Re: [CentOS] network raid file system/server

2007-06-22 Thread Francois Caen

On 6/13/07, Farkas Levente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

it's someting a big network raid5-6... storage where we have about
40partition added to the same network volume. and there is an fs over
it which hide all internal network raid functionality.
is there any such solution? i can't find any way to do this on our
linux servers.


I saw a presentation from the guy behind mogilefs. It sounds exactly
like what you're looking for.
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Francois Caen
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Re: [CentOS] network raid file system/server

2007-06-19 Thread James Fidell
Feizhou wrote:

 In this scenario, iscsi provides the devices remotely and the server
 handles the raiding of the devices.
 
 can you explain it a bit more detailed?
 
 The boxes with disks are now just 'disk servers' and those disks are
 exported to the servers that will provide the filesystem layer. iscsi is
 the technology used to export the disks in this scenario.

Is there a neat way to get start the partitions and get them mounted in
this setup?  I have a server on which I want to create /dev/md0 from two
iscsi partitions.  I then want to export /md0 to other servers using
GFS.

Do I have to hand-craft my own scripts to start the md devices at boot
time and get the filesystems mounted before starting GFS, or is there
already a way to do that?  (I don't have a problem with doing so, but
if there's already a right way to do it...)

James
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Re: [CentOS] network raid file system/server

2007-06-19 Thread Feizhou

James Fidell wrote:

Feizhou wrote:


In this scenario, iscsi provides the devices remotely and the server
handles the raiding of the devices.


can you explain it a bit more detailed?

The boxes with disks are now just 'disk servers' and those disks are
exported to the servers that will provide the filesystem layer. iscsi is
the technology used to export the disks in this scenario.


Is there a neat way to get start the partitions and get them mounted in
this setup?  I have a server on which I want to create /dev/md0 from two
iscsi partitions.  I then want to export /md0 to other servers using
GFS.


What are you going to use to export the /dev/md0? gnbd? Does your 
iscsi_target have a maximum of one connection limit?




Do I have to hand-craft my own scripts to start the md devices at boot
time and get the filesystems mounted before starting GFS, or is there
already a way to do that?  (I don't have a problem with doing so, but
if there's already a right way to do it...)


No idea. I have not actually had a chance to get GFS working whether 
with iscsi or with some other device exporting solution. Sorry I cannot 
help here. Maybe those who have had real experience can chip in.

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Re: [CentOS] network raid file system/server

2007-06-14 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Antonio da Silva Martins Junior wrote:
 - Farkas Levente [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
  we've a few 10-20 server in a lan each has 4-8 hdd. we'd like to
  create one big file server on these server hard disks and we'd like to
  create it in a redundant way ie:
  - if one (or more) of the hdd or server fails the whole filesystem
  still usable and consistent.

...

 Hi Farkas,

   I think a start is to look on PVFS2 (www.pvfs.org).

   Or maybe using nbd and softwareraid ???

Neither will eliminate servers and disks as single points of failiure.

If want one filesystem overy many disks on many servers and the ability to 
fail a disk-volume (raid or whatever) or an entire server and still have a 
usable fs then you need something like GPFS with replication enabled. Either 
way, not a trivial config nor trivial software (GPFS for example will cost 
you $$$ unless you're academic).

good luck,
 Peter


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Re: [CentOS] network raid file system/server

2007-06-14 Thread bruno . sousa
Hi,

Well, you can take a look around at Oracle Cluster File System.
I've been using it, for a while, and so far so good.
It's free, runs on top of Linux, and despite it's name , it's not a file system 
only for Oracle apps, and it's part of the kernel since version 2.6.16 .

Check it at http://oss.oracle.com/projects/ocfs2/


Best regards,
Bruno Sousa

--- Mensagem Original---
 On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Antonio da Silva Martins Junior
 wrote:
  - Farkas Levente [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   we've a few 10-20 server in a lan each has 4-8 hdd. we'd like to
   create one big file server on these server hard disks and we'd like to
   create it in a redundant way ie:
   - if one (or more) of the hdd or server fails the whole filesystem
   still usable and consistent.
 
 ...
 
  Hi Farkas,
 
I think a start is to look on PVFS2 (www.pvfs.org).
 
Or maybe using nbd and softwareraid ???
 
 Neither will eliminate servers and disks as single points of
 failiure.
 
 If want one filesystem overy many disks on many servers and
 the ability to 
 fail a disk-volume (raid or whatever) or an entire server and
 still have a 
 usable fs then you need something like GPFS with replication
 enabled. Either 
 way, not a trivial config nor trivial software (GPFS for example
 will cost 
 you $$$ unless you're academic).
 
 good luck,
  Peter
 
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