[CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
hai i have run the halt command from the xshell and the machine got restarted, now when i restart the machine, i am getting this error . I have tried to press the CTRL+ALT+F2 and tried to login with the root user but that one is also not working. can any one help me with this.. this the error message i am getting after i tried to login your session only lasted less than 10 seconds ...try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix the problem and it published details (.xsession-errors file) /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with utmp /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -u /var/run/utmp -x /var/gdm/ :0.Xservers -h -l :0 chaitu session_child_run: Could not exec /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession default Regards Chaitanya ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Suggest: Boot with an install CD/DVD in rescue mode. Mount your file system (this should happen automagically) edit /mnt/sysimage/etc/inittab Set your default runlevel to 3 (currently it is set to 5) quit the rescue, and reboot your hard drive. Now you will have the shell available to debug what goes wrong when you command 'startx' From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Chaitanya Yanamadala Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:21 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error hai i have run the halt command from the xshell and the machine got restarted, now when i restart the machine, i am getting this error . I have tried to press the CTRL+ALT+F2 and tried to login with the root user but that one is also not working. can any one help me with this.. this the error message i am getting after i tried to login your session only lasted less than 10 seconds ...try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix the problem and it published details (.xsession-errors file) /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with utmp /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -u /var/run/utmp -x /var/gdm/ :0.Xservers -h -l :0 chaitu session_child_run: Could not exec /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession default Regards Chaitanya *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Thank you for your reply Brain oops i have corrupted the entire system i think . but one thing i dont understand is y this has happened all of a sudden i choose to reinstall the cent os again.. i heard that cent os is the stable version with less number of crashes..:( Chaitanya On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Brunner, Brian T. bbrun...@gai-tronics.com wrote: Suggest: Boot with an install CD/DVD in rescue mode. Mount your file system (this should happen automagically) edit /mnt/sysimage/etc/inittab Set your default runlevel to 3 (currently it is set to 5) quit the rescue, and reboot your hard drive. Now you will have the shell available to debug what goes wrong when you command 'startx' -- *From:* centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] *On Behalf Of *Chaitanya Yanamadala *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:21 AM *To:* CentOS mailing list *Subject:* [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error hai i have run the halt command from the xshell and the machine got restarted, now when i restart the machine, i am getting this error . I have tried to press the CTRL+ALT+F2 and tried to login with the root user but that one is also not working. can any one help me with this.. this the error message i am getting after i tried to login your session only lasted less than 10 seconds ...try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix the problem and it published details (.xsession-errors file) /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with utmp /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -u /var/run/utmp -x /var/gdm/ :0.Xservers -h -l :0 chaitu session_child_run: Could not exec /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession default Regards Chaitanya *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses.www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Chaitanya wrote: Thank you for your reply Brain oops i have corrupted the entire system i think . but one thing i dont understand is y this has happened all of a sudden i choose to reinstall the cent os again.. i heard that cent os is the stable version with less number of crashes..:( It is, very much so. You haven't given us *any* idea as to what you, personally, did to break the system. You say you halted it - did you mean to turn the system off? If you'd just intended to restart it, you should have used the command reboot. And were you running as root? Do you normally log in as root? If so, STOP IT, NOW. This is *not* Windows, and you should *never* log in as root, unless you're doing system maintenance. You should ALWAYS log in as yourself, or as a user, *not* root. (Yes, I'm repeating myself: pay attention.) Btw, try RTFM. mark On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Brunner, Brian T. bbrun...@gai-tronics.com wrote: Suggest: Boot with an install CD/DVD in rescue mode. Mount your file system (this should happen automagically) edit /mnt/sysimage/etc/inittab Set your default runlevel to 3 (currently it is set to 5) quit the rescue, and reboot your hard drive. Now you will have the shell available to debug what goes wrong when you command 'startx' -- *From:* centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] *On Behalf Of *Chaitanya Yanamadala *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:21 AM *To:* CentOS mailing list *Subject:* [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error hai i have run the halt command from the xshell and the machine got restarted, now when i restart the machine, i am getting this error . I have tried to press the CTRL+ALT+F2 and tried to login with the root user but that one is also not working. can any one help me with this.. this the error message i am getting after i tried to login your session only lasted less than 10 seconds ...try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix the problem and it published details (.xsession-errors file) /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with utmp /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -u /var/run/utmp -x /var/gdm/ :0.Xservers -h -l :0 chaitu session_child_run: Could not exec /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession default Regards Chaitanya *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses.www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
On 5/12/2010 9:49 AM, Chaitanya Yanamadala wrote: Thank you for your reply Brain oops i have corrupted the entire system i think . but one thing i dont understand is y this has happened all of a sudden i choose to reinstall the cent os again.. i heard that cent os is the stable version with less number of crashes..:( CentOS is very stable - if this was a working system you probably have a hardware disk problem or you've made a mistake running as root and deleted some system files. Or perhaps you were running 3rd party video drivers and updated the kernel so it didn't match. In the latter case you would be able to recover. If the network was up and only the console had a problem you might have been able to connect from another machine via ssh and execute 'init 3' to get a text mode login at the console where you could fix things. Or, reboot, hit a key to get the grub prompt, select the boot section you want, hit 'e' to edit, then move to the kernel line, hit 'e' to edit, add a 3 at the end of the line, then hit 'b' to boot into runlevel 3. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Dear Mark This is the exact scenario of my machine. i am running the cent os under my virtual box and i have made a network bridge to that VBOX so from my machine i connect to the VBOX using the Xshell. and by the way i am new to linux and this is my test machine so that i do some testing. this is the F reason i am using the root user. what ever os is it i dont think logging in as root user will crash the system. regarding the halt command i used it to check what this command will do and this one i have done from the F manual only. but now my VBOX machine crashed. Chaitanya On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:38 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Chaitanya wrote: Thank you for your reply Brain oops i have corrupted the entire system i think . but one thing i dont understand is y this has happened all of a sudden i choose to reinstall the cent os again.. i heard that cent os is the stable version with less number of crashes..:( It is, very much so. You haven't given us *any* idea as to what you, personally, did to break the system. You say you halted it - did you mean to turn the system off? If you'd just intended to restart it, you should have used the command reboot. And were you running as root? Do you normally log in as root? If so, STOP IT, NOW. This is *not* Windows, and you should *never* log in as root, unless you're doing system maintenance. You should ALWAYS log in as yourself, or as a user, *not* root. (Yes, I'm repeating myself: pay attention.) Btw, try RTFM. mark On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Brunner, Brian T. bbrun...@gai-tronics.com wrote: Suggest: Boot with an install CD/DVD in rescue mode. Mount your file system (this should happen automagically) edit /mnt/sysimage/etc/inittab Set your default runlevel to 3 (currently it is set to 5) quit the rescue, and reboot your hard drive. Now you will have the shell available to debug what goes wrong when you command 'startx' -- *From:* centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] *On Behalf Of *Chaitanya Yanamadala *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:21 AM *To:* CentOS mailing list *Subject:* [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error hai i have run the halt command from the xshell and the machine got restarted, now when i restart the machine, i am getting this error . I have tried to press the CTRL+ALT+F2 and tried to login with the root user but that one is also not working. can any one help me with this.. this the error message i am getting after i tried to login your session only lasted less than 10 seconds ...try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix the problem and it published details (.xsession-errors file) /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with utmp /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/sessreg -a -u /var/run/utmp -x /var/gdm/ :0.Xservers -h -l :0 chaitu session_child_run: Could not exec /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession default Regards Chaitanya *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses.www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Chaitanya, First, please stop top posting. Email is like a conversation, and simply makes more sense if you go to the end, just like reading a conversation. DO delete irrelevant stuff. Chaitanya wrote: This is the exact scenario of my machine. i am running the cent os under my virtual box and i have made a network bridge to that VBOX So, what's the host o/s, Windows? so from my machine i connect to the VBOX using the Xshell. What are you using, putty? and by the way i am new to linux and this is my test machine so that i do some testing. So READ UP on Linux/Unix. this is the F reason i am using the root user. DON'T. Either use root only to do maintenance, or just use sudo to do that. Do *not* test as a root user, except for things only root can do. what ever os is it i dont think logging in as root user will crash the system. It won't. However, if you're exposed to the 'Net, you are begging anyone who finds a way to break in to take over your system. Also, doing things as root, esp. if you don't know what you're doing, is a wonderful way to destroy it. Think format c:/. regarding the halt command i used it to check what this command will do and this one i have done from the F manual only. I have no idea what the F manual is. From the command line, prompt man halt Linux, unlike Windows, comes with man pages for almost all commands. but now my VBOX machine crashed. CentOS crashed, or the VBOX? snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Dear roth This is wt u have started using of filthy language. For your kind info when some one starts learning obviously makes mistake. This is the reaosn i have installed it in vbox Any way thank you for ur help i reinstalled my machine It is obviously the cent os which got crashed not the vbox i think u can get this from the error i have posted On 5/12/10, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Chaitanya, First, please stop top posting. Email is like a conversation, and simply makes more sense if you go to the end, just like reading a conversation. DO delete irrelevant stuff. Chaitanya wrote: This is the exact scenario of my machine. i am running the cent os under my virtual box and i have made a network bridge to that VBOX So, what's the host o/s, Windows? so from my machine i connect to the VBOX using the Xshell. What are you using, putty? and by the way i am new to linux and this is my test machine so that i do some testing. So READ UP on Linux/Unix. this is the F reason i am using the root user. DON'T. Either use root only to do maintenance, or just use sudo to do that. Do *not* test as a root user, except for things only root can do. what ever os is it i dont think logging in as root user will crash the system. It won't. However, if you're exposed to the 'Net, you are begging anyone who finds a way to break in to take over your system. Also, doing things as root, esp. if you don't know what you're doing, is a wonderful way to destroy it. Think format c:/. regarding the halt command i used it to check what this command will do and this one i have done from the F manual only. I have no idea what the F manual is. From the command line, prompt man halt Linux, unlike Windows, comes with man pages for almost all commands. but now my VBOX machine crashed. CentOS crashed, or the VBOX? snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Sent from my mobile device Chaitanya A man can get discouraged many times but he is not a failure until he stops trying... The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'. http://doiop.com/dr.virus.india http://www.drvirusindia.co.cc/ http://chaitu09986025424.blog.co.in/ http://9986025424.co.cc -- Live news channels ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Dear roth This is wt u have started using of filthy language. For your kind info when some one starts learning obviously makes mistake. This is the reaosn i have installed it in vbox Any way thank you for ur help i reinstalled my machine It is obviously the cent os which got crashed not the vbox i think u can get this from the error i have posted On 5/12/10, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Chaitanya, First, please stop top posting. Email is like a conversation, and simply makes more sense if you go to the end, just like reading a conversation. DO delete irrelevant stuff. Chaitanya wrote: This is the exact scenario of my machine. i am running the cent os under my virtual box and i have made a network bridge to that VBOX So, what's the host o/s, Windows? so from my machine i connect to the VBOX using the Xshell. What are you using, putty? and by the way i am new to linux and this is my test machine so that i do some testing. So READ UP on Linux/Unix. this is the F reason i am using the root user. DON'T. Either use root only to do maintenance, or just use sudo to do that. Do *not* test as a root user, except for things only root can do. what ever os is it i dont think logging in as root user will crash the system. It won't. However, if you're exposed to the 'Net, you are begging anyone who finds a way to break in to take over your system. Also, doing things as root, esp. if you don't know what you're doing, is a wonderful way to destroy it. Think format c:/. regarding the halt command i used it to check what this command will do and this one i have done from the F manual only. I have no idea what the F manual is. From the command line, prompt man halt Linux, unlike Windows, comes with man pages for almost all commands. but now my VBOX machine crashed. CentOS crashed, or the VBOX? snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Sent from my mobile device Chaitanya A man can get discouraged many times but he is not a failure until he stops trying... The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'. http://doiop.com/dr.virus.india http://www.drvirusindia.co.cc/ http://chaitu09986025424.blog.co.in/ http://9986025424.co.cc -- Live news channels ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Dear roth This is wt u have started using of filthy language. Filthy language? Did you mean putty, which is a free Windows xterm that everyone uses? Or did you mean me telling you to read the *ahem* fine manuals? For your kind info when some one starts learning obviously makes mistake. This is the reaosn i have installed it in vbox Any way thank you for ur help i reinstalled my machine It is obviously the cent os which got crashed not the vbox i think u can get this from the error i have posted And you have posted *no* error. What was in /var/log/messages? Or what was on the monitor when it crashed? mark On 5/12/10, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Chaitanya, First, please stop top posting. Email is like a conversation, and simply makes more sense if you go to the end, just like reading a conversation. DO delete irrelevant stuff. Chaitanya wrote: This is the exact scenario of my machine. i am running the cent os under my virtual box and i have made a network bridge to that VBOX So, what's the host o/s, Windows? so from my machine i connect to the VBOX using the Xshell. What are you using, putty? and by the way i am new to linux and this is my test machine so that i do some testing. So READ UP on Linux/Unix. this is the F reason i am using the root user. DON'T. Either use root only to do maintenance, or just use sudo to do that. Do *not* test as a root user, except for things only root can do. what ever os is it i dont think logging in as root user will crash the system. It won't. However, if you're exposed to the 'Net, you are begging anyone who finds a way to break in to take over your system. Also, doing things as root, esp. if you don't know what you're doing, is a wonderful way to destroy it. Think format c:/. regarding the halt command i used it to check what this command will do and this one i have done from the F manual only. I have no idea what the F manual is. From the command line, prompt man halt Linux, unlike Windows, comes with man pages for almost all commands. but now my VBOX machine crashed. CentOS crashed, or the VBOX? snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Sent from my mobile device Chaitanya A man can get discouraged many times but he is not a failure until he stops trying... The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'. http://doiop.com/dr.virus.india http://www.drvirusindia.co.cc/ http://chaitu09986025424.blog.co.in/ http://9986025424.co.cc -- Live news channels ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Dude I dont whether u read the entire thing whch i posted in my first mail at d botom of the post i gave u d error mesg whch i m geting Read d post first and i knw wt putty is I said dt i cannt able to login to my machine anymore and i cant get any logs as i m unable to log into d machine. As for the posts i m not the one who started speaking rude. On 5/12/10, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Dear roth This is wt u have started using of filthy language. Filthy language? Did you mean putty, which is a free Windows xterm that everyone uses? Or did you mean me telling you to read the *ahem* fine manuals? For your kind info when some one starts learning obviously makes mistake. This is the reaosn i have installed it in vbox Any way thank you for ur help i reinstalled my machine It is obviously the cent os which got crashed not the vbox i think u can get this from the error i have posted And you have posted *no* error. What was in /var/log/messages? Or what was on the monitor when it crashed? mark On 5/12/10, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Chaitanya, First, please stop top posting. Email is like a conversation, and simply makes more sense if you go to the end, just like reading a conversation. DO delete irrelevant stuff. Chaitanya wrote: This is the exact scenario of my machine. i am running the cent os under my virtual box and i have made a network bridge to that VBOX So, what's the host o/s, Windows? so from my machine i connect to the VBOX using the Xshell. What are you using, putty? and by the way i am new to linux and this is my test machine so that i do some testing. So READ UP on Linux/Unix. this is the F reason i am using the root user. DON'T. Either use root only to do maintenance, or just use sudo to do that. Do *not* test as a root user, except for things only root can do. what ever os is it i dont think logging in as root user will crash the system. It won't. However, if you're exposed to the 'Net, you are begging anyone who finds a way to break in to take over your system. Also, doing things as root, esp. if you don't know what you're doing, is a wonderful way to destroy it. Think format c:/. regarding the halt command i used it to check what this command will do and this one i have done from the F manual only. I have no idea what the F manual is. From the command line, prompt man halt Linux, unlike Windows, comes with man pages for almost all commands. but now my VBOX machine crashed. CentOS crashed, or the VBOX? snip mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Sent from my mobile device Chaitanya A man can get discouraged many times but he is not a failure until he stops trying... The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'. http://doiop.com/dr.virus.india http://www.drvirusindia.co.cc/ http://chaitu09986025424.blog.co.in/ http://9986025424.co.cc -- Live news channels ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Sent from my mobile device Chaitanya A man can get discouraged many times but he is not a failure until he stops trying... The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'. http://doiop.com/dr.virus.india http://www.drvirusindia.co.cc/ http://chaitu09986025424.blog.co.in/ http://9986025424.co.cc -- Live news channels ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Chaitanya Yanamadala dr.virus.in...@gmail.com wrote: Dude I dont whether u read the entire thing whch i posted in my first mail at d botom of the post i gave u d error mesg whch i m geting Read d post first and i knw wt putty is I said dt i cannt able to login to my machine anymore and i cant get any logs as i m unable to log into d machine. As for the posts i m not the one who started speaking rude. Grow a thicker skin. There is nothing on any of the posts that I would consider rude. These are volunteers on the lists, not paid support for your organization. If you want support, go purchase a RedHat subscription and they can help you. I read and re-read your original message and it's missing lots of details. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Kwan Lowe wrote: I read and re-read your original message and it's missing lots of details. its missing a lot of vowels, too. darn hard to read when nearly every word is misspelled. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
John wrote: Kwan Lowe wrote: I read and re-read your original message and it's missing lots of details. its missing a lot of vowels, too. darn hard to read when nearly every word is misspelled. Yeah, and then there was the lack of response, like what o/s he's running the vbox *in* I've given up on him - he's the one who gets snotty, when he comes here and asks us to help when he's not paying us anything, and doesn't give much indication that he's tried anything, like RTFM. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 13:02, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: John wrote: Kwan Lowe wrote: I read and re-read your original message and it's missing lots of details. its missing a lot of vowels, too. darn hard to read when nearly every word is misspelled. Yeah, and then there was the lack of response, like what o/s he's running the vbox *in* I've given up on him - he's the one who gets snotty, when he comes here and asks us to help when he's not paying us anything, and doesn't give much indication that he's tried anything, like RTFM. mark Some people need to have a macro written for them so that they can type phonetically and it will expand what they typed into a human-readable language. First assumption one could make is that they are lazy. Second assumption is that they never learned how to type. Third assumption is that a person who does this has only learned the absolute minimum of English to survive and refuses to learn anything beyond that. (This is an English language list). Fourth assumption is that the younger generation, which texts and twitters, is too impatient to communicate in English (that has vowels) and/or to spell correctly and/or to use minimally acceptable grammar. Beyond this, of course, a succinct (not too brief, but not too verbose, and accurate) description of the system and the problem encountered and what research had already been done, would be nice for the volunteers to have to use to assist. Of course, all we have at this point is some text that can lead to all kinds of assumptions, applicable or not, because we don't have enough information and the information that we do have leads us to think negatively of the person who initiated the email thread. See how easy it is to give readers the wrong impression about yourself on the basis of what you write and how you write it? Oh, well, I've ranted again... Ken Wolcott ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
Ken wrote: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 13:02, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: John wrote: Kwan Lowe wrote: I read and re-read your original message and it's missing lots of details. its missing a lot of vowels, too. darn hard to read when nearly every word is misspelled. Yeah, and then there was the lack of response, like what o/s he's running the vbox *in* I've given up on him - he's the one who gets snotty, when he comes here and asks us to help when he's not paying us anything, and doesn't give much indication that he's tried anything, like RTFM. snipo Third assumption is that a person who does this has only learned the absolute minimum of English to survive and refuses to learn anything beyond that. (This is an English language list). Fourth assumption is that the younger generation, which texts and twitters, is too impatient to communicate in English (that has vowels) and/or to spell correctly and/or to use minimally acceptable grammar. You forgot the fifth assumption, that they're too lazy to read man pages, howtos, or even google for the answer to their problem, and just expect to dump it on us, as though we're tech support from their school, or ISP, or corporate - that is, *PAID* support, and we'll solve the problem for them and give them the step-by-step, or, better, hand them a script that will Fix It All. snip mark, who does that for his employer, and his ladyfriend, only ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
On 5/12/2010 3:45 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: You forgot the fifth assumption, that they're too lazy to read man pages, howtos, or even google for the answer to their problem, and just expect to dump it on us, as though we're tech support from their school, or ISP, or corporate - that is, *PAID* support, and we'll solve the problem for them and give them the step-by-step, or, better, hand them a script that will Fix It All. Or sixth, that they had an expected problem and thought they might find friendly advice here from people familiar with the system. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 13:53, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/12/2010 3:45 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: You forgot the fifth assumption, that they're too lazy to read man pages, howtos, or even google for the answer to their problem, and just expect to dump it on us, as though we're tech support from their school, or ISP, or corporate - that is, *PAID* support, and we'll solve the problem for them and give them the step-by-step, or, better, hand them a script that will Fix It All. Or sixth, that they had an expected problem and thought they might find friendly advice here from people familiar with the system. Well, what he did describe was better than Help me NOW! or Help me please. When someone asks for help they should provide at least two things: 1. The situation; 2. What I tried; Both of those need to be in English. Not text-ese. These should be the minimum requirements to get free help. IMNSHO, Ken Wolcott ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] your session only lasted less than 10 seconds error
-Original Message- From: Chaitanya Yanamadala Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:10 snip/ A man can get discouraged many times but he is not a failure until he stops trying... Ah, relaxing reading, such a simple pleasure after a long day. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - - - Jason Pyeron PD Inc. http://www.pdinc.us - - Principal Consultant 10 West 24th Street #100- - +1 (443) 269-1555 x333Baltimore, Maryland 21218 - - - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- This message is copyright PD Inc, subject to license 20080407P00. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
