Re: [CentOS] centos6 - failsafe terminal on login screen

2012-10-04 Thread James Pearson
Miranda Hawarden-Ogata wrote:
 
 If I just have Exec=/usr/bin/xterm in failsafe.desktop I can get the xterm 
 to appear with just a normal prompt, with no automatic script execution.
 
 If I put Exec=/usr/bin/xterm -e ssh guest@server it pops up a second 
 password entry but then kicks out after the password is entered.
 
 If I put anything else in the Exec field, I just get a regular gnome 
 desktop.
 
 I'm not sure what else to try, or how to get the script to run in the xterm 
 automatically... there's probably something really silly that I'm missing, 
 but at this point I've been staring at this so long I'm just not seeing it.

You could write a simple script that does all you need and just call 
this script via the Exec=... line - this is actually what I do in my 
failsafe.desktop file - although I don't know if this will help in your case

James Pearson
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 - failsafe terminal on login screen

2012-10-04 Thread Miranda Hawarden-Ogata
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:54 AM, James Pearson
jame...@moving-picture.com wrote:
 Miranda Hawarden-Ogata wrote:

 If I just have Exec=/usr/bin/xterm in failsafe.desktop I can get the xterm
 to appear with just a normal prompt, with no automatic script execution.

 If I put Exec=/usr/bin/xterm -e ssh guest@server it pops up a second
 password entry but then kicks out after the password is entered.

 If I put anything else in the Exec field, I just get a regular gnome
 desktop.

 I'm not sure what else to try, or how to get the script to run in the xterm
 automatically... there's probably something really silly that I'm missing,
 but at this point I've been staring at this so long I'm just not seeing it.

 You could write a simple script that does all you need and just call
 this script via the Exec=... line - this is actually what I do in my
 failsafe.desktop file - although I don't know if this will help in your case

 James Pearson

Thanks, James, that did the trick. So now I have set up two desktops,
one a vanilla xterm and the other specifically for this purpose, runs
my script in a gnome-terminal and it appears to be working properly,
no funky pop-ups or anything. Thanks again for your help!

Thanks!
Miranda
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 - failsafe terminal on login screen

2012-10-04 Thread Nathan Duehr
 Thanks, James, that did the trick. So now I have set up two desktops,
 one a vanilla xterm and the other specifically for this purpose, runs
 my script in a gnome-terminal and it appears to be working properly,
 no funky pop-ups or anything. Thanks again for your help!

Glad you got it working Miranda.  A silly side-question... 

Would a regular ol' text console have done what was needed?  CTRL-ALT-F1... 

Did your users need the real-estate of an X based terminal in the recovery 
console?

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Re: [CentOS] centos6 - failsafe terminal on login screen

2012-10-04 Thread Miranda Hawarden-Ogata
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Nathan Duehr denverpi...@me.com wrote:
 Thanks, James, that did the trick. So now I have set up two desktops,
 one a vanilla xterm and the other specifically for this purpose, runs
 my script in a gnome-terminal and it appears to be working properly,
 no funky pop-ups or anything. Thanks again for your help!

 Glad you got it working Miranda.  A silly side-question...

 Would a regular ol' text console have done what was needed?  CTRL-ALT-F1...

 Did your users need the real-estate of an X based terminal in the recovery 
 console?

 --
 Nate Duehr
 denverpi...@me.com

Nate, to be honest I'm not 100% sure, but I think it would not... the
script needs to be functional whether the user is sshing in from a
remote location or sitting at the workstation, and it needs to be
automatic. As soon as they log in as that user, it runs the guest user
creation script and verifies that they are permitted to create an
account at this time. Also, the main server is completely blocked by
the firewall, so the user leapfrogs over by sshing to the one
computer with external ssh access which then ssh the user over to the
main server where they can do the account set up. Currently the same
script works whether they sit down at a console and log in as the
creation user or if they remotely login, and it needs to stay like
that, otherwise it gets too messy to maintain.

Not sure if I answered your question or not :)

Thanks!
Miranda
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 - failsafe terminal on login screen

2012-10-04 Thread Nathan Duehr
On Oct 4, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Miranda Hawarden-Ogata hawar...@ifa.hawaii.edu 
wrote:

 Not sure if I answered your question or not :)

Yep, you did.  I thought you were helping folks who were always sitting at a 
physical machine console.

Disregard all after Good afternoon!  GRIN... the comment didn't apply to 
remote setup over the network.

Best regards,

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Re: [CentOS] centos6 - failsafe terminal on login screen

2012-10-03 Thread Miranda Hawarden-Ogata
- Original Message - 
From: James Pearson jame...@moving-picture.com
 fred smith wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 05:36:19PM -1000, Miranda Hawarden-Ogata wrote:

I have some clients that run centos6 and I need to have users be able to
access the failsafe terminal from the login screen. The old options 
(from
4/5) for choosing your session aren't present. I've googled a bit on this
but don't seem to be using a good search string as most of the hits have
nothing to do with this and the rest aren't helpful.

So, just wondering if anyone knows what I need to do to turn on session
choosing from the login screen, and how to include the failsafe terminal.


 so, if I understand correctly, you want to be able to choosoe Gnome,
 XFCE, etc., etc. from the login screen, right?

 the feature is there, but it doesn't show up until you've chosen a 
 username
 either from the list displayed, or entered one manually. so, enter a user
 ID and then choose, before completing the password.

 If you install xorg-x11-xinit-session you get a option once you've
 entered a username that will run your ~/.xsession or ~/.Xclients files
 (if they exist)

 You can use the file it installs
 (/usr/share/xsessions/xinit-compat.desktop) as a template to create your
 own 'desktop' file that will start what you like - I have a
 /usr/share/xsessions/failsafe.desktop file that just starts xterm

 James Pearson

Thanks for the tips, James and Fred. I was able to get the failsafe session 
offered as a login option... but I am now running into problems having the 
secondary script execute within the xterm. The way the setup used to work on 
centos4, a user walks up to the computer, logs in on the guest user creation 
account and if they are not logging in on the main server, the account shell 
logs them into the main server and then executes the guest user creation 
script. On the centos6 machines, it is refusing to work that way.

If I just have Exec=/usr/bin/xterm in failsafe.desktop I can get the xterm 
to appear with just a normal prompt, with no automatic script execution.

If I put Exec=/usr/bin/xterm -e ssh guest@server it pops up a second 
password entry but then kicks out after the password is entered.

If I put anything else in the Exec field, I just get a regular gnome 
desktop.

I'm not sure what else to try, or how to get the script to run in the xterm 
automatically... there's probably something really silly that I'm missing, 
but at this point I've been staring at this so long I'm just not seeing it.

Thanks!
Miranda

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Re: [CentOS] centos6 - failsafe terminal on login screen

2012-09-28 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 05:36:19PM -1000, Miranda Hawarden-Ogata wrote:
 I have some clients that run centos6 and I need to have users be able to 
 access the failsafe terminal from the login screen. The old options (from 
 4/5) for choosing your session aren't present. I've googled a bit on this 
 but don't seem to be using a good search string as most of the hits have 
 nothing to do with this and the rest aren't helpful.
 
 So, just wondering if anyone knows what I need to do to turn on session 
 choosing from the login screen, and how to include the failsafe terminal.

so, if I understand correctly, you want to be able to choosoe Gnome,
XFCE, etc., etc. from the login screen, right?

the feature is there, but it doesn't show up until you've chosen a username
either from the list displayed, or entered one manually. so, enter a user
ID and then choose, before completing the password.

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  Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He 
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  it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever.
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 - failsafe terminal on login screen

2012-09-28 Thread James Pearson
fred smith wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 05:36:19PM -1000, Miranda Hawarden-Ogata wrote:
 
I have some clients that run centos6 and I need to have users be able to 
access the failsafe terminal from the login screen. The old options (from 
4/5) for choosing your session aren't present. I've googled a bit on this 
but don't seem to be using a good search string as most of the hits have 
nothing to do with this and the rest aren't helpful.

So, just wondering if anyone knows what I need to do to turn on session 
choosing from the login screen, and how to include the failsafe terminal.
 
 
 so, if I understand correctly, you want to be able to choosoe Gnome,
 XFCE, etc., etc. from the login screen, right?
 
 the feature is there, but it doesn't show up until you've chosen a username
 either from the list displayed, or entered one manually. so, enter a user
 ID and then choose, before completing the password.

If you install xorg-x11-xinit-session you get a option once you've 
entered a username that will run your ~/.xsession or ~/.Xclients files 
(if they exist)

You can use the file it installs 
(/usr/share/xsessions/xinit-compat.desktop) as a template to create your 
own 'desktop' file that will start what you like - I have a 
/usr/share/xsessions/failsafe.desktop file that just starts xterm

James Pearson

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[CentOS] centos6 - failsafe terminal on login screen

2012-09-27 Thread Miranda Hawarden-Ogata
I have some clients that run centos6 and I need to have users be able to 
access the failsafe terminal from the login screen. The old options (from 
4/5) for choosing your session aren't present. I've googled a bit on this 
but don't seem to be using a good search string as most of the hits have 
nothing to do with this and the rest aren't helpful.

So, just wondering if anyone knows what I need to do to turn on session 
choosing from the login screen, and how to include the failsafe terminal.

Thanks!
Miranda 

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