Re: [CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-03-22 Thread robert mena
Hi,

I've been using the php packages from c5-testing without problems for a
while.  What is preventing it to be part of the regular extras repository?

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:29 AM, TR  wrote:

> On 18/02/2010 13:06, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >
> >i've just started looking after a (virtual) centos 5.4 server that's
> > hosted at rackspace and, unsurprisingly, it was set up with all the
> > standard defaults.  part of the work i'll be doing involves php and,
> > as i read it, the standard php version with centos 5.4 is php-5.1.
> >
> >if i *wanted* to move up to a more recent version (say, php-5.3),
> > obviously, i'd need to go outside the limits of the standard centos
> > yum repos.  in my travels, i ran across this site:
> >
> 
>
> The CentOS testing repository has php-5.2 available if this would
> be any use to you.
>
> See here for instructions:-
>
> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PHP_5.1_To_5.2
>
> http://blog.bit-matrix.com/2009/10/22/how-to-install-php-52-on-centos-5/
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Re: [CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-02-21 Thread TR
On 18/02/2010 13:06, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
>i've just started looking after a (virtual) centos 5.4 server that's
> hosted at rackspace and, unsurprisingly, it was set up with all the
> standard defaults.  part of the work i'll be doing involves php and,
> as i read it, the standard php version with centos 5.4 is php-5.1.
>
>if i *wanted* to move up to a more recent version (say, php-5.3),
> obviously, i'd need to go outside the limits of the standard centos
> yum repos.  in my travels, i ran across this site:
>


The CentOS testing repository has php-5.2 available if this would 
be any use to you.

See here for instructions:-

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PHP_5.1_To_5.2

http://blog.bit-matrix.com/2009/10/22/how-to-install-php-52-on-centos-5/

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Re: [CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-02-19 Thread Les Mikesell
On 2/18/2010 8:20 AM, Mathieu Baudier wrote:
>> I use epel (has a lot of different stuff but generally does not have newer
>> versions of standard packages), rpmforge (sometimes has newer stuff and may
>> cause some conflicts) remi (up to date ocsinventory-server, php, mysql), and
>> opennms (Sun JVM 1.5 and opennms).  Normally I leave epel enabled in the yum
>
> We use as well:
>
> - EPEL: their missions statement is that they will NEVER update base:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#Does_EPEL_replace_packages_provided_within_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_or_layered_products.3F

You have to take mission statements with a grain of salt.  There was a 
time when you would get java-1.6.0.openjdk from epel instead of the 
stock version - and things like that will probably happen again as the 
base repos decide to duplicate things that already exist in 3rd party 
locations.  They have a history of never making any effort to coordinate 
that process.

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Re: [CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-02-19 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote on Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:59:35 +0530:

> Any opinions on Jason Litka repo?

You will find that it's not up-to-date and updates are done *very* rarely.

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Re: [CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-02-19 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article <8786b91c1002182029r1747f2d3m64485688ec9fc...@mail.gmail.com>,
Rajagopal Swaminathan  wrote:
> -=-=-=-=-=-
> -=-=-=-=-=-
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Gary Greene 
> wrote:
> 
> > On 2/18/10 1:31 PM, "Kai Schaetzl"  wrote:
> >
> >
> Any opinions on Jason Litka repo?
> 
> I happen to have installed PHP 5.2 just yesterday from there

My brother, using a 32-bit system, has used Jason Litka's repo with
no problems.

I tried to use it on a 64-bit system which also had 32-bit packages
installed (see related recent thread), and ran into dependency problems,
because he hadn't put the 32-bit packages also into the 64-bit tree.

I didn't have time to pursue it, so I gave up for the time being.

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Re: [CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-02-18 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Gary Greene wrote:

> On 2/18/10 1:31 PM, "Kai Schaetzl"  wrote:
>
>
Any opinions on Jason Litka repo?

I happen to have installed PHP 5.2 just yesterday from there

Regards,

Rajagopal
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Re: [CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-02-18 Thread Gary Greene
On 2/18/10 1:31 PM, "Kai Schaetzl"  wrote:

> Les Mikesell wrote on Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:02:20 -0600:
> 
>> remi (up to date ocsinventory-server, php, mysql)
> 
> The problem with remi's nice (!) and recommended repo is that he just
> builds the latest php (5.3.x). That may be possible for 20% of
> installations, the other 80% may not work on it. I found the solution for
> 5.2.x in using the ius repo. It also has a convincing concept of not
> replacing the base php rpms. They have named their packages different, so
> that there wont be a conflict. And it works.
> 
> Kai

I do much the same for Perl stuff at work (I build a custom build of Perl
and friends so as not to break my system Perl with cpan)

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Re: [CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-02-18 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Les Mikesell wrote on Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:02:20 -0600:

> remi (up to date ocsinventory-server, php, mysql)

The problem with remi's nice (!) and recommended repo is that he just 
builds the latest php (5.3.x). That may be possible for 20% of 
installations, the other 80% may not work on it. I found the solution for 
5.2.x in using the ius repo. It also has a convincing concept of not 
replacing the base php rpms. They have named their packages different, so 
that there wont be a conflict. And it works.

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-02-18 Thread Mathieu Baudier
> I use epel (has a lot of different stuff but generally does not have newer
> versions of standard packages), rpmforge (sometimes has newer stuff and may
> cause some conflicts) remi (up to date ocsinventory-server, php, mysql), and
> opennms (Sun JVM 1.5 and opennms).  Normally I leave epel enabled in the yum

We use as well:

- EPEL: their missions statement is that they will NEVER update base:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ#Does_EPEL_replace_packages_provided_within_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_or_layered_products.3F

- RpmForge: but we rather tend to enable it and use includepkgs in the
repo file to add the packages we are interested in (in order to get
their updates)

- ElRepo: useful for drivers for a desktop install

- for all other stuff we tend to rebuild SRPMS picked-up at different
places and maintain our own repositories (using createrepo to generate
the metadata, and putting them on a standard httpd server, this is not
a big deal).

Good sources for SRPMS are
  - the personal repo of Karanbir: http://centos.karan.org/
  - older fedora distributions (going down from the latest to Fedora
6), sometimes requires a bit of hacking of the spec files:
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist
  - finally, looking in RPM search engines for the proper SRPM: like
http://rpm.pbone.net/

Then there are also "specialized" repositories that may address your needs.

Some that I heard of but not really tested:
- Latest PHP and Python (you may be especially interested in this
one!): http://iuscommunity.org/packages/
(there was some arguments around it in the docs mailing list:
http://www.mail-archive.com/centos-d...@centos.org/msg03260.html)
- PostgreSQL: http://yum.pgsqlrpms.org/
- etc.
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Re: [CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-02-18 Thread Les Mikesell
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   i've just started looking after a (virtual) centos 5.4 server that's
> hosted at rackspace and, unsurprisingly, it was set up with all the
> standard defaults.  part of the work i'll be doing involves php and,
> as i read it, the standard php version with centos 5.4 is php-5.1.
> 
>   if i *wanted* to move up to a more recent version (say, php-5.3),
> obviously, i'd need to go outside the limits of the standard centos
> yum repos.  in my travels, i ran across this site:
> 
> http://blog.famillecollet.com/pages/Config-en
> 
> with the corresponding instructions:
> 
> wget 
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release-5-3.noarch.rpm
> wget http://rpms.famillecollet.com/enterprise/remi-release-5.rpm
> rpm -Uvh remi-release-5*.rpm epel-release-5*.rpm
> 
>   i'm suitably leery of 3rd-party repos but i recall that someone else
> (on this list?) recommended that site.  and i can see that it has an
> x86_64 version of php-5.3 ready to go for centos 5.4:
> 
> http://rpms.famillecollet.com/enterprise/5/remi/x86_64/repoview/php.html
> 
>   what are the recommendations for well-respected 3rd-party repos for
> centos 5.4 if i want to get newer packages?  the centos 5.4 system in
> question is purely an internal development system so i have the
> freedom to customize it to some extent if newer packages are called
> for.  thanks.

I use epel (has a lot of different stuff but generally does not have newer 
versions of standard packages), rpmforge (sometimes has newer stuff and may 
cause some conflicts) remi (up to date ocsinventory-server, php, mysql), and 
opennms (Sun JVM 1.5 and opennms).  Normally I leave epel enabled in the yum 
configuration and disable the others.  Then I can
yum --enablerepo=xxx install somepackage
and normally not pick up conflicting dependencies, and do the same for updates 
after doing a full update from the base and epel repos.  It is probably still 
possible to break something this way but it seems safer than trying to make yum 
guess where to get things.

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[CentOS] how to push the bounds and get newer packages for centos 5.4?

2010-02-18 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  i've just started looking after a (virtual) centos 5.4 server that's
hosted at rackspace and, unsurprisingly, it was set up with all the
standard defaults.  part of the work i'll be doing involves php and,
as i read it, the standard php version with centos 5.4 is php-5.1.

  if i *wanted* to move up to a more recent version (say, php-5.3),
obviously, i'd need to go outside the limits of the standard centos
yum repos.  in my travels, i ran across this site:

http://blog.famillecollet.com/pages/Config-en

with the corresponding instructions:

wget 
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/epel-release-5-3.noarch.rpm
wget http://rpms.famillecollet.com/enterprise/remi-release-5.rpm
rpm -Uvh remi-release-5*.rpm epel-release-5*.rpm

  i'm suitably leery of 3rd-party repos but i recall that someone else
(on this list?) recommended that site.  and i can see that it has an
x86_64 version of php-5.3 ready to go for centos 5.4:

http://rpms.famillecollet.com/enterprise/5/remi/x86_64/repoview/php.html

  what are the recommendations for well-respected 3rd-party repos for
centos 5.4 if i want to get newer packages?  the centos 5.4 system in
question is purely an internal development system so i have the
freedom to customize it to some extent if newer packages are called
for.  thanks.

rday
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