Re: [CentOS] Upgrade to 5.4 with an existing XFS-filesystem

2009-10-22 Thread Bernhard Gschaider

 On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:36:06 -0700
 AY == Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:

AY On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Bernhard Gschaider
AY bgschaid_li...@ice-sf.at wrote:

 I've got a fileserver currently running under 5.3 with the
 /home-partition being an XFS-filesystem. I use the kmod-xfs
 from extras. It works great ;)
 
 Now: as I understand it from the release-notes the 5.4 kernel
 has XFS already built-in. Right? Or is it just a kmod-package
 (technology preview)
 
 Now my question is: are there any recommendations for an
 upgrade-procedure? I mean, I can probably manage, but I'll want
 to minimize downtime

 BTW: when doing yum list updates I don't see any
 kernel*-packages in the list. Is this because the last kernel
 from the 5.3-updates has the same build-numer (164 I think)? 
 And is the 5.4-base-kernel the same as the latest
 5.3-updates-kernel?

AY The -164 kernel is indeed from 5.4 and has xfs as a built-in
AY kernel module.  If you are already running this kernel, that
AY indicates all is well and no further action is needed.

AY Could you show us the output returned by:

AY ls -l `find /lib/modules -name xfs.ko`

Thanks for the hint: I did it (I'll spare you the listing). The
-164-kernel ist the first one where according to rpm -qf path the
module is owned by the kernel package. All the other instances of
xfs.ko point to a module owned by kmod-xfs.

So obviously I'm not using the kmod-xfs anymore (I'm relieved that the
last kernel-update worked without a clash)

Thanks again for clearing that up

Bernhard

BTW: yes. It is a x86_64-machine


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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade to 5.4 with an existing XFS-filesystem

2009-10-22 Thread Ross Walker

On Oct 22, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Bernhard Gschaider bgschaid_li...@ice-sf.at 
  wrote:


 On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:36:06 -0700
 AY == Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:

AY On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Bernhard Gschaider
AY bgschaid_li...@ice-sf.at wrote:

 I've got a fileserver currently running under 5.3 with the
 /home-partition being an XFS-filesystem. I use the kmod-xfs
 from extras. It works great ;)

 Now: as I understand it from the release-notes the 5.4 kernel
 has XFS already built-in. Right? Or is it just a kmod-package
 (technology preview)

 Now my question is: are there any recommendations for an
 upgrade-procedure? I mean, I can probably manage, but I'll want
 to minimize downtime

 BTW: when doing yum list updates I don't see any
 kernel*-packages in the list. Is this because the last kernel
 from the 5.3-updates has the same build-numer (164 I think)?
 And is the 5.4-base-kernel the same as the latest
 5.3-updates-kernel?

AY The -164 kernel is indeed from 5.4 and has xfs as a built-in
AY kernel module.  If you are already running this kernel, that
AY indicates all is well and no further action is needed.

AY Could you show us the output returned by:

AY ls -l `find /lib/modules -name xfs.ko`

 Thanks for the hint: I did it (I'll spare you the listing). The
 -164-kernel ist the first one where according to rpm -qf path the
 module is owned by the kernel package. All the other instances of
 xfs.ko point to a module owned by kmod-xfs.

 So obviously I'm not using the kmod-xfs anymore (I'm relieved that the
 last kernel-update worked without a clash)

 Thanks again for clearing that up

 Bernhard

 BTW: yes. It is a x86_64-machine

What version of XFS is supplied?

Is it still true that RH doesn't supply xfsprogs and xfsdump so we  
need to use the ones in 'extras'?

If so, wouldn't it be risky using the RH supplied kernel driver with  
third party supplied maintenance apps in case RH were to backport any  
XFS internal structs that the user progs don't know how to handle, or  
vice versa.

I think I'll stick with the complete CentOS XFS bundle for a while and  
see what RH does.

-Ross
  
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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade to 5.4 with an existing XFS-filesystem

2009-10-22 Thread Timo Schoeler
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thus Ross Walker spake:
| On Oct 22, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Bernhard Gschaider bgschaid_li...@ice-sf.at
|   wrote:
|
| On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:36:06 -0700
| AY == Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:
|AY On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Bernhard Gschaider
|AY bgschaid_li...@ice-sf.at wrote:
|
| I've got a fileserver currently running under 5.3 with the
| /home-partition being an XFS-filesystem. I use the kmod-xfs
| from extras. It works great ;)
|
| Now: as I understand it from the release-notes the 5.4 kernel
| has XFS already built-in. Right? Or is it just a kmod-package
| (technology preview)
|
| Now my question is: are there any recommendations for an
| upgrade-procedure? I mean, I can probably manage, but I'll want
| to minimize downtime
| BTW: when doing yum list updates I don't see any
| kernel*-packages in the list. Is this because the last kernel
| from the 5.3-updates has the same build-numer (164 I think)?
| And is the 5.4-base-kernel the same as the latest
| 5.3-updates-kernel?
|AY The -164 kernel is indeed from 5.4 and has xfs as a built-in
|AY kernel module.  If you are already running this kernel, that
|AY indicates all is well and no further action is needed.
|
|AY Could you show us the output returned by:
|
|AY ls -l `find /lib/modules -name xfs.ko`
|
| Thanks for the hint: I did it (I'll spare you the listing). The
| -164-kernel ist the first one where according to rpm -qf path the
| module is owned by the kernel package. All the other instances of
| xfs.ko point to a module owned by kmod-xfs.
|
| So obviously I'm not using the kmod-xfs anymore (I'm relieved that the
| last kernel-update worked without a clash)
|
| Thanks again for clearing that up
|
| Bernhard
|
| BTW: yes. It is a x86_64-machine
|
| What version of XFS is supplied?
|
| Is it still true that RH doesn't supply xfsprogs and xfsdump so we
| need to use the ones in 'extras'?

http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.4#head-29511ff6659f6463d444feb92326ed2232fc8c08

| If so, wouldn't it be risky using the RH supplied kernel driver with
| third party supplied maintenance apps in case RH were to backport any
| XFS internal structs that the user progs don't know how to handle, or
| vice versa.
|
| I think I'll stick with the complete CentOS XFS bundle for a while and
| see what RH does.
|
| -Ross

Timo
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[CentOS] Upgrade to 5.4 with an existing XFS-filesystem

2009-10-20 Thread Bernhard Gschaider

Hi!

I've got a fileserver currently running under 5.3 with the
/home-partition being an XFS-filesystem. I use the kmod-xfs from
extras. It works great ;)

Now: as I understand it from the release-notes the 5.4 kernel has XFS
already built-in. Right? Or is it just a kmod-package (technology
preview) 

Now my question is: are there any recommendations for an
upgrade-procedure? I mean, I can probably manage, but I'll want to
minimize downtime

Bernhard

BTW: when doing yum list updates I don't see any kernel*-packages
in the list. Is this because the last kernel from the 5.3-updates has
the same build-numer (164 I think)? And is the 5.4-base-kernel the
same as the latest 5.3-updates-kernel?


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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade to 5.4 with an existing XFS-filesystem

2009-10-20 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Bernhard Gschaider
bgschaid_li...@ice-sf.at wrote:

 I've got a fileserver currently running under 5.3 with the
 /home-partition being an XFS-filesystem. I use the kmod-xfs from
 extras. It works great ;)

 Now: as I understand it from the release-notes the 5.4 kernel has XFS
 already built-in. Right? Or is it just a kmod-package (technology
 preview)

 Now my question is: are there any recommendations for an
 upgrade-procedure? I mean, I can probably manage, but I'll want to
 minimize downtime

 BTW: when doing yum list updates I don't see any kernel*-packages
 in the list. Is this because the last kernel from the 5.3-updates has
 the same build-numer (164 I think)? And is the 5.4-base-kernel the
 same as the latest 5.3-updates-kernel?

The -164 kernel is indeed from 5.4 and has xfs as a built-in kernel
module.  If you are already running this kernel, that indicates all is
well and no further action is needed.

Could you show us the output returned by:

ls -l `find /lib/modules -name xfs.ko`

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade to 5.4 with an existing XFS-filesystem

2009-10-20 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Bernhard Gschaider

 The -164 kernel is indeed from 5.4 and has xfs as a built-in kernel
 module.  If you are already running this kernel, that indicates all is
 well and no further action is needed.

In that note, I assumed your kernel was x86_64...

Akemi
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