Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
On Sat, 2015-06-06 at 07:04 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: > Back when grub2 oozed into Fedora, I made a small page, both as a reminder > for myself and to stop repeating answers on the Fedora forums. > You probably don't need it, but just in case. > > http://srobb.net/grub2.html Brilliant. Thanks. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. England's place is in the European Union. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 12:11:47PM +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 06/06/15 12:04, Scott Robbins wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 10:39:07AM +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: > > > > > > > >> Thanks, I'm used to grub, and had forgotten that grub2 doesn't > >> read the config itself and needs the make config step. > > Back when grub2 oozed into Fedora, I made a small page, both as a > > reminder for myself and to stop repeating answers on the Fedora > > forums. You probably don't need it, but just in case. > > > > http://srobb.net/grub2.html > > > > > Thanks again, there looks to be some useful pointers in there. Duly > saved for onward transmission to work. Upon reading it, I see I wrote back with F16, so just made a few quick updates. If it looks different the next time you see it, that's why. :) -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/15 12:04, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 10:39:07AM +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: > > > >> Thanks, I'm used to grub, and had forgotten that grub2 doesn't >> read the config itself and needs the make config step. > Back when grub2 oozed into Fedora, I made a small page, both as a > reminder for myself and to stop repeating answers on the Fedora > forums. You probably don't need it, but just in case. > > http://srobb.net/grub2.html > > Thanks again, there looks to be some useful pointers in there. Duly saved for onward transmission to work. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVctVzAAoJEAF3yXsqtyBlBEkQAJ9gqfWWCCtO8AUyBVLhHybQ ICyXzjaZy+8LpNgIDpqdcqFW/Vl9etPfVhxlDJnre1zKqvr7iuqA+nB256oPCFf+ weZS+73p/jDnjcm59CpZ3PsQiFuQ1BG4wb9ZcLT513wbo+ymRr61svAwOLYd6SZf 3viSPqLLoTlgR2DdLIjWd0rH3qZZKvLwQVOcLMhU4iMw2NHG7Ae2+Ob8AaXUt2L7 hRBg05hoHC8QhxwVA4MDBC9z4cHK0yDlYA5P8h4iecsoOcZCQ6tkAlJoXoFg4jf2 L6aoWMvr7O5CGncksyaexxae2Kz42XCx0X6iDhxBICrbFkRBY/WNfoDYhrm7DvaB r+1r67XOsK0+iiOPsB5p6d7mo1PeaIwdq7k39AycPr9q9ENknS+K9xPb9zJzKYK/ D5b9+VcRd8hlyoh0z4r5h48ZFm+x1fuXjMDyYgRjT+68Itjrbkg7lmER+udWYOg6 lHEvqIPwRj4SwbiDdd6dfw1jldYRtkEMQoNi4K8mfP4HtVIhJ25NfJ71uYamQ8+l lm6MfNGtmwUHbQrXzvt5pu3TEnyUiezAa9jQ/UTOfNBJNSCiAqGiJfnH5BxYNowX svAdBUAFx3sMtOJxl9nkUFYxMj3YNgY6lJ7qxR0YQMlem2fRRhVeZ2AAXJ9sxmDo hKZ1RbtSUEyerv71iETV =7HvB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 10:39:07AM +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: > Thanks, I'm used to grub, and had forgotten that grub2 doesn't read > the config itself and needs the make config step. Back when grub2 oozed into Fedora, I made a small page, both as a reminder for myself and to stop repeating answers on the Fedora forums. You probably don't need it, but just in case. http://srobb.net/grub2.html -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/15 23:48, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 10:35:49PM +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >>> >>> If I wasn't already swamped with tasks I would offer to help. >>> I appreciate all your dedicated hard work. >>> >>> >> Quite apart from the aesthetics, is there any easy way to turn it >> off in grub2? I'd far rather see the boot-time messages. It's >> not too bad on a standard home machine, I can hit Esc, but >> headless machines are a different matter. > > Edit /etc/defaults/grub and remove rhgb quiet from the kernel line > there. > > Then run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg > Thanks, I'm used to grub, and had forgotten that grub2 doesn't read the config itself and needs the make config step. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVcr+7AAoJEAF3yXsqtyBluogP/1wL252pMqZr0xaQlv+s7ffJ +zi00bMoaog7pofpan91kN/evhQx+q/jPYcF0pnS67jAcat5IFDKQ/fuUmo29Anx yVEMFpL0RVpLdi80PwEFQjZVm/YYDQcAgpnqhL7i7g0pEm2KfONXU9pIuDyPOKqS hppBI2ghLTFWqn2J19ainUPD5Y2y8gSYNWvuYRoIheBo0ns0DIoFtofwbB4u2ckH Kv+BkSrqdZqvzRT4hGwNZmYv1UwjORAxup0POd5k+U26Ne0iz2MYeuAx3j++KQs5 /6p01dj1fuE/jkAw3+Ac5N6xJoSS1bQ1IX8bSCSXoQguRbGM6nHQy01dHZmlD6IE 9/Lc5ZZSBxHvSHxIMT6+FNYvzm2sCabmFb8QOezypNJNrwBB/2pm/b9wK1Ip+Hwf PQHSXKZY24IDl0kwHIylnzAjXR13ff0zoqWLTgOzejkRtspAE8Rvyc9vxFMwHupj sCMEEyRoTZhVU8i0PPhJNMiHeEGT4e2Cl+/IWDjrpx8dvbGDtb0hyzge/wswXUUm g17cp0N3hn7a4N71vMF6mbKSGN9aP1rqAa9wJgnygTv3OcXC7eq0oZgcpm69dU59 b71sEXu0yof/s66ArAlMXjOzE13yC9qAaE5EhKMQuTzuDeo5WSn6UxsWMgacu8p7 34rjSbXIWbHJnaASA1CQ =iLk+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 10:35:49PM +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > If I wasn't already swamped with tasks I would offer to help. I > > appreciate all your dedicated hard work. > > > > > Quite apart from the aesthetics, is there any easy way to turn it off > in grub2? I'd far rather see the boot-time messages. It's not too > bad on a standard home machine, I can hit Esc, but headless machines > are a different matter. Edit /etc/defaults/grub and remove rhgb quiet from the kernel line there. Then run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/15 21:43, Always Learning wrote: > > On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 21:18 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > >> The CentOS theme looks just like the RHEL theme since there was >> only a 7 and not any trademark reasons to change that theme. > > Apologies. I forgot. Centos is the same as Red Hat minus the > product branding. If a display is crap in Red Hat, then the Red Hat > crap will manifest itself in Centos, minus the Red Hat branding. > >> Remember, we have only 3 people doing CentOS Linux distro related >> things .. and of the 3, only 1 (me) is full time maintaining of >> distro packages. The other 2 are concentrating on >> Docker/Container/Cloud. >> >> It isn't like we have a hundred (or even a dozen) engineers >> working on CentOS. > > If I wasn't already swamped with tasks I would offer to help. I > appreciate all your dedicated hard work. > > Quite apart from the aesthetics, is there any easy way to turn it off in grub2? I'd far rather see the boot-time messages. It's not too bad on a standard home machine, I can hit Esc, but headless machines are a different matter. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVchY1AAoJEAF3yXsqtyBl8g0P/AmCQpqSKYGVX/fTzTb/H+vl QJJWLnHaUQXrDdbQzhBKdf1Gpp/2APIxrMcm8T+fPGl9UzNMYuBWd7Ri2vTjjkR8 CZsOs5RmR48EOzO5b5nkrL0HNODfBnpK4jffGmHJi86/JRjErDdYR6KtmEvklKZa xDUuL3unC7WP98EJ47smgQAM5iAkP82ICV4cd+csZBJP9xbXLbppl/AhsoRMfCwz 9J6M4MdTuDPtMNzEmCJ2CNL+eOtPJGHYTYDj1dAyKXBUV7nRtcZnFkOtbnIt2Jbn lRXI8a1S2yJA7PzsF745nyxT2pRKfbTojfg6EqdojApDA3g9ld+79jQcyvg7d6qJ IFfuxuaNq6Y7PEwEQkqB64o3ihM8yjiWVQqiQXwdSU+gSErXn00k9gbGl9DB9xwl zD9rDnqiprrd6RFlecpX9NjfODEB2OH+3Ng352Uh7fn1u5Bg6Ph2hwqMVnN7ybUQ FHbuhIjrS/IoxRIpifampD56MuYNpYec+5MRSUnkRuGtCnTJq4SJrepArOJQRW8J Pn976sKtgWXOnGJhk6rtOxTa5DcqVW2N9tQWdMEmeSbodUh9sUlDvH/g6fT76xgB zc7v4yPL9nIZdKSV3xdc2k/dnXzqymdPNvA4hGs1Ykvh1cUgFbg6frSoDNMiztC1 IYqt+PlX2m60509Do3DR =kMYl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 21:18 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > The CentOS theme looks just like the RHEL theme since there was only a 7 > and not any trademark reasons to change that theme. Apologies. I forgot. Centos is the same as Red Hat minus the product branding. If a display is crap in Red Hat, then the Red Hat crap will manifest itself in Centos, minus the Red Hat branding. > Remember, we have only 3 people doing CentOS Linux distro related things > .. and of the 3, only 1 (me) is full time maintaining of distro > packages. The other 2 are concentrating on Docker/Container/Cloud. > > It isn't like we have a hundred (or even a dozen) engineers working on > CentOS. If I wasn't already swamped with tasks I would offer to help. I appreciate all your dedicated hard work. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. England's place is in the European Union. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
On 06/04/2015 03:37 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 12:41 -0400, Mike - st257 wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> > I thought the logo in CentOS-6 was very pleasant. >>> >>> The fact remains that booting was attractive, and now it isn't. > > >> I'll agree that the boot splash change from EL6 to EL7 differs a lot. >> >> We're of differing opinion ... I see the boot splash "once every blue moon" >> so it doesn't bother me. It's certainly more modern looking in EL7, though >> it does lack the indicator "ring" that shows granular boot progress. > > The product's public image is important. Its part of the Centos > experience. "Pleasant" items should be retained not indifferently > discarded (because some adore Windoze). > The CentOS theme looks just like the RHEL theme since there was only a 7 and not any trademark reasons to change that theme. The goal of CentOS is to change the minimum amount of source code possible ... so we didn't change it. We did get the logo working on the login screen with the latest updates. If someone *WANTS* to figure out how to change the theme using the git.centos.org source code, and if they recommend the changes via patches using the git am format on the CentOS Devel mailing list, we will certainly discuss those possible changes. Remember, we have only 3 people doing CentOS Linux distro related things .. and of the 3, only 1 (me) is full time maintaining of distro packages. The other 2 are concentrating on Docker/Container/Cloud. It isn't like we have a hundred (or even a dozen) engineers working on CentOS. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 12:41 -0400, Mike - st257 wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > > >> I thought the logo in CentOS-6 was very pleasant. > > > > The fact remains that booting was attractive, and now it isn't. > I'll agree that the boot splash change from EL6 to EL7 differs a lot. > > We're of differing opinion ... I see the boot splash "once every blue moon" > so it doesn't bother me. It's certainly more modern looking in EL7, though > it does lack the indicator "ring" that shows granular boot progress. The product's public image is important. Its part of the Centos experience. "Pleasant" items should be retained not indifferently discarded (because some adore Windoze). -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. England's place is in the European Union. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Mike - st257 wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Timothy Murphy > > wrote: > > > >> Has the CentOS logo disappeared from CentOS-7? > > > > You are referring to Plymouth splash screen while booting. > > > >> I thought the logo in CentOS-6 was very pleasant. > > Probably. > The fact remains that booting was attractive, and now it isn't. I'll agree that the boot splash change from EL6 to EL7 differs a lot. We're of differing opinion ... I see the boot splash "once every blue moon" so it doesn't bother me. It's certainly more modern looking in EL7, though it does lack the indicator "ring" that shows granular boot progress. You can get/create and set different boot splash themes. Maybe it's possible for you (or potentially someone already created it?) a theme that gives you the "attractiveness" you desire. http://www.tejasbarot.com/2009/01/19/enable-graphical-boot-with-plymouth/ http://theurbanpenguin.com/wp/?p=3227 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4eiK7chQTo -- ---~~.~~--- Mike // SilverTip257 // ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
Mike - st257 wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Timothy Murphy > wrote: > >> Has the CentOS logo disappeared from CentOS-7? > > You are referring to Plymouth splash screen while booting. > >> I thought the logo in CentOS-6 was very pleasant. Probably. The fact remains that booting was attractive, and now it isn't. -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Has the CentOS logo disappeared from CentOS-7? > You are referring to Plymouth splash screen while booting. > I thought the logo in CentOS-6 was very pleasant. > The logo is in other areas of the desktop environment. > Also I liked the way in which one increasing circle inside another > showed how the boot was progressing. > There's a white spinner/throbber [like Mac OSX] to show the OS is loading. I'll agree that until the OS is mostly booted that the spinner doesn't change ... but with modern-ish hardware none of that lasts very many seconds. ;-) > The dots going round and round in Microsoft fashion in CentOS-7 > is a retrograde step, I think. One always has the fear it might continue forever. > Doesn't bother me. I expect my systems to be booted more often than not and the boot splash is of less importance. > > -- > Timothy Murphy > gayleard /at/ eircom.net > School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin > > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > -- ---~~.~~--- Mike // SilverTip257 // ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] What has happened to the CentOS logo?
Has the CentOS logo disappeared from CentOS-7? I thought the logo in CentOS-6 was very pleasant. Also I liked the way in which one increasing circle inside another showed how the boot was progressing. The dots going round and round in Microsoft fashion in CentOS-7 is a retrograde step, I think. One always has the fear it might continue forever. -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos