Re: [CentOS] unofficial ext3 and ext4 compare

2011-06-27 Thread Thomas Harold
On 6/27/2011 8:10 AM, Jerry Geis wrote:
> I have something like 300G I routinely backup.
> This includes some large 12Gig images and other files.
>
> I had been using ext3 on an external USB disk for part of the process.
>
> Under ext3 doing "rsync -a /home /mnt/external_back/backup.jun.27.2011"
> it took 200 minutes.
>
> I took the same computer, same external HD and reformatted it for ext4
> (mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdd1).
> I then started the same rsync as above. The time was reduced to 170 minutes.
>

A time reduction for using ext4 in that scenario does not surprise me. 
Under ext3, deleting large mult-gigabyte files requires a lot of 
activity as it tracks down and marks the blocks as free.  In ext4, this 
process is a lot faster due to the use of extents to track which blocks 
are used by large files.

Just the faster deletion times with ext4 might account for the time 
difference.  Under ext3, deleting a 10GB file might take a minute or 
two, but it will only take a few seconds under ext4.

(It's the primary reason that I started using ext4 last year for any 
shares / file systems where I needed to store large files.)
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Re: [CentOS] unofficial ext3 and ext4 compare

2011-06-27 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jerry Geis  wrote:
>>
>> Thanx for the feeback Jerry,
>>
>>
>> What filesystem does the  storage on the server use, as matter of interest?
>>
>>
>>
> Sure, the server still has ext3.
>
> Jerry
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Ok, so I'm sure you'll see a larger speed improvement (but still
limited to the USB port) if the server used EXT4 as well.

You could probably only do this once the data is fully backed up
though, just for safety's sake.




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Re: [CentOS] unofficial ext3 and ext4 compare

2011-06-27 Thread Jerry Geis
>
> Thanx for the feeback Jerry,
>
>
> What filesystem does the  storage on the server use, as matter of interest?
>
>
>   
Sure, the server still has ext3.

Jerry
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Re: [CentOS] unofficial ext3 and ext4 compare

2011-06-27 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Jerry Geis  wrote:
> I have something like 300G I routinely backup.
> This includes some large 12Gig images and other files.
>
> I had been using ext3 on an external USB disk for part of the process.
>
> Under ext3 doing "rsync -a /home /mnt/external_back/backup.jun.27.2011"
> it took 200 minutes.
>
> I took the same computer, same external HD and reformatted it for ext4
> (mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdd1).
> I then started the same rsync as above. The time was reduced to 170 minutes.
>
> This is on Centos 5.6 x86_64.
>
> I did notice the [ext4-dio-unwrit] process that starts up. One process
> for each core.
> I was concerned when they did not go away. But google says that is
> normal. :)
>
> Jerry
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Thanx for the feeback Jerry,


What filesystem does the  storage on the server use, as matter of interest?


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[CentOS] unofficial ext3 and ext4 compare

2011-06-27 Thread Jerry Geis
I have something like 300G I routinely backup.
This includes some large 12Gig images and other files.

I had been using ext3 on an external USB disk for part of the process.

Under ext3 doing "rsync -a /home /mnt/external_back/backup.jun.27.2011"
it took 200 minutes.

I took the same computer, same external HD and reformatted it for ext4 
(mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdd1).
I then started the same rsync as above. The time was reduced to 170 minutes.

This is on Centos 5.6 x86_64.

I did notice the [ext4-dio-unwrit] process that starts up. One process 
for each core.
I was concerned when they did not go away. But google says that is 
normal. :)

Jerry
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