Re: [CentOS] Which file system to use for a USB backup

[Earl Ramirez]

For Mac he can use fuse for mac or NTFS-3G for Mac, that will give you the
ability to write to ntfs drives on a Mac.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/23729/macfuse

I use NTFS-3G for Mac and it works fine.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/fuse-for-macosx/

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:

> --On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:56 PM -0800 Todd Cary
>  wrote:
>
> > I have some photographs on my Centos 4 server that I want to copy
> > to a USB drive.  However, I want to be able to access the files
> > from Windows or Mac OS's.  Where should I look for instructions
> > on how to mount and format the USB drive and is FAT32 the only
> > option?
>
> I don't know about Mac, but you could set up NTFS with Fuse on CentOS to
> allow you to format and mount it as an NTFS filesystem.
>
> You could also format as ext3 and install a filesystem driver on Windows to
> understand ext3.
>
> 
>
> Since the Mac is BSD-based, it might even understand ext3. There's this
> project:
>
> 
>
> I haven't used these, as I haven't needed to export files to another OS
> this way.
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Re: [CentOS] Which file system to use for a USB backup

[Kenneth Porter]

--On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:56 PM -0800 Todd Cary 
 wrote:

> I have some photographs on my Centos 4 server that I want to copy
> to a USB drive.  However, I want to be able to access the files
> from Windows or Mac OS's.  Where should I look for instructions
> on how to mount and format the USB drive and is FAT32 the only
> option?

I don't know about Mac, but you could set up NTFS with Fuse on CentOS to 
allow you to format and mount it as an NTFS filesystem.

You could also format as ext3 and install a filesystem driver on Windows to 
understand ext3.



Since the Mac is BSD-based, it might even understand ext3. There's this 
project:



I haven't used these, as I haven't needed to export files to another OS 
this way.
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Re: [CentOS] Which file system to use for a USB backup

[Dale Dellutri]

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Todd Cary  wrote:
> Les -
>
> A lot of the data needs to be moved in time to servers in other
> organizations (e.g. Rotary) or the data may be used as a
> repository for someone with just a notebook computer who would
> plug the HD into the computer.  This is not my main data backup;
> I use rsync for that.
> http://www.toddcary.com/rotary/ is one example of data that needs
> to be shared.
>
> Can rsync take ext4 data and copy it to a fat32 drive?

Yes, but you have to give up permissions and the modify time on a FAT32 is only
accurate to 2 seconds.  To rsync from an ext3/4 directory to a
plugged-in USB drive
use something like:

  rsync -av --no-p --modify-window=1 / /media///

and you might need --delete.

More info at man rsync.

Another possibility: always use tar, and put something like a Windows version of
7zip executable on the USB drive as well as the data.  That way, Windows users
can get the files out the tar archive.

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Re: [CentOS] Which file system to use for a USB backup

[Les Mikesell]

On 3/9/2011 5:51 PM, Todd Cary wrote:
>
> A lot of the data needs to be moved in time to servers in other
> organizations (e.g. Rotary) or the data may be used as a
> repository for someone with just a notebook computer who would
> plug the HD into the computer.  This is not my main data backup;
> I use rsync for that.
> http://www.toddcary.com/rotary/ is one example of data that needs
> to be shared.
>
> Can rsync take ext4 data and copy it to a fat32 drive?

Sure, it will copy the files, but you'll lose the attributes (owner, 
ctime, etc.) that fat32 doesn't store.  If you need that, you could 
write tar archives up to the 4gb size limit.  But, unless you need to 
work with non-networked computers, I'd just rsync to some common network 
location that also exported via samba.

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Re: [CentOS] Which file system to use for a USB backup

[John R Pierce]

On 03/09/11 3:51 PM, Todd Cary wrote:
> Can rsync take ext4 data and copy it to a fat32 drive?

rsync copies files.


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Re: [CentOS] Which file system to use for a USB backup

[Todd Cary]

Les -

A lot of the data needs to be moved in time to servers in other 
organizations (e.g. Rotary) or the data may be used as a 
repository for someone with just a notebook computer who would 
plug the HD into the computer.  This is not my main data backup; 
I use rsync for that.
http://www.toddcary.com/rotary/ is one example of data that needs 
to be shared.

Can rsync take ext4 data and copy it to a fat32 drive?

Todd

On 3/9/2011 3:16 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 3/9/2011 4:56 PM, Todd Cary wrote:
>> I have some photographs on my Centos 4 server that I want to copy
>> to a USB drive.  However, I want to be able to access the files
>> from Windows or Mac OS's.  Where should I look for instructions
>> on how to mount and format the USB drive and is FAT32 the only
>> option?
> After plugging it in, use 'dmesg' to see the device name that was just
> added and mount it wherever you want.  Maybe you should think about
> switching to Centos 5 (or 6 soon...) which should automount on the desktop.
>
> Fat32 is the only thing that will 'just work' across the different OS's
> and it is OK unless you are handling files>4GB.  But don't you have a
> network for that sort of thing?
>

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Re: [CentOS] Which file system to use for a USB backup

[Les Mikesell]

On 3/9/2011 4:56 PM, Todd Cary wrote:
> I have some photographs on my Centos 4 server that I want to copy
> to a USB drive.  However, I want to be able to access the files
> from Windows or Mac OS's.  Where should I look for instructions
> on how to mount and format the USB drive and is FAT32 the only
> option?

After plugging it in, use 'dmesg' to see the device name that was just 
added and mount it wherever you want.  Maybe you should think about 
switching to Centos 5 (or 6 soon...) which should automount on the desktop.

Fat32 is the only thing that will 'just work' across the different OS's 
and it is OK unless you are handling files >4GB.  But don't you have a 
network for that sort of thing?

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[CentOS] Which file system to use for a USB backup

[Todd Cary]

I have some photographs on my Centos 4 server that I want to copy 
to a USB drive.  However, I want to be able to access the files 
from Windows or Mac OS's.  Where should I look for instructions 
on how to mount and format the USB drive and is FAT32 the only 
option?

Many thanks

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