Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 on optiplex 745

2010-06-29 Thread Tony Molloy
On Monday 28 June 2010 12:58:36 Janez Kosmrlj wrote:
 Hi,
 we have some old dell optiplex 745 machines which have the Intel 965q
 chipset. The problem is, that they freeze as soon as the system tries to
 start the X system. It happens even before any log is written. This happens
 almost every time (for some reason it sometimes work, but 99% it fails).
 When i change the graphic driver in xorg.conf from intel to vesa it mostly
 works, but still i sometimes get a flickering screen, but this can mostly
 be resolved using ctrl+alt+backspace (sometimes you have to try this
 twice). We use the 1024x768 and 24 bit colors, so this shouldn't be the
 problem.
 
 Does anyone know a fix for this problem?
 
 Janez

Janez,

I seem to remember having a similar problem with a lab full of those machines 
some years ago. They were running an earlier version of Fedora. What we had to 
do was upgrade the BIOS. They are now running Fedora-11 with BIOS ver 2.6.2

Hope this helps,

Tony
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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 on optiplex 745

2010-06-29 Thread Dicker, Edwin
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
Behalf Of Janez Kosmrlj
Sent: maandag 28 juni 2010 13:59
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Subject: [CentOS] centos 5.5 on optiplex 745

Hi,
we have some old dell optiplex 745 machines which have the Intel 965q
chipset. The problem is, that they freeze as soon as the system tries to
start the X system. It happens even before any log is written. This
happens almost every time (for some reason it sometimes work, but 99% it
fails). When i change the graphic driver in xorg.conf from intel to vesa
it mostly works, but still i sometimes get a flickering screen, but this
can mostly be resolved using ctrl+alt+backspace (sometimes you have to
try this twice). We use the 1024x768 and 24 bit colors, so this
shouldn't be the problem. 

Does anyone know a fix for this problem?

__

This is an issue with the graphics, it gets initialized in the wrong way
( driver ) The installer does not recognize the correct video chip
during install.
If you boot the system in runlevel 3 and then change the driver to i810
in the device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf :

Section Device
Identifier  Videocard0
Driver  i810
EndSection

Good luck,
Edwin

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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 on optiplex 745

2010-06-29 Thread Janez Kosmrlj
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Dicker, Edwin edic...@illumina.comwrote:


 This is an issue with the graphics, it gets initialized in the wrong way
 ( driver ) The installer does not recognize the correct video chip
 during install.
 If you boot the system in runlevel 3 and then change the driver to i810
 in the device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf :

 Section Device
Identifier  Videocard0
Driver  i810
 EndSection

 Good luck,
 Edwin

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I tried both things. The bios update and the i810 driver and nothing worked.


After the bios update the vesa driver seems a bit more stable, but still not
100%.

And with the i810 driver it doesnt work at all. When X starts the screen
starts to blink and does this forever (it didn't stop after 15 minutes, i
didn't wait longer). When i looked at the Xorg log it says that the i810
driver is not the correct one for this chipset and that i should use the
intel driver instead.

Janez
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Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 on optiplex 745

2010-06-29 Thread Dicker, Edwin

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I tried both things. The bios update and the i810 driver and nothing
worked. 

After the bios update the vesa driver seems a bit more stable, but still
not 100%. 

And with the i810 driver it doesnt work at all. When X starts the screen
starts to blink and does this forever (it didn't stop after 15 minutes,
i didn't wait longer). When i looked at the Xorg log it says that the
i810 driver is not the correct one for this chipset and that i should
use the intel driver instead.

Janez

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Could it be that Dell has different types of Graphics controllers in
their Optiplexes? It did work in my model. I've been installing with 5.3
x86_64. The same redhat version though did not show any problems.

Here's output of my lspci, maybe you can see some differences.

[r...@doos ~]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Memory Controller Hub
(rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 PCI Express Root Port
(rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82Q963/Q965 Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express
Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express
Port 5 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI
Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev f2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HB/HR (ICH8/R) LPC Interface
Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 4 port
SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller
(rev 02)
00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) 2 port
SATA IDE Controller (rev 02)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5721
Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 21)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5754
Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)

Cheers,
Edwin
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[CentOS] centos 5.5 on optiplex 745

2010-06-28 Thread Janez Kosmrlj
Hi,
we have some old dell optiplex 745 machines which have the Intel 965q
chipset. The problem is, that they freeze as soon as the system tries to
start the X system. It happens even before any log is written. This happens
almost every time (for some reason it sometimes work, but 99% it fails).
When i change the graphic driver in xorg.conf from intel to vesa it mostly
works, but still i sometimes get a flickering screen, but this can mostly be
resolved using ctrl+alt+backspace (sometimes you have to try this twice). We
use the 1024x768 and 24 bit colors, so this shouldn't be the problem.

Does anyone know a fix for this problem?

Janez
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