Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, April 2, 2014 20:56, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 03:59:26PM -0700, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:17:02PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> > >> > WTF - there is a reason the "-f" flag exists - RTFM >> > > > Please ignore and do not respond to this person; he's not a member of > the list and is using nefarious methods to post to it. > Background: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2013-May/011982.html -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
"Frank M. Ramaekers" a écrit : > rm: unrecognized option `--backup=numbered' > Try `rm ./'--backup=numbered'' to remove the file `--backup=numbered'. > Try `rm --help' for more information. > > Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. > Damn, tested it with a path/file before sending a mail, didn’t think it would break without…lesson learned :) Laurent ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 06:13:05PM -0700, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: > I don't know. I couldn't reproduce the behavior today: If you are able to duplicate the original behavior please let us, or at least me, know. I am curious as to what may have transpired that caused the initial problem. John -- In today's online world, what your mother told you is true, only more so: people really can judge you by your friends. -- Harold Abelson, MIT computer science professor, on personal information that can be gleaned from social networking sites, NY Times, 17 March 2010 pgpbV5AD8WyOm.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:59:28PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:46:51PM -0700, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: > > > > This issue is all about shell interpretation--before the command > > string even gets to the command. > > Apparently zsh handles this differently from what was stated here > earlier. If this is indeed the case this is arguably a zsh bug. > I don't know. I couldn't reproduce the behavior today: [benfell@munich]~% print $SHELL /bin/zsh [benfell@munich]~% touch -- --DoingMyselfIn [benfell@munich]~% ls -al -- --DoingMyselfIn -rw-rw-r-- 1 benfell benfell 0 Apr 2 18:10 --DoingMyselfIn [benfell@munich]~% rm -- --DoingMyselfIn [benfell@munich]~% ls -al -- --DoingMyselfIn ls: cannot access --DoingMyselfIn: No such file or directory [benfell@munich]~% -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpRaowLNoy56.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:46:51PM -0700, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: > > This issue is all about shell interpretation--before the command > string even gets to the command. Actually, yes and no. Some commands, notably those using the GNU getopt() family, understand the concept of "--" ending _all_ argument parsing and anything after being a parameter and not a command argument. Apparently zsh handles this differently from what was stated here earlier. If this is indeed the case this is arguably a zsh bug. > Should I always strip the cc when posting to this list? Nah, just lease Reindl off :) John -- Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor. -- Truman Capote (1924-1984), American writer, Portraits and Observations, The Essays of Truman Capote, "Self Portrait" (1972) pgpFO154rvd6o.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 03:59:26PM -0700, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:17:02PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > WTF - there is a reason the "-f" flag exists - RTFM > > > I don't know what manual you're reading. But -f has a specific > function and *this* *isn't* *it*. Please ignore and do not respond to this person; he's not a member of the list and is using nefarious methods to post to it. John -- Space isn't remote at all. It's only an hour's drive away if your car could go straight upwards. -- Fred Hoyle (1915-2001), British astronomer and science fiction author, "Sayings of the Week", The Observer (9 September 1979) pgpOQdczfTgpg.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 06:04:00PM -0500, Jim Perrin wrote: > > Don't feed the trolls, and be careful of the CC. He's not on the > mailing list proper for a reason. > My apologies. I did not realize. But of course you're right. This issue is all about shell interpretation--before the command string even gets to the command. Should I always strip the cc when posting to this list? -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpd9pphFkzaT.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/2014 05:59 PM, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:17:02PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> WTF - there is a reason the "-f" flag exists - RTFM >> > I don't know what manual you're reading. But -f has a specific > function and *this* *isn't* *it*. > Don't feed the trolls, and be careful of the CC. He's not on the mailing list proper for a reason. - -- Jim Perrin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org twitter: @BitIntegrity | GPG Key: FA09AD77 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTPJdgAAoJEBbHyC76Ca13dscQAJ4V87lMohD+QN6gBsBzrokj JkS/zrGPAgA1B1Fs2DL7eGWrrBmXzPzdlgFiIKG+5YZyJowTVd/Kwfd034UVCP2+ 4etcj3Tq2yveNobLXbDa5SMmiRohAm7vOZ+ngwYOLki4MemX0SfrS1mO3FeBkhC5 syLr2acz0oAJufPZM03VMJnbTAlUB0pa1Xk2vX+SpNCG2ISQe3Z0rEUJjiq/CaHv Q48hNsHoXjcLrRpPlu7chOmtEa32Woldh/xkwm9AF/gKql5AXscXjjez/0gxETGG /DNdOmrUx+CfR5kIOWnfa5PyW9wJL02kX6KTOgL/8Tz7FEmQ655JGazJEDkSfh9k 45DModiEqtYRJPNyaswSy3sI1ZJB1l/5pExH9RbgEsNRGliRarRN4KRjpuiuXcJd +jpSyUy9PXtDKA8mfkLcwckJDHYfr6yKxvPRvSRr8q3VMNzR1QIwg/0otbPO4hvw i/6YDYmOHJwSBzO+FAMFnEwwRldEZHatCQlu5LtG88HXMZNorYq8dplwvWlDDOnr GCn2bKsmaph1JfcRVu1/FIsfY9YlUz7R1Wu3rC8E/jRJ73jBbOAKjgjSBuiwTx4F nkDexxEYHfq3Mzed3HhtlgUZPXXxcIC7TU++GAywlLrKqXJ9t/81hGgw40u68zuX Lag4Bxh8uthHJrbbyogX =AeUP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:17:02PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > WTF - there is a reason the "-f" flag exists - RTFM > I don't know what manual you're reading. But -f has a specific function and *this* *isn't* *it*. -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpV5XyoEgnkD.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 02:23:07PM -0700, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:16:51PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: > > > > What shell are you using? Perhaps that is interfering. > > > Ah. Good point. I've been using zsh for so long I forget it's even an > issue. ;-) :) John -- What happened should never, ever have happened. The families of those who died should not have had to live with the pain and hurt of that day, and a lifetime of loss. -- Prime Minister David Cameron of Britain, apologizing for the Bloody Sunday killings of 14 unarmed demonstrators by British soldiers in Londonderry, Northern Ireland, in 1972, New York Times, 16 June 2010 pgp_aS7otCDg8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 04:16:51PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: > > What shell are you using? Perhaps that is interfering. > Ah. Good point. I've been using zsh for so long I forget it's even an issue. ;-) -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgpOdZFUjGdN0.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 02:05:08PM -0700, benf...@parts-unknown.org wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:51:41AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > > rm: unrecognized option `--backup=numbered' > > Try `rm ./'--backup=numbered'' to remove the file `--backup=numbered'. > > This is what's worked for me. I know the double dash is supposed to > stop interpretation of arguments, but it hasn't worked for me. I do not post solutions unless they work: tty3 jrd@frodo:/tmp/jrd$ ls -l total 0 -rw-rw-r--. 1 jrd jrd 0 Apr 2 16:14 --silly-file-name tty3 jrd@frodo:/tmp/jrd$ rm -- --silly-file-name rm: remove regular empty file `--silly-file-name'? y tty3 jrd@frodo:/tmp/jrd$ ls tty3 jrd@frodo:/tmp/jrd$ What shell are you using? Perhaps that is interfering. John -- The most valuable thing you can make is a mistake - you can't learn anything from being perfect. -- Adam Osborne (1939-2003), American entrepreneur pgpfWQY4_Lda1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:51:41AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > rm: unrecognized option `--backup=numbered' > Try `rm ./'--backup=numbered'' to remove the file `--backup=numbered'. This is what's worked for me. I know the double dash is supposed to stop interpretation of arguments, but it hasn't worked for me. -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. pgphc9TKNIsHF.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On 04/02/14 10:51, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
> Method 1: try rm \-\-backup\=numbered
> Method 2, that will *ALWAYS* work:
> ls -i
> then, using the inode number
> find . -inum -exec rm {} \;
>
> The latter method is the one guaranteed to take care of all kinds of
> filenames with weird, or unprintable, stuff in the name.
>
> mark
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Use rm -i *
It will usually catch the file and because it's a special character it
and many other odd ball file names usually appear in the very beginning
so you don't have to go through the entire list.
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Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:51:41AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > rm: unrecognized option `--backup=numbered' > Try `rm ./'--backup=numbered'' to remove the file `--backup=numbered'. > Try `rm --help' for more information. This is one of the oldest of oldest of Unix FAQs eg http://fisica.ehu.es/ref/unixfaq.html#2.1 -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
rm: unrecognized option `--backup=numbered' Try `rm ./'--backup=numbered'' to remove the file `--backup=numbered'. Try `rm --help' for more information. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. > -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf Of Laurent Wandrebeck > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:48 AM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes > > > "Frank M. Ramaekers" a écrit : > > > How can I remove this file? > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 28707 Mar 31 12:31 --backup=numbered > rm "--backup=numbered" > > HTH, > Laurent. > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:
> How can I remove this file?
>
> -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 28707 Mar 31 12:31 --backup=numbered
>
> I've tried a few different methods, but most attempts interprets the
> file name as a switch (which it doesn't understand).
Method 1: try rm \-\-backup\=numbered
Method 2, that will *ALWAYS* work:
ls -i
then, using the inode number
find . -inum -exec rm {} \;
The latter method is the one guaranteed to take care of all kinds of
filenames with weird, or unprintable, stuff in the name.
mark
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Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
Ahhh...that's the ticket! Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. > -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf Of John R. Dennison > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 9:48 AM > To: centos@centos.org > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:44:57AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > > How can I remove this file? > > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 28707 Mar 31 12:31 --backup=numbered > > > > > > > > I've tried a few different methods, but most attempts interprets the > > file name as a switch (which it doesn't understand). > > rm -- --backup=numbered > > -- stops the processing of command line arguments so any file name after will > be interpreted literally. > > > > > John > -- > "Worry never robs tomorrow of its sorrow, it only saps today of its joy." > > ~~ Leo Buscaglia ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
It is possible. Mask the - by putting a \ or / in front ot it. Or try: rm ./-filename On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > How can I remove this file? > > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 28707 Mar 31 12:31 --backup=numbered > > > > I've tried a few different methods, but most attempts interprets the > file name as a switch (which it doesn't understand). > > > > TIA, > > Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. | Systems Programmer | Information Technology | > American Income Life Insurance Company | 254-761-6649 > > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- - Hal Wigoda Chicago ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
rm -f "\--backup=numered" Regards Roberto -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Frank M. Ramaekers Sent: miércoles, 02 de abril de 2014 11:45 To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes How can I remove this file? -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 28707 Mar 31 12:31 --backup=numbered I've tried a few different methods, but most attempts interprets the file name as a switch (which it doesn't understand). TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. | Systems Programmer | Information Technology | American Income Life Insurance Company | 254-761-6649 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
"Frank M. Ramaekers" a écrit : > How can I remove this file? > > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 28707 Mar 31 12:31 --backup=numbered rm "--backup=numbered" HTH, Laurent. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 09:44:57AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: > How can I remove this file? > > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 28707 Mar 31 12:31 --backup=numbered > > > > I've tried a few different methods, but most attempts interprets the > file name as a switch (which it doesn't understand). rm -- --backup=numbered -- stops the processing of command line arguments so any file name after will be interpreted literally. John -- "Worry never robs tomorrow of its sorrow, it only saps today of its joy." ~~ Leo Buscaglia pgpFPupekjSnM.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Removing a file that starts with dashes
How can I remove this file? -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 28707 Mar 31 12:31 --backup=numbered I've tried a few different methods, but most attempts interprets the file name as a switch (which it doesn't understand). TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. | Systems Programmer | Information Technology | American Income Life Insurance Company | 254-761-6649 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
