On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, cornel panceac wrote:
2011/3/23 R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com
This comes and goes, and really there is no substitute for actually
'doing' rather than
talking in the cloister
as i see it, the problem is while the users expectation has grown, the work
became harder.
ehhh? It has not gotten materially harder to build, if indeed
it has gotten harder at all. 4.9 sailed out (thanks, Johnny
-- also there was no new ISO set and anaconda to spin); 5.6
has some niggles which are being worked out in QA; and my
trial building of the 6 sources, INCLUDING A RE-WRITE of my
local autobuilder, took less than a week, for getting the
first pass done. I am not happy with the package build
scheduler (it is too naiive and not as efficient as I would
like it)
That said, I then rebuilt those sources 3 more rounds, to make
sure they are self-hosting and stabilized, BEFORE turning to
address trademark and branding issues. If a person were
inclined to see the process and get a flavor for doing rounds
of rebuilding to ensure convergance, rebuild gcc, or glicb
from an unpacked tarball, with the minimal shell tools
building environment for 'bootstrapping' into a new
environment
so i believe the real question is: how can we help the
CentOS project? how can we unload the developers so that
they do more high level and/or creative things with less
work?
I am substantially certain the archive of this list or the
-devel list contains suggesting identifying trade-marks that
leaked out of 'redhat-logos', and branding changes not
affirmatively required by the 'elide other's trademarks'
requirement; large numbers of bugs are never touched and
confirmed as reproduceable, or still viable; pushing fixes
upstream [we had an email inquiry today, wanting to help
extend CentOS to add a new national language that will not
occur here, but is a perfectly reasonable translation project
to push into Fedora so it eventually flows down here ... ]
It is perfectly reasonable to 'toil in the vinyards' of Fedora
to cause future CentOS versions to benefit from the effort
-- Russ herrold
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