Re: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?
On 08/30/2014 05:33 PM, Keith Keller wrote: On 2014-08-30, Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb? There are concerns in the wider open source community about Oracle's long-term plans for MySQL. I also imagine there is some concern from RedHat that Oracle is trying to move in to RedHat's space with Oracle Linux. I'm using epel and remi as my repos. Questions about non-CentOS repos should probably be directed to lists for those repos; CentOS has no official authority over EPEL (I am not familiar with remi). I don't know what you think, but this is just weird to me. Why on earth would CentOS 7 be trying to get me to install a database that I don't really want instead of MySQL? Nothing against mariadb. It's just that I haven't tried it yet, and don't have a real interest to. If MariaDB is coming from EPEL, as suggested by your yum output, then CentOS is not trying to get you to do anything. But I believe that MariaDB is also in core CentOS. Perhaps RH does not have an alias for mysql-server but EPEL does? Mariadb replaces mysql in RHEL-7 (and also Fedora 19), so it also replaces mysql in CentOS-7. yum install mariadb-server should be used to get the default mariadb server from the distro. MariaDB should be a drop-in replacement for MySQL. If you have concerns about Oracle and MySQL you should seriously consider trying MariaDB. You may decide against it, of course, but at least you'll have made a technical decision instead of a knee-jerk one. (I do still find links that conflate MySQL and MariaDB, which is unfortunate.) --keith signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?
On 08/30/2014 01:10 PM, Tim Dunphy wrote: Hey all, I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb? I'm using epel and remi as my repos. The short answer is because RH chose to use mariadb instead of MySQL in EL7. As others have said, this is similar to the openoffice-libreoffice switch. There should be very minimal (if any at all) difference in functionality. -- Jim Perrin The CentOS Project | http://www.centos.org twitter: @BitIntegrity | GPG Key: FA09AD77 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?
Hey all, I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb? I'm using epel and remi as my repos. [root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 7.0 (Maipo) [root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #yum repolist Loaded plugins: amazon-id, rhui-lb repo id repo name status epel/x86_64 Extra Packages for Enter 5,610 remi Les RPM de remi pour Ent 1,005 remi-php56 Les RPM de remi de PHP 5 227 rhui-REGION-client-config-server-7/x86_64Red Hat Update Infrastru 2 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-optional/7Server/x86_64 Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4,360 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases/7Server/x86_64 Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4,718 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-rh-common/7Server/x86_64 Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 repolist: 15,931 [root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #yum install mysql-server Loaded plugins: amazon-id, rhui-lb Resolving Dependencies .. Dependencies Resolved Package Arch Version Repository Size Installing: mariadb-galera-server x86_64 1:5.5.37-2.el7 epel 11 M Installing for dependencies: boost-program-options x86_64 1.53.0-18.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 154 k galera x86_64 25.3.5-7.el7 epel 1.1 M libaio x86_64 0.3.109-12.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 24 k mariadb x86_64 1:5.5.37-1.el7_0 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 9.0 M mariadb-galera-common x86_64 1:5.5.37-2.el7 epel 212 k perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2 x86_64 2.061-3.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 32 k perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib x86_64 1:2.061-4.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 57 k perl-DBD-MySQL x86_64 4.023-5.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 140 k perl-DBIx86_64 1.627-4.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 802 k perl-IO-Compress noarch 2.061-2.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 260 k perl-Net-Daemon noarch 0.48-5.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 51 k perl-PlRPC noarch 0.2020-14.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 36 k Transaction Summary Install 1 Package (+12 Dependent packages) Total download size: 23 M Installed size: 114 M Is this ok [y/d/N]: I don't know what you think, but this is just weird to me. Why on earth would CentOS 7 be trying to get me to install a database that I don't really want instead of MySQL? Nothing against mariadb. It's just that I haven't tried it yet, and don't have a real interest to. Thanks Tim -- GPG me!! gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys F186197B ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?
Hi, This is a similar move with replacing OpenOffice (back then also under the Oracle umbrella) with LibreOFfice. Replace product owned by evil corporation with the true open source alternative (which happens to be developed by the original devs of MySQL!); this may not be RH's main reason, but it's how I see it. For one I totally support this move and I was a bit afraid RHEL7 wouldn't be released in time to incorporate this change. You should use MariaDB without fear, it should be the same thing and replaces MySQL gracefully. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Saturday, 30 August, 2014 7:10:53 PM Subject: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ? Hey all, I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb? I'm using epel and remi as my repos. [root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 7.0 (Maipo) [root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #yum repolist Loaded plugins: amazon-id, rhui-lb repo id repo name status epel/x86_64 Extra Packages for Enter 5,610 remi Les RPM de remi pour Ent 1,005 remi-php56 Les RPM de remi de PHP 5 227 rhui-REGION-client-config-server-7/x86_64Red Hat Update Infrastru 2 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-optional/7Server/x86_64 Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4,360 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases/7Server/x86_64 Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4,718 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-rh-common/7Server/x86_64 Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 repolist: 15,931 [root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #yum install mysql-server Loaded plugins: amazon-id, rhui-lb Resolving Dependencies .. Dependencies Resolved Package Arch Version Repository Size Installing: mariadb-galera-server x86_64 1:5.5.37-2.el7 epel 11 M Installing for dependencies: boost-program-options x86_64 1.53.0-18.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 154 k galera x86_64 25.3.5-7.el7 epel 1.1 M libaio x86_64 0.3.109-12.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 24 k mariadb x86_64 1:5.5.37-1.el7_0 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 9.0 M mariadb-galera-common x86_64 1:5.5.37-2.el7 epel 212 k perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2 x86_64 2.061-3.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 32 k perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib x86_64 1:2.061-4.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 57 k perl-DBD-MySQL x86_64 4.023-5.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 140 k perl-DBIx86_64 1.627-4.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 802 k perl-IO-Compress noarch 2.061-2.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 260 k perl-Net-Daemon noarch 0.48-5.el7 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 51 k perl-PlRPC noarch 0.2020-14.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases 36 k Transaction Summary Install 1 Package (+12 Dependent packages) Total download size: 23 M Installed size: 114 M Is this ok [y/d/N]: I don't know what you think, but this is just weird to me. Why on earth would CentOS 7 be trying to get me to install a database that I don't really want instead of MySQL? Nothing against mariadb. It's just that I haven't tried it yet, and don't have a real interest to. Thanks Tim -- GPG me!! gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys F186197B ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?
On 2014-08-30, Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb? There are concerns in the wider open source community about Oracle's long-term plans for MySQL. I also imagine there is some concern from RedHat that Oracle is trying to move in to RedHat's space with Oracle Linux. I'm using epel and remi as my repos. Questions about non-CentOS repos should probably be directed to lists for those repos; CentOS has no official authority over EPEL (I am not familiar with remi). I don't know what you think, but this is just weird to me. Why on earth would CentOS 7 be trying to get me to install a database that I don't really want instead of MySQL? Nothing against mariadb. It's just that I haven't tried it yet, and don't have a real interest to. If MariaDB is coming from EPEL, as suggested by your yum output, then CentOS is not trying to get you to do anything. But I believe that MariaDB is also in core CentOS. Perhaps RH does not have an alias for mysql-server but EPEL does? MariaDB should be a drop-in replacement for MySQL. If you have concerns about Oracle and MySQL you should seriously consider trying MariaDB. You may decide against it, of course, but at least you'll have made a technical decision instead of a knee-jerk one. (I do still find links that conflate MySQL and MariaDB, which is unfortunate.) --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
