to this project! If I have to wait a week or a month for a new release... so be it. The security updates are what is most important, and those come very quickly. Again ... Thank you all! -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Re: kernels and irc
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, James Bunnell wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 18:36 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: James Bunnell wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 17:00 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On May 22 it was estimated that it would take 3 weeks. Did you really need an update on that? i only asked. an answer such as what was given here earlier would have sufficed. is that so hard? But it is the same answer you already had! ok, let's look at this differently. if i were looking for a answer to these things from a standpoint of wanting to help, or pointing out something that may be perceived differently somewhere else such as the 'well they are updating 3-4, why not 5'...how is that to be construed? i think that deserves more than an aggressive response such as what happened on irc. Not for nothin but I thought about 200 messages ago you said you were done? PLEASE do not answer that. Silence would be the best answer. Regards, -- Tom Diehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spamtrap address [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Re: kernels and irc
Scott Silva wrote: on 6-5-2008 8:30 AM James Bunnell spake the following: i do pay for rhel. i made the mistake of converting to centos. damage is done. on the next major upgrade, i will return to rhel and will not professionally recommend centos either privately,personally, or in the realm of a business. thanks for seeing my side of the issue and not jumping on the elite bandwagon. i am done. No wonder you were banned on #irc. I personally am more than happy to wait. I came here from Whitebox linux, and it is even slower there. One person is doing what the entire team is doing here. I also know that if I am in that big of a hurry, I can down the src rpms and start building... But I won't. Johnny, Karanbir, Russ, Seth, Dag, Jim, Donavan, and every one else on the team that I most surely missed... You do a bang up job, and our thanks go to your tireless and mostly unpaid contributions to this project! If I have to wait a week or a month for a new release... so be it. The security updates are what is most important, and those come very quickly. I second that! Besides I am in no hurry to start the whole change management process again. Feels like I just finished upgrading to 5.1 ... Oh wait, I did! -Ross __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
