Re: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?

2014-09-01 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 08/30/2014 05:33 PM, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2014-08-30, Tim Dunphy  wrote:
>>
>> I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I
>> attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb?
> 
> There are concerns in the wider open source community about Oracle's
> long-term plans for MySQL.  I also imagine there is some concern from
> RedHat that Oracle is trying to move in to RedHat's space with Oracle
> Linux.
> 
>> I'm using epel and remi as my repos.
> 
> Questions about non-CentOS repos should probably be directed to lists
> for those repos; CentOS has no official authority over EPEL (I am not
> familiar with remi).
> 
>> I don't know what you think, but this is just weird to me. Why on earth
>> would CentOS 7 be trying to get me to install a database that I don't
>> really want instead of MySQL? Nothing against mariadb. It's just that I
>> haven't tried it yet, and don't have a real interest to.
> 
> If MariaDB is coming from EPEL, as suggested by your yum output, then
> CentOS is not trying to get you to do anything.  But I believe that
> MariaDB is also in core CentOS.  Perhaps RH does not have an alias for
> mysql-server but EPEL does?

Mariadb replaces mysql in RHEL-7 (and also Fedora 19), so it also
replaces mysql in CentOS-7.

yum install mariadb-server should be used to get the default mariadb
server from the distro.



> 
> MariaDB should be a drop-in replacement for MySQL.  If you have concerns
> about Oracle and MySQL you should seriously consider trying MariaDB.
> You may decide against it, of course, but at least you'll have made a
> technical decision instead of a knee-jerk one.  (I do still find links
> that conflate MySQL and MariaDB, which is unfortunate.)
> 
> --keith
> 




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Re: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?

2014-08-31 Thread Jim Perrin


On 08/30/2014 01:10 PM, Tim Dunphy wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I
> attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb? I'm using
> epel and remi as my repos.


The short answer is because RH chose to use mariadb instead of MySQL in
EL7. As others have said, this is similar to the openoffice->libreoffice
switch. There should be very minimal (if any at all) difference in
functionality.

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Re: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?

2014-08-30 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-30, Tim Dunphy  wrote:
>
> I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I
> attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb?

There are concerns in the wider open source community about Oracle's
long-term plans for MySQL.  I also imagine there is some concern from
RedHat that Oracle is trying to move in to RedHat's space with Oracle
Linux.

> I'm using epel and remi as my repos.

Questions about non-CentOS repos should probably be directed to lists
for those repos; CentOS has no official authority over EPEL (I am not
familiar with remi).

> I don't know what you think, but this is just weird to me. Why on earth
> would CentOS 7 be trying to get me to install a database that I don't
> really want instead of MySQL? Nothing against mariadb. It's just that I
> haven't tried it yet, and don't have a real interest to.

If MariaDB is coming from EPEL, as suggested by your yum output, then
CentOS is not trying to get you to do anything.  But I believe that
MariaDB is also in core CentOS.  Perhaps RH does not have an alias for
mysql-server but EPEL does?

MariaDB should be a drop-in replacement for MySQL.  If you have concerns
about Oracle and MySQL you should seriously consider trying MariaDB.
You may decide against it, of course, but at least you'll have made a
technical decision instead of a knee-jerk one.  (I do still find links
that conflate MySQL and MariaDB, which is unfortunate.)

--keith

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Re: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?

2014-08-30 Thread Nux!
Hi,

This is a similar move with replacing OpenOffice (back then also under the 
Oracle umbrella) with LibreOFfice. 
Replace product owned by evil corporation with the true open source alternative 
(which happens to be developed by the original devs of MySQL!); this may not be 
RH's main reason, but it's how I see it.

For one I totally support this move and I was a bit afraid RHEL7 wouldn't be 
released in time to incorporate this change.

You should use MariaDB without fear, it should be the same thing and replaces 
MySQL gracefully.



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- Original Message -
> From: "Tim Dunphy" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Saturday, 30 August, 2014 7:10:53 PM
> Subject: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql  
> ?
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I
> attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb? I'm using
> epel and remi as my repos.
> 
> [root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #cat /etc/redhat-release
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 7.0 (Maipo)
> 
> [root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #yum repolist
> Loaded plugins: amazon-id, rhui-lb
> repo id  repo name
>  status
> epel/x86_64  Extra Packages for Enter
> 5,610
> remi Les RPM de remi pour Ent
> 1,005
> remi-php56   Les RPM de remi de PHP 5
> 227
> rhui-REGION-client-config-server-7/x86_64Red Hat Update Infrastru
>   2
> rhui-REGION-rhel-server-optional/7Server/x86_64  Red Hat Enterprise Linux
> 4,360
> rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases/7Server/x86_64  Red Hat Enterprise Linux
> 4,718
> rhui-REGION-rhel-server-rh-common/7Server/x86_64 Red Hat Enterprise Linux
>   9
> repolist: 15,931
> 
> 
> 
> [root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #yum install mysql-server
> Loaded plugins: amazon-id, rhui-lb
> Resolving Dependencies
> ..
> 
> 
> Dependencies Resolved
> 
> 
>  Package Arch   Version  Repository
>  Size
> 
> Installing:
>  mariadb-galera-server
>  x86_64 1:5.5.37-2.el7   epel
>  11 M
> Installing for dependencies:
>  boost-program-options
>  x86_64 1.53.0-18.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
> 154 k
>  galera  x86_64 25.3.5-7.el7 epel
> 1.1 M
>  libaio  x86_64 0.3.109-12.el7   rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
>  24 k
>  mariadb x86_64 1:5.5.37-1.el7_0 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
> 9.0 M
>  mariadb-galera-common
>  x86_64 1:5.5.37-2.el7   epel
> 212 k
>  perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2
>  x86_64 2.061-3.el7  rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
>  32 k
>  perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib
>  x86_64 1:2.061-4.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
>  57 k
>  perl-DBD-MySQL  x86_64 4.023-5.el7  rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
> 140 k
>  perl-DBIx86_64 1.627-4.el7  rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
> 802 k
>  perl-IO-Compress
>  noarch 2.061-2.el7  rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
> 260 k
>  perl-Net-Daemon noarch 0.48-5.el7   rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
>  51 k
>  perl-PlRPC  noarch 0.2020-14.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
>  36 k
> 
> Transaction Summary
> 
> Install  1 Package (+12 Dependent packages)
> 
> Total download size: 23 M
> Installed size: 114 M
> Is this ok [y/d/N]:
> 
> 
> I don't know what you think, but this is just weird to me. Why on earth
> would CentOS 7 be trying to get me to install a database that I don't
> really want instead of MySQL? Nothing against mariadb. It's just that I
> haven't tried it yet, and don't have a real interest to.
> 
> Thanks
> Tim
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[CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?

2014-08-30 Thread Tim Dunphy
Hey all,

I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I
attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb? I'm using
epel and remi as my repos.

[root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 7.0 (Maipo)

[root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #yum repolist
Loaded plugins: amazon-id, rhui-lb
repo id  repo name
 status
epel/x86_64  Extra Packages for Enter
5,610
remi Les RPM de remi pour Ent
1,005
remi-php56   Les RPM de remi de PHP 5
227
rhui-REGION-client-config-server-7/x86_64Red Hat Update Infrastru
  2
rhui-REGION-rhel-server-optional/7Server/x86_64  Red Hat Enterprise Linux
4,360
rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases/7Server/x86_64  Red Hat Enterprise Linux
4,718
rhui-REGION-rhel-server-rh-common/7Server/x86_64 Red Hat Enterprise Linux
  9
repolist: 15,931



[root@web1:/etc/yum.repos.d] #yum install mysql-server
Loaded plugins: amazon-id, rhui-lb
Resolving Dependencies
..


Dependencies Resolved


 Package Arch   Version  Repository
 Size

Installing:
 mariadb-galera-server
 x86_64 1:5.5.37-2.el7   epel
 11 M
Installing for dependencies:
 boost-program-options
 x86_64 1.53.0-18.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
154 k
 galera  x86_64 25.3.5-7.el7 epel
1.1 M
 libaio  x86_64 0.3.109-12.el7   rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
 24 k
 mariadb x86_64 1:5.5.37-1.el7_0 rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
9.0 M
 mariadb-galera-common
 x86_64 1:5.5.37-2.el7   epel
212 k
 perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2
 x86_64 2.061-3.el7  rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
 32 k
 perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib
 x86_64 1:2.061-4.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
 57 k
 perl-DBD-MySQL  x86_64 4.023-5.el7  rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
140 k
 perl-DBIx86_64 1.627-4.el7  rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
802 k
 perl-IO-Compress
 noarch 2.061-2.el7  rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
260 k
 perl-Net-Daemon noarch 0.48-5.el7   rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
 51 k
 perl-PlRPC  noarch 0.2020-14.el7rhui-REGION-rhel-server-releases
 36 k

Transaction Summary

Install  1 Package (+12 Dependent packages)

Total download size: 23 M
Installed size: 114 M
Is this ok [y/d/N]:


I don't know what you think, but this is just weird to me. Why on earth
would CentOS 7 be trying to get me to install a database that I don't
really want instead of MySQL? Nothing against mariadb. It's just that I
haven't tried it yet, and don't have a real interest to.

Thanks
Tim
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