Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > > I have always wanted a distro in-between long term support and cutting edge I think Debian's testing branch aims to be this sort of thing, I haven't had a need to run testing in years myself. Stable is good enough for me http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ [..]That means that things should not break as badly as in unstable or experimental distributions, because packages are allowed to enter this distribution only after a certain period of time has passed, and when they don't have any release-critical bugs filed against them. Please note that security updates for testing distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, testing does not get security updates in a timely manner. -- If your not upgrading on a very frequent basis I don't think you'd have too many problems. Back when I did run testing for a brief time (about 2001-2002 time frame) I upgraded maybe once every month or two, and never had a problem. If your system(s) operate in a fairly secure environment, security updates may not be as critical. There is often a time of brief instability in the testing branch after a stable release comes out when they re-sync with some of the latest packages. During this time it's probably best to stick with the stable branch, and "switch" back to testing after a good 2-3 months for maximum stability. If your apt configuration is pointed at the distribution name(e.g. "lenny") instead of the state (e.g. "testing") you automatically get upgraded to the next stable release when it comes out(and stay on stable until you explicitly reconfigure apt to point to the next testing version). nate (still working on upgrading RHEL 3 and older RHEL 4 to CentOS 4.6) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
I have always wanted a distro in-between long term support and cutting edge. Say one that uses the kernel/command line part of a long term distro and the gui and gui apps of a cutting edge distro (maybe 1 back from the cutting edge). An kernel upgrade cycle of say 3 years, but a GUI that stays current within it's release. -Ross - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CentOS mailing list Sent: Wed Jul 30 18:22:36 2008 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10? On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > The subject says it all. I'm asking because I've found Fedora 9 to be > buggy as hell - it is one of the worst Fedora releases I've ever used > (and I've been using it since Fedora Core 1). I'm putting up with it > for my work laptop, but it's not fun. :( > > My main home machine is still on Fedora Core 6 and will stay there until > CentOS 6 comes out. I don't want to use CentOS 5 because it's upstream > is based on Fedora Core 6, and I want something new! When CentOS 6 > hits, I will be using it for my work laptop. > > I might just keep Fedora for home my machine. I haven't decided yet if I > want to move up to Fedora 10 or CentOS 6. If you want something new, why do you think when CentOS 6 comes out it will be new ? And for how long ? Either you stick with Fedora/Ubuntu and have something new, or you just want to _use_ your computer and go with something less new like CentOS/Ubuntu LTS. There is no middle path. -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: The subject says it all. I'm asking because I've found Fedora 9 to be buggy as hell - it is one of the worst Fedora releases I've ever used (and I've been using it since Fedora Core 1). I'm putting up with it for my work laptop, but it's not fun. :( My main home machine is still on Fedora Core 6 and will stay there until CentOS 6 comes out. I don't want to use CentOS 5 because it's upstream is based on Fedora Core 6, and I want something new! When CentOS 6 hits, I will be using it for my work laptop. I might just keep Fedora for home my machine. I haven't decided yet if I want to move up to Fedora 10 or CentOS 6. If you want something new, why do you think when CentOS 6 comes out it will be new ? And for how long ? Either you stick with Fedora/Ubuntu and have something new, or you just want to _use_ your computer and go with something less new like CentOS/Ubuntu LTS. There is no middle path. -- -- dag wieers, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 14:42 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > It should have been based on fedora9, however that did not happen. I > heard that it should be based on fedora11, though 12 will be the next > release that is a "3rd" (rh9/fc1 was el3, fc3 was for el4, fc6 was for > el5 ... so f9 should have been el6) > > So my best guess would be f11 or f12. I would think Mar-Jun 2009 would > be the release, which is also around the f11 dates ... but it could be > based on f10. Thanks for the in-depth reply. It's looking more like I will be using CentOS as my main desktop for work and home. :) Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.22.14-72.fc6 i686 GNU/Linux 16:47:03 up 20 days, 17:56, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.42, 0.72 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: Hi All, The subject says it all. I'm asking because I've found Fedora 9 to be buggy as hell - it is one of the worst Fedora releases I've ever used (and I've been using it since Fedora Core 1). I'm putting up with it for my work laptop, but it's not fun. :( My main home machine is still on Fedora Core 6 and will stay there until CentOS 6 comes out. I don't want to use CentOS 5 because it's upstream is based on Fedora Core 6, and I want something new! When CentOS 6 hits, I will be using it for my work laptop. I might just keep Fedora for home my machine. I haven't decided yet if I want to move up to Fedora 10 or CentOS 6. It should have been based on fedora9, however that did not happen. I heard that it should be based on fedora11, though 12 will be the next release that is a "3rd" (rh9/fc1 was el3, fc3 was for el4, fc6 was for el5 ... so f9 should have been el6) So my best guess would be f11 or f12. I would think Mar-Jun 2009 would be the release, which is also around the f11 dates ... but it could be based on f10. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote on Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:19:50 -0400: > RHEL is based on Fedora: hence, my question... then you would want to ask at RH. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > CentOS is based on RHEL, RHEL is based on Fedora: hence, my question... Ask Red Hat. I haven't seen any announcements myself and I would be surprised if they even knew at this point. RHEL 5 is barely a year old. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:58 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > > Try Fedora 8, I know it doesn't have much life in it for updates, but > > it is the most solid Fedora out there right now, and it still is > > getting updates until Christmas. > > > > I personnally could be very happy for a while with RHEL/CentOS based > > on Fedora 8 and wait until KDE 4 and the new init fully bake first. > > My work lappy was on Fedora 7, and it was great! I didn't have any > problems, save for he occasional Evolution crash. Surprisingly, even > Fedora 9 has been overall much buggier for me, Evolution has been much > more stable. Go figure. > > FYI: I use CentOS 5 for all my server stuff, and even for desktop > machines. But, I just don't want it as my main desktop > distribution. :) Give Fedora 8 a try until a better solution presents itself. Just disable the forced pulseaudio alsa config in /etc/alsa/alsa.conf The ConsoleKit in Fedora 8 uses ACLs to allow multiple users switching desktops to share audio which works well if you pull pulseaudio out of the picture. Though for remote audio, pulseaudio works very well, so keep it around for those rare times you do a remote X session (and force pulse through alsa in the kdm/gdm env scripts if it detects a remote session!). -Ross __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 07:41 -0700, nate wrote: > Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > The subject says it all. I'm asking because I've found Fedora 9 to be > > It will be based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6. CentOS is based on RHEL, RHEL is based on Fedora: hence, my question... Regards, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.22.14-72.fc6 i686 GNU/Linux 11:18:57 up 20 days, 12:28, 1 user, load average: 1.78, 1.50, 1.29 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:58 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: > Try Fedora 8, I know it doesn't have much life in it for updates, but > it is the most solid Fedora out there right now, and it still is > getting updates until Christmas. > > I personnally could be very happy for a while with RHEL/CentOS based > on Fedora 8 and wait until KDE 4 and the new init fully bake first. My work lappy was on Fedora 7, and it was great! I didn't have any problems, save for he occasional Evolution crash. Surprisingly, even Fedora 9 has been overall much buggier for me, Evolution has been much more stable. Go figure. FYI: I use CentOS 5 for all my server stuff, and even for desktop machines. But, I just don't want it as my main desktop distribution. :) Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.22.14-72.fc6 i686 GNU/Linux 11:04:42 up 20 days, 12:14, 1 user, load average: 2.35, 1.58, 1.04 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
RE: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > > Hi All, > > The subject says it all. I'm asking because I've found Fedora 9 to be > buggy as hell - it is one of the worst Fedora releases I've ever used > (and I've been using it since Fedora Core 1). I'm putting up with it > for my work laptop, but it's not fun. :( Agree, that's why I use Fedora 8 on my workstations. As current as not to bleed out. > My main home machine is still on Fedora Core 6 and will stay there until > CentOS 6 comes out. I don't want to use CentOS 5 because it's upstream > is based on Fedora Core 6, and I want something new! When CentOS 6 > hits, I will be using it for my work laptop. I hope Redhat doesn't base it on Fedora 9, too much radical technology for it to fit nicely with the current corporate setup. Some of that technology needs to be more widely adopted first with the bleeding edge distros for at least 2 more releases. > I might just keep Fedora for home my machine. I haven't decided yet if I > want to move up to Fedora 10 or CentOS 6. Try Fedora 8, I know it doesn't have much life in it for updates, but it is the most solid Fedora out there right now, and it still is getting updates until Christmas. I personnally could be very happy for a while with RHEL/CentOS based on Fedora 8 and wait until KDE 4 and the new init fully bake first. -Ross __ This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy or printout thereof. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
I read this question as being Will RHEL 6 be based on Fedora 10? On 7/30/08 9:45 AM, "Rudi Ahlers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> The subject says it all. I'm asking because I've found Fedora 9 to be >> buggy as hell - it is one of the worst Fedora releases I've ever used >> (and I've been using it since Fedora Core 1). I'm putting up with it >> for my work laptop, but it's not fun. :( >> >> My main home machine is still on Fedora Core 6 and will stay there until >> CentOS 6 comes out. I don't want to use CentOS 5 because it's upstream >> is based on Fedora Core 6, and I want something new! When CentOS 6 >> hits, I will be using it for my work laptop. >> >> I might just keep Fedora for home my machine. I haven't decided yet if I >> want to move up to Fedora 10 or CentOS 6. >> >> Regards, >> >> Ranbir >> > Not likely. Fedora Core is a different branch than CentOS, and it has a > lot of different stuff (ideas, software, etc) which CentOS doesn't have. > CentOS is mainly based on the Red Hat Enterprise branch. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
nate wrote: Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: Hi All, The subject says it all. I'm asking because I've found Fedora 9 to be It will be based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6. nate Just saw this article, which seems relevant to the topic at hand: http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/07/29/whats-next-in-red-hat-enterprise-linux-part-1/ -Greg ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: Hi All, The subject says it all. I'm asking because I've found Fedora 9 to be buggy as hell - it is one of the worst Fedora releases I've ever used (and I've been using it since Fedora Core 1). I'm putting up with it for my work laptop, but it's not fun. :( My main home machine is still on Fedora Core 6 and will stay there until CentOS 6 comes out. I don't want to use CentOS 5 because it's upstream is based on Fedora Core 6, and I want something new! When CentOS 6 hits, I will be using it for my work laptop. I might just keep Fedora for home my machine. I haven't decided yet if I want to move up to Fedora 10 or CentOS 6. Regards, Ranbir Not likely. Fedora Core is a different branch than CentOS, and it has a lot of different stuff (ideas, software, etc) which CentOS doesn't have. CentOS is mainly based on the Red Hat Enterprise branch. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers Check out my technical blog, http://blog.softdux.com for Linux or other technical stuff ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: > Hi All, > > The subject says it all. I'm asking because I've found Fedora 9 to be It will be based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Will CentOS 6's upstream be based on Fedora 10?
Hi All, The subject says it all. I'm asking because I've found Fedora 9 to be buggy as hell - it is one of the worst Fedora releases I've ever used (and I've been using it since Fedora Core 1). I'm putting up with it for my work laptop, but it's not fun. :( My main home machine is still on Fedora Core 6 and will stay there until CentOS 6 comes out. I don't want to use CentOS 5 because it's upstream is based on Fedora Core 6, and I want something new! When CentOS 6 hits, I will be using it for my work laptop. I might just keep Fedora for home my machine. I haven't decided yet if I want to move up to Fedora 10 or CentOS 6. Regards, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Linux 2.6.22.14-72.fc6 i686 GNU/Linux 10:30:46 up 20 days, 11:40, 1 user, load average: 0.77, 0.79, 0.72 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
