Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-28 Thread Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair, 5.4.4.4
If anyone really needs to do this, there is a patch in the gdm srpm
called plymoth.patch that changes the parameters.  It's located on line
225.  If you change that to what you need and recompile it, it should
work.  Not that I recommend this...

Regards,

Stephen Jamieson

-Original Message-
From: Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair, 5.4.4.4 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:17 PM
To: 'centos@centos.org'
Subject: centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

In CentOS5 you were able to create a server section in
/etc/gdm/custom.conf such as

[server-Standard]
name=Standard server
command=/usr/bin/Xorg -br -audit 4 -s 15 
chooser=false 
handled=true
flexible=true
priority=0

After this change, Xorg would run with the -br -audit 4 -s 15 options. 

Unfortunately in CentOS6 this is not the case. It completely ignores
anything put into custom.conf as far as I can tell.  It appears to run
with -nr -verbose -auth -nolisten tcp by default.  Is there any way to
modify this?

Regards,

Stephen Jamieson
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-24 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message -
| In CentOS5 you were able to create a server section in
| /etc/gdm/custom.conf such as
| 
| [server-Standard]
| name=Standard server
| command=/usr/bin/Xorg -br -audit 4 -s 15
| chooser=false
| handled=true
| flexible=true
| priority=0
| 
| After this change, Xorg would run with the -br -audit 4 -s 15 options.
| 
| Unfortunately in CentOS6 this is not the case. It completely ignores
| anything put into custom.conf as far as I can tell. It appears to run
| with -nr -verbose -auth -nolisten tcp by default. Is there any way to
| modify this?
| 
| Regards,
| 
| Stephen Jamieson

much of this functionality has moved into the gconf2 stuff so you use gconf2 to 
disable things like user visibility and such things

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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-23 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Lamar Owen  wrote:
> On Friday, July 22, 2011 02:10:22 PM Tom H wrote:
>>
>> You can use "sudo -u gdm gconftool-2
>> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list --set --type=boolean true"
>> because the "gdm" user controls the login screen but the above works
>> too because it makes that setting default for all users. You can also
>> make it mandatory with "gconftool-2 --config-source
>> xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory
>> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list --set --type=boolean true".
>
> Thanks for the full syntax; even though this is one of the first things
> I do on all new installs.
>
> Since my normal use machine runs KDE, and I use KDM on it, it's
> not something that I have to deal with on my own box

You're welcome. I've given up on GNOME (even Unity) for this and other reasons.

KDE just feels too alien so I'm using LXDE or Fluxbox...
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-23 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair,
5.4.4.4  wrote:
>
>> Those options are no longer supported in GDM. I think that they were
>> removed with GDM 2.24 (at the latest, probably 2.22) and C6 is running
>> GDM 2.30.
>
> That is unfortunate... I suppose I will just have to ignore this issue
> then.
>
>> in "/etc/gdm/custom.conf" to override the "-nolisten tcp" but I have
>> no idea about "-br -audit 4 -s 15".
>
> Thanks for your help.  I really wish someone know where I could edit
> those parameters.

You're welcome. I've just tried to poke around and find out how but
didn't get anywhere...
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-22 Thread m . roth
Tom H wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Lamar Owen  wrote:
>> On Friday, July 22, 2011 12:22:31 PM Gerhard Schneider wrote:
>>>
>>> Using gdm is getting harder and harder but you can try:

And in kde, menu->settings->system settings->advanced->login manager. I
haven't logged out yet to test it, but this looks like the answer.

   mark, likes gnome less than kde

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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-22 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, July 22, 2011 02:10:22 PM Tom H wrote:
> You can use "sudo -u gdm gconftool-2
> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list --set --type=boolean true"
> because the "gdm" user controls the login screen but the above works
> too because it makes that setting default for all users. You can also
> make it mandatory with "gconftool-2 --config-source
> xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory
> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list --set --type=boolean true".

Thanks for the full syntax; even though this is one of the first things I do on 
all new installs (whether CentOS, Fedora, or even Ubuntu; anything using gdm), 
I always seem to have to look it up and Akemi's page is one of my bookmarks 
for that reason

Since my normal use machine runs KDE, and I use KDM on it, it's not something 
that I have to deal with on my own box
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-22 Thread m . roth
Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Tom H  wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:29 PM,   wrote:
>
 In later Fedora releases, GDM has become less and less functional:
 configurability has been removed, more so as releases occur. From my
 (known to be flaky) memory, that includes the ability to turn off the
 silly list that exposes usernames right on the login screen, the
 ability
>>>
>>> And that makes it inappropriate for US gov't work (violates official
>>> std), and actually anywhere that you have a concern about security.
>>
>> It's pretty weird that RH didn't change the GNOME upstream default of
>> exposing the usernames. I presume that RH doesn't care about the

> Alan Bartlett filed a bug report upstream and you can see their response:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=666220

Wonder if it's worthwhile asking my boss to try to reopen the bug, given
that a) he's a federal employee, and b) does have authority for what runs
in this division

mark, speaking only for myself, not my employer nor the US
Federal gov't

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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-22 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Lamar Owen  wrote:
> On Friday, July 22, 2011 12:22:31 PM Gerhard Schneider wrote:
>>
>> Using gdm is getting harder and harder but you can try:
>>
>> gconftool-2 --direct \
>>   --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults \
>>   --type bool --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true
>>
>> There are many features available via gconftool-2 or gconf-editor only.
>
> Some are only available if you run them as the right user, as well.
> If I'm not mistaken, for gdm that would be the user 'gdm'.
> So you need to run that above as user gdm with su -c $command gdm
> or similar.

You can use "sudo -u gdm gconftool-2
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list --set --type=boolean true"
because the "gdm" user controls the login screen but the above works
too because it makes that setting default for all users. You can also
make it mandatory with "gconftool-2 --config-source
xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list --set --type=boolean true".
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-22 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Tom H  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:29 PM,   wrote:

>>> In later Fedora releases, GDM has become less and less functional:
>>> configurability has been removed, more so as releases occur. From my
>>> (known to be flaky) memory, that includes the ability to turn off the
>>> silly list that exposes usernames right on the login screen, the ability
>>
>> And that makes it inappropriate for US gov't work (violates official std),
>> and actually anywhere that you have a concern about security.
>
> It's pretty weird that RH didn't change the GNOME upstream default of
> exposing the usernames. I presume that RH doesn't care about the
> desktop enough in an enterprise setting. It's easy enough to change
> with a gconftool-2 invocation but "even" Apple allows its users to
> switch from a "click on an icon/name" login to a "type your name"
> login within the OS X GUI. The GNOME developers' choices are difficult
> to understand, IMHO.

Alan Bartlett filed a bug report upstream and you can see their response:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=666220

I put together a short instruction on how to change the default behavior:

http://blog.toracat.org/2011/01/gnome-login-shows-all-valid-user-accounts-disable-it/

... and Tom H kindly added his note. :-)

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-22 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, July 22, 2011 12:22:31 PM Gerhard Schneider wrote:
> Using gdm is getting harder and harder but you can try:
> 
> gconftool-2 --direct \
>   --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults \
>   --type bool --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true
> 
> There are many features available via gconftool-2 or gconf-editor only.

Some are only available if you run them as the right user, as well.  If I'm not 
mistaken, for gdm that would be the user 'gdm'.  So you need to run that above 
as user gdm with su -c $command gdm or similar.
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-22 Thread Gerhard Schneider
> In later Fedora releases, GDM has become less and less functional:
> configurability has been removed, more so as releases occur. From my
> (known to be flaky) memory, that includes the ability to turn off the
> silly list that exposes usernames right on the login screen, the
> ability to assign your own wallpaper to the login screen, among other
> things.

Using gdm is getting harder and harder but you can try:

gconftool-2 --direct \
  --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults \
  --type bool --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true

There are many features available via gconftool-2 or gconf-editor only.

GS

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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-22 Thread Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair, 5.4.4.4

> Those options are no longer supported in GDM. I think that they were
> removed with GDM 2.24 (at the latest, probably 2.22) and C6 is running
> GDM 2.30.

That is unfortunate... I suppose I will just have to ignore this issue
then.

> in "/etc/gdm/custom.conf" to override the "-nolisten tcp" but I have
> no idea about "-br -audit 4 -s 15".

Thanks for your help.  I really wish someone know where I could edit
those parameters.  

Regards,

Stephen Jamieson

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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-21 Thread James Szinger
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:17:10 -0400
fred smith  wrote:
 
> In later Fedora releases, GDM has become less and less functional:
> configurability has been removed, more so as releases occur. From my
> (known to be flaky) memory, that includes the ability to turn off the
> silly list that exposes usernames right on the login screen, the
> ability to assign your own wallpaper to the login screen, among other
> things.

There is a gconf setting to turn off the list of users.  I've haven't
tried it under CentOS 6, but it works under Fedora 14.  I don't know
how to fix the wallpaper except by changing the picture behind RPM's
back.   Or, up until F14, I was using a recompiled version of the 
CentOS 5 gdm rpm---that might work for C6.

Fortunately, the C6 wallpaper is good enough that I don't feel compelled
to tweak it.

> In some releases you can hack your way around whatever the missing
> feature is that you're missing by using gconf-editor, in others you
> can't.

The user list preference was broken for all of Fedora 13.  Blech.

There is a long open gnome bus to restore the gdm setting tool that
went away around 2.22.  The chances of having it back for gnome 2 are
vanishingly small.  I'm not holding my breath for the gnome 3 version
either.

> So, my guess is that RHEL/Centos 6 has inherited the later Gnome
> "features" that have removed the feature you want.

It's a sad day when Mac OS X is easier to customize than a Linux system.

Jim
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-21 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:29 PM,   wrote:
> fred smith wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 02:17:28PM -0400, Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair,
>> 5.4.4.4 wrote:
>>
>>> In CentOS5 you were able to create a server section in
>>> /etc/gdm/custom.conf such as
>>
>> In later Fedora releases, GDM has become less and less functional:
>> configurability has been removed, more so as releases occur. From my
>> (known to be flaky) memory, that includes the ability to turn off the
>> silly list that exposes usernames right on the login screen, the ability
>
> And that makes it inappropriate for US gov't work (violates official std),
> and actually anywhere that you have a concern about security.

It's pretty weird that RH didn't change the GNOME upstream default of
exposing the usernames. I presume that RH doesn't care about the
desktop enough in an enterprise setting. It's easy enough to change
with a gconftool-2 invocation but "even" Apple allows its users to
switch from a "click on an icon/name" login to a "type your name"
login within the OS X GUI. The GNOME developers' choices are difficult
to understand, IMHO.
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-21 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair, 5.4.4.4
 wrote:
>
> In CentOS5 you were able to create a server section in /etc/gdm/custom.conf 
> such as
>
> [server-Standard]
> name=Standard server
> command=/usr/bin/Xorg -br -audit 4 -s 15
> chooser=false
> handled=true
> flexible=true
> priority=0
>
> After this change, Xorg would run with the -br -audit 4 -s 15 options.
>
> Unfortunately in CentOS6 this is not the case. It completely ignores anything 
> put into
> custom.conf as far as I can tell. It appears to run with -nr -verbose -auth 
> -nolisten tcp
> by default. Is there any way to modify this?

Those options are no longer supported in GDM. I think that they were
removed with GDM 2.24 (at the latest, probably 2.22) and C6 is running
GDM 2.30.

You can use

[security]
DisallowTCP=false

in "/etc/gdm/custom.conf" to override the "-nolisten tcp" but I have
no idea about "-br -audit 4 -s 15".

"chooser=false" and "handled=true" are the default (as far as I
remember what they stand for!); no idea about "flexible=true" (I can't
remember what it stands is for!).
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-21 Thread m . roth
fred smith wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 02:17:28PM -0400, Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair,
> 5.4.4.4 wrote:
>> In CentOS5 you were able to create a server section in
>> /etc/gdm/custom.conf such as
>>

> In later Fedora releases, GDM has become less and less functional:
> configurability has been removed, more so as releases occur. From my
> (known to be flaky) memory, that includes the ability to turn off the
> silly list that exposes usernames right on the login screen, the ability

And that makes it inappropriate for US gov't work (violates official std),
and actually anywhere that you have a concern about security.

> to assign your own wallpaper to the login screen, among other things.

Ah, yes, creeping M$-ism. Just like the urge to make stuff look more and
more like the Evil Empire from Redmond, without the *option* to look like
bloody Linux.

mark

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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-21 Thread fred smith
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 02:17:28PM -0400, Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair, 5.4.4.4 
wrote:
> In CentOS5 you were able to create a server section in /etc/gdm/custom.conf 
> such as
> 
> [server-Standard]
> name=Standard server
> command=/usr/bin/Xorg -br -audit 4 -s 15 
> chooser=false 
> handled=true
> flexible=true
> priority=0
> 
> After this change, Xorg would run with the -br -audit 4 -s 15 options. 
> 
> Unfortunately in CentOS6 this is not the case. It completely ignores anything 
> put into custom.conf as far as I can tell.  It appears to run with -nr 
> -verbose -auth -nolisten tcp by default.  Is there any way to modify this?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephen Jamieson

In later Fedora releases, GDM has become less and less functional:
configurability has been removed, more so as releases occur. From my
(known to be flaky) memory, that includes the ability to turn off the
silly list that exposes usernames right on the login screen, the ability
to assign your own wallpaper to the login screen, among other things.

In some releases you can hack your way around whatever the missing
feature is that you're missing by using gconf-editor, in others you can't.

So, my guess is that RHEL/Centos 6 has inherited the later Gnome
"features" that have removed the feature you want.

Fred

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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-21 Thread Dejan
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:17, Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair, 5.4.4.4
 wrote:
> In CentOS5 you were able to create a server section in /etc/gdm/custom.conf 
> such as
>
> [server-Standard]
> name=Standard server
> command=/usr/bin/Xorg -br -audit 4 -s 15
> chooser=false
> handled=true
> flexible=true
> priority=0
>
> After this change, Xorg would run with the -br -audit 4 -s 15 options.
>
> Unfortunately in CentOS6 this is not the case. It completely ignores anything 
> put into custom.conf as far as I can tell.  It appears to run with -nr 
> -verbose -auth -nolisten tcp by default.  Is there any way to modify this?
>

I just installed CentOS 6 on Monday and at least the daemon section was honored:
I have this:
[daemon]
AutomaticLoginEnable=True
AutomaticLogin=mythtv
TimedLoginEnable=true
TimedLogin=mythtv
TimedLoginDelay=30

And my MythTV account logs in without delay on boot and after 30
seconds if you logout and leave the console idle.

Deyan
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Re: [CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:17:28 -0400
Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair, 5.4.4.4 wrote:

> Is there any way to modify this?

There are some gdm settings in gconf-editor (yum install gconf-editor and run it
as root) but I don't know how comprehensive they are.

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[CentOS] centos6 not using /etc/gdm/custom.conf

2011-07-21 Thread Jamieson, Stephen CTR Navair, 5.4.4.4
In CentOS5 you were able to create a server section in /etc/gdm/custom.conf 
such as

[server-Standard]
name=Standard server
command=/usr/bin/Xorg -br -audit 4 -s 15 
chooser=false 
handled=true
flexible=true
priority=0

After this change, Xorg would run with the -br -audit 4 -s 15 options. 

Unfortunately in CentOS6 this is not the case. It completely ignores anything 
put into custom.conf as far as I can tell.  It appears to run with -nr -verbose 
-auth -nolisten tcp by default.  Is there any way to modify this?

Regards,

Stephen Jamieson


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