Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Karanbir Singh Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:32 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on. Make the announcement stand out more on centos.org maybe? Like a big banner just under the Home/Donate/Information etc-menu. That is to say, just a short blurb about the new release and a bigger font making use of a bold typeface when typing new centos 5.3 release and linking to the actual announcement further below. In fact, IMHO, I think the release announcement should be nearer or in the top of the page, or at least in the uppermost left column. Most read from left to right and start from the top. 8-} While he first page is very informational, it's not a wonder of readability. No offence to the webmaster(s). HTH. -- /Sorin smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Joseph L. Casale Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:41 PM To: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders What happens to their 5.2 the first time they use yum? Some people don't update after install. Some people don't know they *should* update after install the first they do. Some firewall the whole thing and don't let anything in, or let just the local network in. Some don't update because certification issues. The spectrum is very wide indeed. -- /Sorin smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] the 5.2 loaders
Just looking around at log files and other places, I noticed today that there are still a lot of people installing and downloading 5.2. While a large number of installs would be since people already have the 5.2 media - thats fine, however, new downloads for 5.2 media today makes little sense ( to me ) - so whats going on here ? What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on. I cam imagine there are people with specific needs and they would want the 5.2 media - but not a number so large, that its almost 80% of all the people downloading 5.3 these days. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders
I would say that people know that 5.2 work and looking at changelogs, they don't see a real NEED to install 5.3. I personally always have the newest release though. One thing I would say to improve visibility, is making a bigger release. It took me a few days to find out that 5.3 was actually out. Maybe digg.com... Etc. --Original Message-- From: Karanbir Singh Sender: centos-boun...@centos.org To: CentOS Mailing list ReplyTo: CentOS Mailing list Sent: Apr 6, 2009 12:32 Subject: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders Just looking around at log files and other places, I noticed today that there are still a lot of people installing and downloading 5.2. While a large number of installs would be since people already have the 5.2 media - thats fine, however, new downloads for 5.2 media today makes little sense ( to me ) - so whats going on here ? What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on. I cam imagine there are people with specific needs and they would want the 5.2 media - but not a number so large, that its almost 80% of all the people downloading 5.3 these days. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders
I would say that people know that 5.2 work and looking at changelogs, they don't see a real NEED to install 5.3. I personally always have the newest release though. What happens to their 5.2 the first time they use yum? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders
Karanbir Singh wrote on Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:32:25 +0100: What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on. Point all visible 5.2 stuff to 5.3 and add a if you are really looking for 5.2 and not the 5.3 follow here ... With visible I mean everything that is not a sheer download location. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: Just looking around at log files and other places, I noticed today that there are still a lot of people installing and downloading 5.2. While a large number of installs would be since people already have the 5.2 media - thats fine, however, new downloads for 5.2 media today makes little sense ( to me ) - so whats going on here ? What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on. I cam imagine there are people with specific needs and they would want the 5.2 media - but not a number so large, that its almost 80% of all the people downloading 5.3 these days. - KB The centos.org page doesn't have a news section in any obvious place, and the CentOS 5 section only just has the version number updated. If someone were not following the mailing lists or missed the announcement that one day on a news site, they might not notice that 5.3 was out. It could be people downloading from links that are hard coded to 5.2. If you can see the referrer pages, that would probably help track that down (though only for http downloads). Also, even though 5.3 should be completely compatible with 5.2, it doesn't mean that IT departments believe it, or at least need to go through internal testing before changing their internal process to use 5.3. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders
Brian Mathis wrote on Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:42:59 -0400: The centos.org page doesn't have a news section in any obvious place, and the CentOS 5 section only just has the version number updated. If someone were not following the mailing lists or missed the announcement that one day on a news site, they might not notice that 5.3 was out. Right. I didn't recently check centos.org, but he's right, there's no obvious sign of this major release. I would at least move the CentOS 5 section to the top. Or add a new news section on top that you specifically fill with what people should first see when they visit the page. You should also distribute this section via RSS. There is also nothing here on the supposed news page: http://www.centos.org/modules/news/index.php Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
