Re: [CentOS] coordinated NIS and LDAP servers

2011-11-09 Thread Ross Walker
On Nov 4, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello listmates,
 We are currently running NIS for authentication but would like to
 migrate to LDAP. Thing is, though, that some of the machines that
 authenticate via NIS are so old I'd rather not even touch them.
 Hence the question - is there a good way to have an NIS server for
 user authentication that is a mirror image of an LDAP server, with a
 proviso that an update introduced there is replicated in the LDAP
 server's databases?

You could have the NIS maps setup by your capable LDAP clients. Use getent on 
those boxes and filter out the local accounts, set them up as NIS servers but 
make sure they don't reference both NIS and LDAP.

In my environment I have my NIS servers use winbind to get AD accounts into NIS 
as winbind will map Windows UUIDs to UIDs and GIDs. Just customized the map 
building scripts to use getent and filtered out the local accounts.

If I migrate over to OpenLDAP in the future I merely change this on the NIS 
servers. I could also merge both AD and OpenLDAP if UIDs and GIDs don't collide.

All authentication is handled by Kerberos, so password management doesn't need 
to fit in, the only thing that might require extra config is the shell 
management stuff. I just standardize on bash across the board here.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] coordinated NIS and LDAP servers

2011-11-09 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/08/11 3:56 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 If you are set on using CentOS, I think you will need to use the RedHat IPA
   product instead. But the only success stories that I am familiar with are
   from the v1.x IPA product, which is old.
   
   http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-build-rhel-ipa-rpms-for-centos-5
   
 I'm surprised FreeIPA isn't in EPEL.  Maybe this is because it's a
 layered product offering by RHEL?

ipa-server is in centos6 'CR' and will be in 6.1   its currently 2.0.0 
which is a lot more comprehensive than 1.x was.   I do note the IPA 
project is up to 2.1, maybe rpmforge or someone can start rolling these 
up for us all.

I started reading about FreeIPA last night and am real interested in 
firing up a test instance in my lab at work, which is an unholy mess of 
linux (assorted versions), solaris, and a few windows servers.

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santa cruz ca mid-left coast

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Re: [CentOS] coordinated NIS and LDAP servers

2011-11-08 Thread Boris Epstein
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Jonathan Nilsson jnils...@uci.edu wrote:


 You're welcome!  I have used FreeIPA in the past with great success (though 
 not specifically as an NIS data source). So if you do pursue FreeIPA, I 
 highly recommend joining their separate mailing list freeipa-us...@redhat.com
 https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
 They have a very active development community that will be able to help you 
 get up and running.
 To get you started, I recommend that you try installing it on a Fedora 
 server, rather than CentOS (people have reported being able to build and 
 install on CentOS 5, but yum install is easier on Fedora).
 Good luck!
 --
 jonathan

Jonathan,

Did you get this for CentOS. I've got CentOS 5.6. Would you know if
there is a repository for that that contains FreeIPA?

Boris.
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Re: [CentOS] coordinated NIS and LDAP servers

2011-11-08 Thread Jonathan Nilsson
I have not used FreeIPA on CentOS. As I said previously, I highly recommend
using Fedora servers as your FreeIPA servers, because it will install much
easier and you should be able to get support from the freeipa-users mailing
list.

If you are set on using CentOS, I think you will need to use the RedHat IPA
product instead. But the only success stories that I am familiar with are
from the v1.x IPA product, which is old.

http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-build-rhel-ipa-rpms-for-centos-5

--
Jonathan

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Jonathan Nilsson jnils...@uci.edu wrote:

 
  You're welcome!  I have used FreeIPA in the past with great success
 (though not specifically as an NIS data source). So if you do pursue
 FreeIPA, I highly recommend joining their separate mailing list
 freeipa-us...@redhat.com
  https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
  They have a very active development community that will be able to help
 you get up and running.
  To get you started, I recommend that you try installing it on a Fedora
 server, rather than CentOS (people have reported being able to build and
 install on CentOS 5, but yum install is easier on Fedora).
  Good luck!
  --
  jonathan

 Jonathan,

 Did you get this for CentOS. I've got CentOS 5.6. Would you know if
 there is a repository for that that contains FreeIPA?

 Boris.




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Re: [CentOS] coordinated NIS and LDAP servers

2011-11-08 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 03:50:07PM -0800, Jonathan Nilsson wrote:
 I have not used FreeIPA on CentOS. As I said previously, I highly recommend
 using Fedora servers as your FreeIPA servers, because it will install much
 easier and you should be able to get support from the freeipa-users mailing
 list.
 
 If you are set on using CentOS, I think you will need to use the RedHat IPA
 product instead. But the only success stories that I am familiar with are
 from the v1.x IPA product, which is old.
 
 http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-build-rhel-ipa-rpms-for-centos-5
 

I'm surprised FreeIPA isn't in EPEL.  Maybe this is because it's a
layered product offering by RHEL?

It's painful to run Fedora as a production server unfortunately with
its short lifecycle (at least in Enterprisey environments).

Ray

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 On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Jonathan Nilsson jnils...@uci.edu wrote:
 
  
   You're welcome!  I have used FreeIPA in the past with great success
  (though not specifically as an NIS data source). So if you do pursue
  FreeIPA, I highly recommend joining their separate mailing list
  freeipa-us...@redhat.com
   https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/freeipa-users
   They have a very active development community that will be able to help
  you get up and running.
   To get you started, I recommend that you try installing it on a Fedora
  server, rather than CentOS (people have reported being able to build and
  install on CentOS 5, but yum install is easier on Fedora).
   Good luck!
   --
   jonathan
 
  Jonathan,
 
  Did you get this for CentOS. I've got CentOS 5.6. Would you know if
  there is a repository for that that contains FreeIPA?
 
  Boris.
 
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Re: [CentOS] coordinated NIS and LDAP servers

2011-11-05 Thread Stephen Harris
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 09:11:01PM -0400, Boris Epstein wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Nilsson jnils...@uci.edu wrote:
  Hence the question - is there a good way to have an NIS server for
  user authentication that is a mirror image of an LDAP server, with a
  proviso that an update introduced there is replicated in the LDAP
  server's databases?

  http://freeipa.org/page/NIS_Compatibility

 Thank you very much, this sounds like an excellent idea!

If you don't mind paying, PADL may do what you want
  http://www.padl.com/Products/NISLDAPGateway.html

Or fire up a Solaris 10 instance, which may also do what you want

Both will take an LDAP server and republish as NIS.  LDAP is authoratative
and all changes must be made there (so you can't make your NIS map from
NIS sources and expect the changes to propagate to LDAP).

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rgds
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[CentOS] coordinated NIS and LDAP servers

2011-11-04 Thread Boris Epstein
Hello listmates,
We are currently running NIS for authentication but would like to
migrate to LDAP. Thing is, though, that some of the machines that
authenticate via NIS are so old I'd rather not even touch them.
Hence the question - is there a good way to have an NIS server for
user authentication that is a mirror image of an LDAP server, with a
proviso that an update introduced there is replicated in the LDAP
server's databases?
Thanks.
Boris.
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Re: [CentOS] coordinated NIS and LDAP servers

2011-11-04 Thread Jonathan Nilsson
 Hence the question - is there a good way to have an NIS server for
 user authentication that is a mirror image of an LDAP server, with a
 proviso that an update introduced there is replicated in the LDAP
 server's databases?


I don't know of any syncing mechanisms between an existing NIS
environment and an existing LDAP environment, but if you are willing to
migrate to something new that provides both, you might try FreeIPA.

http://freeipa.org/page/NIS_Compatibility

--
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Re: [CentOS] coordinated NIS and LDAP servers

2011-11-04 Thread Boris Epstein
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jonathan Nilsson jnils...@uci.edu wrote:
 Hence the question - is there a good way to have an NIS server for
 user authentication that is a mirror image of an LDAP server, with a
 proviso that an update introduced there is replicated in the LDAP
 server's databases?


 I don't know of any syncing mechanisms between an existing NIS
 environment and an existing LDAP environment, but if you are willing to
 migrate to something new that provides both, you might try FreeIPA.

 http://freeipa.org/page/NIS_Compatibility

 --
 Jonathan

Jonathan,

Thank you very much, this sounds like an excellent idea!

Boris.
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