[CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
I have a 1.5TB Western Digital hard disk (WD15EADS-00R6B0)
on my CentOS-5.7 server, which has become incredibly slow
for some operations, eg rsync, BackupPC archive, e2fsck,
although it seems to work fine for ordinary file operations,
and smartctl -a /dev/sdb does not report any errors.

For example, running e2fsck -p /dev/sdb5 on a 250GB partition
on this disk took over 24 hours to complete,
as it did on another partition.

I wonder if anyone can offer an explanation,
or suggest a remedy?


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Re: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread Ilyas --
Just check smart table:

smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sdX

Sometimes disk work very slowly without any visible reason. In this
case just replace your disk.



On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
 I have a 1.5TB Western Digital hard disk (WD15EADS-00R6B0)
 on my CentOS-5.7 server, which has become incredibly slow
 for some operations, eg rsync, BackupPC archive, e2fsck,
 although it seems to work fine for ordinary file operations,
 and smartctl -a /dev/sdb does not report any errors.

 For example, running e2fsck -p /dev/sdb5 on a 250GB partition
 on this disk took over 24 hours to complete,
 as it did on another partition.

 I wonder if anyone can offer an explanation,
 or suggest a remedy?


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 e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
 tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin


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Re: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread Ho Chaw Ming
Check your bios, and make sure that you did not have IDE mode enabled and
AHCI is selected .

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Subject: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

I have a 1.5TB Western Digital hard disk (WD15EADS-00R6B0) on my CentOS-5.7
server, which has become incredibly slow for some operations, eg rsync,
BackupPC archive, e2fsck, although it seems to work fine for ordinary file
operations, and smartctl -a /dev/sdb does not report any errors.

For example, running e2fsck -p /dev/sdb5 on a 250GB partition on this disk
took over 24 hours to complete, as it did on another partition.

I wonder if anyone can offer an explanation, or suggest a remedy?


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e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin


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Re: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread fred smith
On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 10:24:00PM +0800, Ho Chaw Ming wrote:
 Check your bios, and make sure that you did not have IDE mode enabled and
 AHCI is selected .

Also, is this one of the Green series of WD disks? Those have 
a 4KB sector size, not the old/traditional 512B sector size. This has
performance ramifications in that you must have partitions begin on
a sector boundary or performance goes to the dogs. There are a number
of articles about it on various geek sites, sorry I can't point you
to one offhand.


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Re: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/04/11 11:08 AM, fred smith wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 10:24:00PM +0800, Ho Chaw Ming wrote:
   Check your bios, and make sure that you did not have IDE mode enabled and
   AHCI is selected .
 Also, is this one of the Green series of WD disks? Those have
 a 4KB sector size, not the old/traditional 512B sector size. This has
 performance ramifications in that you must have partitions begin on
 a sector boundary or performance goes to the dogs. There are a number
 of articles about it on various geek sites, sorry I can't point you
 to one offhand.

many newer disks use this same 4k internal sectoring.  the drives still 
*look* like they have 512 byte sectors to the outside world, but its 
very important for performance to get your partitions properly aligned 
on a 4k boundary, and ideally your file system uses 4K (or multiple of 
4k) as its block size.

sadly, the default fake CHS (cylinder head sector) mapping left over 
from legacy PC architectures ends up with a 255 512b sector 'track', and 
MBR partitioning defaults to using track or cylinder boundaries, so the 
first partition starts at an odd location if you use legacy tools like 
fdisk.


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Re: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread Robert Nichols
On 12/04/2011 01:08 PM, fred smith wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 10:24:00PM +0800, Ho Chaw Ming wrote:
 Check your bios, and make sure that you did not have IDE mode enabled and
 AHCI is selected .

 Also, is this one of the Green series of WD disks? Those have
 a 4KB sector size, not the old/traditional 512B sector size. This has
 performance ramifications in that you must have partitions begin on
 a sector boundary or performance goes to the dogs. There are a number
 of articles about it on various geek sites, sorry I can't point you
 to one offhand.

The WDxxEADS drives have 512B sectors, _not_ 4KB sectors.

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Re: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Timothy Murphy wrote:

 Check your bios, and make sure that you did not have IDE mode enabled and
 AHCI is selected .
 
 Thanks for your response, and for the others received.
 
 But I should have pointed out that the slow operation
 has only started recently, in the last week or so,
 after working normally since I acquired the disk a year or so ago.

To add to the mystery, I just checked with hdparm,
and the speed of the disk (as measured this way) seems normal,
compared with various other disks:
---
The slow disk
[tim@helen ~]$ sudo hdparm -t /dev/sdb
/dev/sdb:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  168 MB in  3.00 seconds =  55.98 MB/sec
---
Another disk on the same machine
[tim@blanche ~]$ sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
 Timing buffered disk reads: 146 MB in  3.01 seconds =  48.57 MB/sec
---
An external hard disk attached to the same machine
[tim@helen ~]$ sudo hdparm -t /dev/sdc

/dev/sdc:
 Timing buffered disk reads:   54 MB in  3.03 seconds =  17.80 MB/sec
---

I have Windows XP on another partition.
I don't think I've ever used it
(I always install Windows if it is not already on the machine,
as I've had a couple of occasions when it has saved my life).
I'll see how fast (or slow) Windows backup goes.

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Re: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread Alan McKay
Those are slowish times even for a 7200rpm disk.   My desktop here at
home (Ubuntu) has a slow 7200 drive and hdparam reports a lot faster
than that.   Well, it is a Caviar Green drive which means that 7200
is the fastest speed but it does spin slower too.

amckay@amckay-desktop:~$ sudo !!
sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda
[sudo] password for amckay:

/dev/sda:
 Timing buffered disk reads: 244 MB in  3.01 seconds =  81.10 MB/sec
amckay@amckay-desktop:~$




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Re: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread Alan McKay
You have not said anything yet in this thread about defragging that drive.

I just checked your original message and your drive is the exact same
as mine except yours is the 1.5 TB version and mine is 1.0.

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Re: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread Alan McKay
Also - boot a live Linux CD and then from there do hdparam again and
compare results,   If they differ vastly at least you know it is
something in your running system which is the culprit.  If they are
roughly the same then it is likely the drive gone bad.  Though check
the man page for hdparam to see if disk fragmentation will affect the
results it gives.


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Re: [CentOS] Strangely slow disk

2011-12-04 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
On Sunday 04 December 2011 19:38, Timothy Murphy wrote:

 The slow disk
 [tim@helen ~]$ sudo hdparm -t /dev/sdb
 /dev/sdb:
  Timing buffered disk reads:  168 MB in  3.00 seconds =  55.98 MB/sec
 ---
 Another disk on the same machine
 [tim@blanche ~]$ sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda
 /dev/sda:
  Timing buffered disk reads: 146 MB in  3.01 seconds =  48.57 MB/sec

Here are my results with a PATA drive and a SATA drive:

[root@poontang ~]# hdparm -t /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  172 MB in  3.02 seconds =  56.97 MB/sec
[root@poontang ~]# hdparm -t /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  300 MB in  3.01 seconds =  99.66 MB/sec

Your results are similar to what I get with my PATA drive, so I agree 
with Ho Chaw Ming that you should check that AHCI is selected.

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