Re: [CentOS] Slightly OT? - How do I set up Win98 to access a printer on my CentOS box?

2008-05-05 Thread John R Pierce

Mark Hull-Richter wrote:

I can ping the CentOS host by IP address and, now that there's a hosts
file, by host name as well.  However, Win98 can't see the network at all
- claims there isn't one.  It is running the M$ client for M$ networks
(and for NetBIOS networks, as well), but the network is not getting
properly initialized.  And now we are definitely sliding OT here (is
there a forum where and answer to this can be found?).
  


Win98 uses a much older version of Microsoft Networking.   it works 
strictly on the old NBT ports 135/137/138/139 and not the newer native 
SMB port 445 stuff that XP etc use.   You need to make sure Samba is 
configured to support this retroactive stuff.  I believe it also has to 
support an older LM Hash or something for passwords (LM means LAN 
Manager, which is what SMB networking grew out of).   And, you probably 
will want to setup WINS, where the SAMBA server can be a WINS server, 
and ALL SMB clients should be configured to reference this WINS server 
by its IP, that takes care of SMB host resolutions much better than 
messing with lmhosts files.


btw, hosts.sam is just a 'sample' file.windows uses HOSTS for tcp 
name resolution (much like unix), and uses lmhosts for LM Netbios 
resolutions.  format is similar, and there's some fuzzy crossover 
between these which makes troubleshooting fun.





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RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT? - How do I set up Win98 to access a printer on my CentOS box?

2008-05-04 Thread Mark Hull-Richter
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 15:54 -0600, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
 However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be
 able to print on the CentOS printer.  When I try to connect to the
 printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...?
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Possibly name resolution issues on the Win98 box?

There was no hosts file - I edited the hosts.sam (sample) file and added
both machines to it.  But there must be more.

 Can you resolve a ping using the exact hostname you use for the printer

I can ping the CentOS host by IP address and, now that there's a hosts
file, by host name as well.  However, Win98 can't see the network at all
- claims there isn't one.  It is running the M$ client for M$ networks
(and for NetBIOS networks, as well), but the network is not getting
properly initialized.  And now we are definitely sliding OT here (is
there a forum where and answer to this can be found?).

 (I assume the CentOS box emulates a Lanman printer? Never printed on a CentOS 
 box...).
 
'fraid I don't know what that means - the printer is just available to
be shared via samba and so should be visible on a M$ network (like in
the XP guest?).

I'm going to be playing with the Windows box RSN - when I'm done with
it, it will have Win98, XP Pro and, of course, CentOS, but there's a
fair amount of work to be done before that will work.

mhr


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[CentOS] Slightly OT? - How do I set up Win98 to access a printer on my CentOS box?

2008-05-02 Thread MHR
I have a WinXP guest under VMWare on my CentOS 5.1 host and it can
access the CentOS printer(s) just fine.

However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be
able to print on the CentOS printer.  When I try to connect to the
printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...?

Any suggestions?

(This slightly really is - it _is_ directly related to CentOS,
unlike my previous FC8 post)

Thanks.

mhr
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RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT? - How do I set up Win98 to access a printer on my CentOS box?

2008-05-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be
able to print on the CentOS printer.  When I try to connect to the
printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...?

Any suggestions?

Possibly name resolution issues on the Win98 box? Can you resolve a ping using 
the exact hostname you use for the printer (I assume the CentOS box emulates a 
Lanman printer? Never printed on a CentOS box...).

jlc
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