Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 10 November 2008 20:30:13 William L. Maltby wrote:
>
> Helped by circumstances. _Normally_, the default install has those
> aliases only assigned for root, due to the great risk to the system.
>
> So it would be a natural assumption. As usual "assume" has its risks.
>
Well, it might have been painful at the time, dealing with this and with the 
damage on the box after the kernel bug at the same time, but I've learned a 
good deal, thanks to the patient answers to my questions.  Every cloud has a 
silver lining :-)

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[William L. Maltby]

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 20:11 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 10 November 2008 19:56:52 Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 10 November 2008 19:45:32 Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 at 7:42pm, Anne Wilson wrote
> > >
> > > > Looking back, I still can't see it, Kai.  I remember being told to look
> > > > in ~/.bashrc.
> > >
> > > If you're root (why are you logging in as root?), then ~ *is* /root.
> >
> > I wasn't - that's the whole point.  That's why I didn't find it.
> >
> I guess that the OP thought I was when he said that, though

Helped by circumstances. _Normally_, the default install has those
aliases only assigned for root, due to the great risk to the system.

So it would be a natural assumption. As usual "assume" has its risks.

> 
> Anne
> 

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 10 November 2008 19:56:52 Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 10 November 2008 19:45:32 Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 at 7:42pm, Anne Wilson wrote
> >
> > > Looking back, I still can't see it, Kai.  I remember being told to look
> > > in ~/.bashrc.
> >
> > If you're root (why are you logging in as root?), then ~ *is* /root.
>
> I wasn't - that's the whole point.  That's why I didn't find it.
>
I guess that the OP thought I was when he said that, though

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 10 November 2008 19:45:32 Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 at 7:42pm, Anne Wilson wrote
>
> > Looking back, I still can't see it, Kai.  I remember being told to look
> > in ~/.bashrc.
>
> If you're root (why are you logging in as root?), then ~ *is* /root.

I wasn't - that's the whole point.  That's why I didn't find it.

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Joshua Baker-LePain]

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 at 7:42pm, Anne Wilson wrote


Looking back, I still can't see it, Kai.  I remember being told to look in
~/.bashrc.


If you're root (why are you logging in as root?), then ~ *is* /root.

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Anne Wilson]

On Monday 10 November 2008 19:31:21 Kai Schaetzl wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote on Sun, 9 Nov 2008 09:51:16 +:
> > > /root/.bashrc
> >
> > That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks.
>
> That was already told very early on, but you didn't notice it!
>
Looking back, I still can't see it, Kai.  I remember being told to look in 
~/.bashrc.

Still, the important thing is that I now know where to look.

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Kai Schaetzl]

Anne Wilson wrote on Sun, 9 Nov 2008 09:51:16 +:

> > /root/.bashrc
> 
> That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks.

That was already told very early on, but you didn't notice it!

Kai

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RE: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Mark A. Lewis]

> I'm sorry, but I just can't understand why I can't find these
>
> Anne

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# pwd
/root
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat .bashrc
# .bashrc

# User specific aliases and functions

alias rm='rm -i'
alias cp='cp -i'
alias mv='mv -i'

# Source global definitions
if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
. /etc/bashrc
fi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#
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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 08 November 2008 22:26:51 John R Pierce wrote:
> I note that the commands you're seeing are aliased explicitly in
>
>     /root/.bashrc

That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks.

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[John R Pierce]

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 08 November 2008 20:38:43 William L. Maltby wrote:
  

/etc/bashrc

But be aware that root-specific ones are here on 5.x

# grep alias .bashrc
# User specific aliases and functions
alias rm='rm -i'
alias cp='cp -i'
alias mv='mv -i'



I'm sorry, but I just can't understand why I can't find these
  



bash runs...

   /etc/profile
   /etc/bashrc
and
   $HOME/.bash_profile
or
   $HOME/.bash_login
or
   $HOME/.profile

upon starting a login shell...

the standard supplied profiles by default also run

   /etc/profile.d/*.sh
   $HOME/.bashrc

and this last runs

   /etc/bashrc

I note that the commands you're seeing are aliased explicitly in

   /root/.bashrc

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /root/.bashrc
   # .bashrc
 
   # User specific aliases and functions
 
   alias rm='rm -i'

   alias cp='cp -i'
   alias mv='mv -i'
 
   # Source global definitions

   if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
   . /etc/bashrc
   fi


by default in most every RH system I checked, from the above CentOS 5 
all the way back to RH Linux 6.2



[EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# ls -la .bashrc
-rw-r--r--1 root root  176 Aug 23  1995 .bashrc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# rpm -qf .bashrc
rootfiles-5.2-5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# rpm -qi rootfiles
Name: rootfilesRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 5.2   Vendor: Red Hat Software
Release : 5 Build Date: Sun Mar 21 
20:00:32 1999
Install date: Wed Feb 23 13:13:29 2000  Build Host: 
porky.devel.redhat.com
Group   : System Environment/Base   Source RPM: 
rootfiles-5.2-5.src.rpm

Size: 1912 License: public domain
Packager: Red Hat Software 
Summary : The basic required files for the root user's directory.
Description :
The rootfiles package contains basic required files that are placed
in the root user's account.  These files are basically the same
as the files found in the etcskel package, which are placed in regular
users' home directories.

note the date on that .bashrc file, heh.  13 years ago.




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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[William L. Maltby]

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 22:02 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 08 November 2008 20:38:43 William L. Maltby wrote:
> > /etc/bashrc
> >
> > But be aware that root-specific ones are here on 5.x
> >
> > # grep alias .bashrc
> > # User specific aliases and functions
> > alias rm='rm -i'
> > alias cp='cp -i'
> > alias mv='mv -i'
> 
> I'm sorry, but I just can't understand why I can't find these

Local mods somewhere in the past? Missed update?

# lsb_release 
LSB
Version::core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:graphics-3.1-ia32:graphics-3.1-noarch

# cat /etc/redhat-release 
CentOS release 5.2 (Final)

Corruption? Have you done an rpm --verify? Have you done an updatedb and
locate for rpmsave and rpmnew? Those are all I can think of.

Keep in mind that when you login, various config/init files are used by
bash, depending on normal operation or not. I've not examined all the
below, but nothing else catches my eye as "The Usual Suspects" (TM).

# ls -ld /etc/*prof* /etc/*bash*
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 17 06:00 /etc/bash_completion.d
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1437 Nov 28  2006 /etc/bashrc
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 10  2007 /etc/desktop-profiles
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  937 Jan 31  2006 /etc/profile
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 13 16:16 /etc/profile.d
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   32 Jan  3  2008 /etc/yumex.profiles.conf

]# grep -irl alias /etc/*prof* /etc/*bash*
/etc/profile
/etc/profile.d/colorls.csh
/etc/profile.d/vim.csh
/etc/profile.d/colorls.sh
/etc/profile.d/nvidia.sh
/etc/profile.d/vim.sh
/etc/profile.d/which-2.sh
/etc/profile.d/nvidia.csh
/etc/bashrc

In /etc/passwd, add the "-x" flag to the end of the root line and you
should see all executed commands.

> 
> Anne
> 

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 08 November 2008 20:38:43 William L. Maltby wrote:
> /etc/bashrc
>
> But be aware that root-specific ones are here on 5.x
>
> # grep alias .bashrc
> # User specific aliases and functions
> alias rm='rm -i'
> alias cp='cp -i'
> alias mv='mv -i'

I'm sorry, but I just can't understand why I can't find these

Anne


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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[William L. Maltby]

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 19:39 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 08 November 2008 19:00:56 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 18:57 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > I was having a problem in a shell script that turned out to be cp being
> > > aliased to 'cp -i'.  Not a showstopper, once you realise it, but it did
> > > beg the question as to where this file is.  I was told to look in
> > > /etc/profile.d, but that doesn't seem to be the case on my CentOS box.  I
> > > can list aliases, so I know the file exists, but where?
> >
> > ~/.bashrc
> >
> That seems to be the place to add user-specific ones, but where are the 
> global 
> default ones?

/etc/bashrc

But be aware that root-specific ones are here on 5.x

# grep alias .bashrc
# User specific aliases and functions
alias rm='rm -i'
alias cp='cp -i'
alias mv='mv -i'

> 
> > FTR, you can use \cp to get around this.
> 
> I was told that, and also told that it was advisable to use the full path in 
> a 
> script, particularly if it is to be run by cron.  I chose the full-path 
> solution.

Unambiguity is _always_ preferred if security is a primary issue.
Anytime higher privileges are involved, that should be a high-priority
issue.

> 
> Anne
> 

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 19:39 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> That seems to be the place to add user-specific ones, but where are the 
> global 
> default ones?

All global default files are in /etc/skel.

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 08 November 2008 19:00:12 MHR wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > I was having a problem in a shell script that turned out to be cp being
> > aliased to 'cp -i'.  Not a showstopper, once you realise it, but it did
> > beg the question as to where this file is.  I was told to look in
> > /etc/profile.d, but that doesn't seem to be the case on my CentOS box.  I
> > can list aliases, so I know the file exists, but where?
>
> Try /etc/profile.
>
That doesn't appear to define cp, l, ll, ls, mv, rm or which, all of which are 
listed by the command 'alias'.

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Anne Wilson]

On Saturday 08 November 2008 19:00:56 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 18:57 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I was having a problem in a shell script that turned out to be cp being
> > aliased to 'cp -i'.  Not a showstopper, once you realise it, but it did
> > beg the question as to where this file is.  I was told to look in
> > /etc/profile.d, but that doesn't seem to be the case on my CentOS box.  I
> > can list aliases, so I know the file exists, but where?
>
> ~/.bashrc
>
That seems to be the place to add user-specific ones, but where are the global 
default ones?

> FTR, you can use \cp to get around this.

I was told that, and also told that it was advisable to use the full path in a 
script, particularly if it is to be run by cron.  I chose the full-path 
solution.

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[MHR]

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was having a problem in a shell script that turned out to be cp being
> aliased to 'cp -i'.  Not a showstopper, once you realise it, but it did beg
> the question as to where this file is.  I was told to look in /etc/profile.d,
> but that doesn't seem to be the case on my CentOS box.  I can list aliases, so
> I know the file exists, but where?
>

Try /etc/profile.

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Re: [CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]

On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 18:57 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I was having a problem in a shell script that turned out to be cp being 
> aliased to 'cp -i'.  Not a showstopper, once you realise it, but it did beg 
> the question as to where this file is.  I was told to look in /etc/profile.d, 
> but that doesn't seem to be the case on my CentOS box.  I can list aliases, 
> so 
> I know the file exists, but where?

~/.bashrc

FTR, you can use \cp to get around this.

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[CentOS] Where is the file that sets aliases?

[Anne Wilson]

I was having a problem in a shell script that turned out to be cp being 
aliased to 'cp -i'.  Not a showstopper, once you realise it, but it did beg 
the question as to where this file is.  I was told to look in /etc/profile.d, 
but that doesn't seem to be the case on my CentOS box.  I can list aliases, so 
I know the file exists, but where?

Anne


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