Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
> did anyone give insight into the OP question, or is this just email > bashing class 099 ? It was answered, thanks. The offending disclaimer message is gone now. How does this Sig file look gentlemen? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
on 1-22-2009 2:43 PM Michael St. Laurent spake the following: >>> What is the status of i7 architecture support for CentOS-5? Do the >>> latest updates support it? > >> according to the upstream notes wait for 5.3 > > Is there a projected release date for CentOS-5.3? > Sometime in the future. Could you get your suits to add a space after the double dash? That way e-mail clients can auto remove it on reply -- MailScanner is like deodorant... You hope everybody uses it, and you notice quickly if they don't signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Michael St. Laurent wrote: > What is the status of i7 architecture support for CentOS-5? Do the > latest updates support it? > We have one box i7 with CentOS 5.2 here. It works very well ;-) > uname -a Linux xxx 2.6.18-92.1.22.el5 #1 SMP Tue Dec 16 11:57:43 EST 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz > cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5.2 (Final) -- http://vnoss.org ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
did anyone give insight into the OP question, or is this just email bashing class 099 ? :-o - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
It is trivial to create an initrd for the installer which has support the x58 chipset. If you would like my copy which also works with atom boards just e-mail me off-list. -Drew -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Michael St. Laurent Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:18 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture? What is the status of i7 architecture support for CentOS-5? Do the latest updates support it? -- This e-mail may contain technical information which is controlled by the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic & Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical data is limited to US Legal Residents only. It is the responsibility of the organization and individual in control of this data to abide by US export laws. If you are not a US Legal Resident, immediately forward this e-mail to not...@hartwellcorp.com or reply to sender without reading any further. Take no other action with this e-mail until contacted. Notice: The information in this document and document itself, in whole or in part, in any form ("Information") is proprietary and/or confidential property of Hartwell Corporation, Placentia, California. Hartwell Corporation and its successors and assignees retain and reserve all right, title and interest in this information in whole or in part and in all forms. This Information is provided to the original recipient only for confidential use, with the understanding that it will not be used in any manner detrimental to the interests of Hartwell Corporation, and subject to return on request. Reproduction, transmission, distribution or publication of this Information in any form, in whole or in part, for any purpose without prior written permission of Hartwell Corporation is strictly prohibited. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:10:19 +0100 Rainer Duffner wrote: > Sheesh! > > > > > WTF? > Do you want him to have his email-account suspended? > Please, folks, be a little more insightful and not so quick with the > email-button. As I see it, that big write-up either means what it says or it does not. If it means what it says, then it appears that the mailserver the OP is using should not be used to post messages to a public, international mailing list. If a user was misusing a mailserver that I was responsible for, I would want to know about it. Any responsible admin would want the same. If it does not mean what it says, then including that kind of a write-up in an email is merely a waste of everyone's bandwidth which, when aggregated over the number of people who subscribe to this mailing list probably adds up to several megabytes. Of unnecessary data that nobody, not even the OP's company, believes. And some people still pay by the byte for their Internet connections. Plus the additional disk space that's required for list archives here and there around the world. By my count, the OP's original message was composed of two lines of content and 27 lines of "warning". That's a signal-to-noise ratio of less than 7%. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
> > I have helped by sending money. I don't know if that counts or not > > though. > > > Money is very nice and it does count and it does help. Hopefully, your > companies money and not your own... No need to lurk. Yes, it's money from the fools who insist on the stupid disclaimer. Justice of a sort? ;) -- This e-mail may contain technical information which is controlled by the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic & Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical data is limited to US Legal Residents only. It is the responsibility of the organization and individual in control of this data to abide by US export laws. If you are not a US Legal Resident, immediately forward this e-mail to not...@hartwellcorp.com or reply to sender without reading any further. Take no other action with this e-mail until contacted. Notice: The information in this document and document itself, in whole or in part, in any form ("Information") is proprietary and/or confidential property of Hartwell Corporation, Placentia, California. Hartwell Corporation and its successors and assignees retain and reserve all right, title and interest in this information in whole or in part and in all forms. This Information is provided to the original recipient only for confidential use, with the understanding that it will not be used in any manner detrimental to the interests of Hartwell Corporation, and subject to return on request. Reproduction, transmission, distribution or publication of this Information in any form, in whole or in part, for any purpose without prior written permission of Hartwell Corporation is strictly prohibited. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Michael St. Laurent wrote: >> > Is there a projected release date for CentOS-5.3? >> > >> hedidnotask...this >> >> search the forums..when it's done..unless you would like to help..:) > > I have helped by sending money. I don't know if that counts or not > though. > Money is very nice and it does count and it does help. Hopefully, your companies money and not your own... No need to lurk. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
Miguel Medalha wrote: > Well, you must concede that it is *somewhat* ridiculous to read a > one-line innocent email containing a twelve-line dense disclaimer... Yes, but it is not his fault. Now let us all laugh at his employer and be finished with it. Other people in here cannot trim their replies or open a new thread for every mail they send. Ralph pgpdy8aTe9Nle.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
Michael St. Laurent wrote: > > > Is there a projected release date for CentOS-5.3? > > > > > > > > hedidnotask...this > > > > search the forums..when it's done..unless you would like to help..:) > > I have helped by sending money. I don't know if that counts or not > though. Sure does and thank you for that. But just as you don't mention the Reinemachefrau in front of the Nazi chief in "Dead men don't wear plaid", you don't ask when the next release comes out here. Someone might go berzerk. Cheers, Ralph pgpMLp3xCEazN.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
Well, you must concede that it is *somewhat* ridiculous to read a one-line innocent email containing a twelve-line dense disclaimer... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
> > Is there a projected release date for CentOS-5.3? > > > > > hedidnotask...this > > search the forums..when it's done..unless you would like to help..:) I have helped by sending money. I don't know if that counts or not though. -- This e-mail may contain technical information which is controlled by the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic & Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical data is limited to US Legal Residents only. It is the responsibility of the organization and individual in control of this data to abide by US export laws. If you are not a US Legal Resident, immediately forward this e-mail to not...@hartwellcorp.com or reply to sender without reading any further. Take no other action with this e-mail until contacted. Notice: The information in this document and document itself, in whole or in part, in any form ("Information") is proprietary and/or confidential property of Hartwell Corporation, Placentia, California. Hartwell Corporation and its successors and assignees retain and reserve all right, title and interest in this information in whole or in part and in all forms. This Information is provided to the original recipient only for confidential use, with the understanding that it will not be used in any manner detrimental to the interests of Hartwell Corporation, and subject to return on request. Reproduction, transmission, distribution or publication of this Information in any form, in whole or in part, for any purpose without prior written permission of Hartwell Corporation is strictly prohibited. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
Am 22.01.2009 um 23:59 schrieb Frank Cox: > On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:46:00 -0800 > Michael St. Laurent wrote: > >> It's not a Sig file unfortunately. The Exchange mail server used >> here >> stamps it on every outgoing email. I've asked the Exchange admin >> about >> putting in an exception for my mail account. > > I forwarded your first email to not...@hartwellcorp.com, just like the > instructions said. > > Perhaps if everyone else on this mailing list did the same thing > with every one > of your emails, your Exchange admin would become "incentivized". > Sheesh! WTF? Do you want him to have his email-account suspended? Please, folks, be a little more insightful and not so quick with the email-button. This is not kindergarden, where the only punishment is standing in the corner for two minutes Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
Am 22.01.2009 um 23:52 schrieb Lanny Marcus: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Michael St. Laurent > wrote: >>> Mike: As Tru pointed out, you should trim your Sig file >>> considerably, >>> or eliminate it. I really doubt that DoD cares if you get help or >>> information from this mailing list. We have people with .gov email >>> addresses participating (NASA, etc.) and none of them have Sig files >>> like that. Welcome to the list! Lanny >> >> It's not a Sig file unfortunately. The Exchange mail server used >> here >> stamps it on every outgoing email. I've asked the Exchange admin >> about >> putting in an exception for my mail account. > > Possibly he or she could give you another email account, only to be > used for Mailing Lists, without that huge stamp on your emails to the > list(s)? Can't you use some webmail? I never use my company email for anything else but company- communications. All mailing-lists and private stuff is done under my own name and domain. Thus, nobody can claim "ownership" or other stupid stuff. I liked to use my university email address - but back then, I didn't have my own domain-name anyway. Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:46:00 -0800 Michael St. Laurent wrote: > It's not a Sig file unfortunately. The Exchange mail server used here > stamps it on every outgoing email. I've asked the Exchange admin about > putting in an exception for my mail account. I forwarded your first email to not...@hartwellcorp.com, just like the instructions said. Perhaps if everyone else on this mailing list did the same thing with every one of your emails, your Exchange admin would become "incentivized". -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
> > Is there a projected release date for CentOS-5.3? > > > > > hedidnotask...this > > search the forums..when it's done..unless you would like to help..:) Sorry folks. I'll go back to lurking now. -- This e-mail may contain technical information which is controlled by the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic & Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical data is limited to US Legal Residents only. It is the responsibility of the organization and individual in control of this data to abide by US export laws. If you are not a US Legal Resident, immediately forward this e-mail to not...@hartwellcorp.com or reply to sender without reading any further. Take no other action with this e-mail until contacted. Notice: The information in this document and document itself, in whole or in part, in any form ("Information") is proprietary and/or confidential property of Hartwell Corporation, Placentia, California. Hartwell Corporation and its successors and assignees retain and reserve all right, title and interest in this information in whole or in part and in all forms. This Information is provided to the original recipient only for confidential use, with the understanding that it will not be used in any manner detrimental to the interests of Hartwell Corporation, and subject to return on request. Reproduction, transmission, distribution or publication of this Information in any form, in whole or in part, for any purpose without prior written permission of Hartwell Corporation is strictly prohibited. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Michael St. Laurent wrote: >> Mike: As Tru pointed out, you should trim your Sig file considerably, >> or eliminate it. I really doubt that DoD cares if you get help or >> information from this mailing list. We have people with .gov email >> addresses participating (NASA, etc.) and none of them have Sig files >> like that. Welcome to the list! Lanny > > It's not a Sig file unfortunately. The Exchange mail server used here > stamps it on every outgoing email. I've asked the Exchange admin about > putting in an exception for my mail account. Possibly he or she could give you another email account, only to be used for Mailing Lists, without that huge stamp on your emails to the list(s)? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Michael St. Laurent wrote: >> > What is the status of i7 architecture support for CentOS-5? Do the >> > latest updates support it? > >> according to the upstream notes wait for 5.3 > > Is there a projected release date for CentOS-5.3? This will probably take the CentOS developers several weeks. They are going to post something on the CentOS web site soon, which will be updated with progress reports. It will be done ASAP. I read your reply about the Suits and if you are a Jeans Engineer, I understand your frustration with that Sig file and the Suits... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
> > > Is there a projected release date for CentOS-5.3? > > hedidnotask...this search the forums..when it's done..unless you would like to help..:) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
> Mike: As Tru pointed out, you should trim your Sig file considerably, > or eliminate it. I really doubt that DoD cares if you get help or > information from this mailing list. We have people with .gov email > addresses participating (NASA, etc.) and none of them have Sig files > like that. Welcome to the list! Lanny It's not a Sig file unfortunately. The Exchange mail server used here stamps it on every outgoing email. I've asked the Exchange admin about putting in an exception for my mail account. -- This e-mail may contain technical information which is controlled by the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic & Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical data is limited to US Legal Residents only. It is the responsibility of the organization and individual in control of this data to abide by US export laws. If you are not a US Legal Resident, immediately forward this e-mail to not...@hartwellcorp.com or reply to sender without reading any further. Take no other action with this e-mail until contacted. Notice: The information in this document and document itself, in whole or in part, in any form ("Information") is proprietary and/or confidential property of Hartwell Corporation, Placentia, California. Hartwell Corporation and its successors and assignees retain and reserve all right, title and interest in this information in whole or in part and in all forms. This Information is provided to the original recipient only for confidential use, with the understanding that it will not be used in any manner detrimental to the interests of Hartwell Corporation, and subject to return on request. Reproduction, transmission, distribution or publication of this Information in any form, in whole or in part, for any purpose without prior written permission of Hartwell Corporation is strictly prohibited. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
> > What is the status of i7 architecture support for CentOS-5? Do the > > latest updates support it? > according to the upstream notes wait for 5.3 Is there a projected release date for CentOS-5.3? -- This e-mail may contain technical information which is controlled by the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic & Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical data is limited to US Legal Residents only. It is the responsibility of the organization and individual in control of this data to abide by US export laws. If you are not a US Legal Resident, immediately forward this e-mail to not...@hartwellcorp.com or reply to sender without reading any further. Take no other action with this e-mail until contacted. Notice: The information in this document and document itself, in whole or in part, in any form ("Information") is proprietary and/or confidential property of Hartwell Corporation, Placentia, California. Hartwell Corporation and its successors and assignees retain and reserve all right, title and interest in this information in whole or in part and in all forms. This Information is provided to the original recipient only for confidential use, with the understanding that it will not be used in any manner detrimental to the interests of Hartwell Corporation, and subject to return on request. Reproduction, transmission, distribution or publication of this Information in any form, in whole or in part, for any purpose without prior written permission of Hartwell Corporation is strictly prohibited. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
"Michael St. Laurent" wrote: >> I hate that stupid thing but the suits have insisted on it. My apologies for any implied insult. << Just so you know, such disclaimers are *all* bluster and have no legal force whatsoever (with one exception: privileged attorney-client communications). If someone is silly enough to mis-route an email to me, it's their problem and they cannot enforce any contractual obligations on me whatsoever, since no contract exists (I didn't invite the email and there is no exchange of considerations). Even the ITAR stuff is BS - it;s *your* company's responsibility to control such information and it means nothing to anyone else - especially us "foreign persons". ;) All these disclaimers do is further reduce the signal/noise ratio of the SMTP protocol. . . Best, --- Les Bell, RHCE, CISSP, M.Info.Tech. (System Security) [http://www.lesbell.com.au] Tel: +61 2 9451 1144 FreeWorldDialup: 800909 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Michael St. Laurent wrote: > What is the status of i7 architecture support for CentOS-5? Do the > latest updates support it? Mike: As Tru pointed out, you should trim your Sig file considerably, or eliminate it. I really doubt that DoD cares if you get help or information from this mailing list. We have people with .gov email addresses participating (NASA, etc.) and none of them have Sig files like that. Welcome to the list! Lanny ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 02:18:05PM -0800, Michael St. Laurent wrote: > > What is the status of i7 architecture support for CentOS-5? Do the > > latest updates support it? > according to the upstream notes wait for 5.3 > > oh, I should not reply, nor read your mail according to your footer ;) > (not a US Legal Resident nor do I have export license of whatever it is) I hate that stupid thing but the suits have insisted on it. My apologies for any implied insult. -- This e-mail may contain technical information which is controlled by the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic & Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical data is limited to US Legal Residents only. It is the responsibility of the organization and individual in control of this data to abide by US export laws. If you are not a US Legal Resident, immediately forward this e-mail to not...@hartwellcorp.com or reply to sender without reading any further. Take no other action with this e-mail until contacted. Notice: The information in this document and document itself, in whole or in part, in any form ("Information") is proprietary and/or confidential property of Hartwell Corporation, Placentia, California. Hartwell Corporation and its successors and assignees retain and reserve all right, title and interest in this information in whole or in part and in all forms. This Information is provided to the original recipient only for confidential use, with the understanding that it will not be used in any manner detrimental to the interests of Hartwell Corporation, and subject to return on request. Reproduction, transmission, distribution or publication of this Information in any form, in whole or in part, for any purpose without prior written permission of Hartwell Corporation is strictly prohibited. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 02:18:05PM -0800, Michael St. Laurent wrote: > What is the status of i7 architecture support for CentOS-5? Do the > latest updates support it? according to the upstream notes wait for 5.3 oh, I should not reply, nor read your mail according to your footer ;) (not a US Legal Resident nor do I have export license of whatever it is) Tru -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xBEFA581B pgpESWjbxFzOW.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Support for i7 architecture?
What is the status of i7 architecture support for CentOS-5? Do the latest updates support it? -- This e-mail may contain technical information which is controlled by the United States Government, Department of State, International Traffic & Arms Regulations (ITAR) (22 CFR 120-130) which requires an export license prior to sharing with foreign persons. Lacking such license, ITAR technical data is limited to US Legal Residents only. It is the responsibility of the organization and individual in control of this data to abide by US export laws. If you are not a US Legal Resident, immediately forward this e-mail to not...@hartwellcorp.com or reply to sender without reading any further. Take no other action with this e-mail until contacted. Notice: The information in this document and document itself, in whole or in part, in any form ("Information") is proprietary and/or confidential property of Hartwell Corporation, Placentia, California. Hartwell Corporation and its successors and assignees retain and reserve all right, title and interest in this information in whole or in part and in all forms. This Information is provided to the original recipient only for confidential use, with the understanding that it will not be used in any manner detrimental to the interests of Hartwell Corporation, and subject to return on request. Reproduction, transmission, distribution or publication of this Information in any form, in whole or in part, for any purpose without prior written permission of Hartwell Corporation is strictly prohibited. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos