Re: [CentOS] Flaky graphics - need help nailing down the cause

2008-10-02 Thread MHR
SOLVED:

Thanks to all who piled in with their good advice.  I hooked up my old
(50lb) CRT and it showed the same display problems, so I figured it
was the video card.  Got lucky, found a replacement (the 7200GS) cheap
at our local Micro Center and all is now well again.

BTW, the beta driver I'm using is the one from rpmforge, and it is
now obsolete compared to the latest and greatest from nvidia (173.08-1
beta vs. 173.14.12), so I may put in a request over there to
update

Salut!

mhr
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RE: [CentOS] Flaky graphics - need help nailing down the cause

2008-10-01 Thread John
The video card is an nvidia ge7100gs and I have the beta driver from
rpmforge (under dkms).


JohnStanley Writes:

Get rid of the BETA Driver. Period! The beta driver is what is called a hot
driver (excerts to much stress on the vidieo card). DKMS is Nice but down
grade the driver. Im not much of a DKMS fan so I build my own nvidia drivers
as modules. Hopefully the card is still good.

JohnStanley

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Re: [CentOS] Flaky graphics - need help nailing down the cause

2008-10-01 Thread Ralph Angenendt
MHR wrote:
 The video card is an nvidia ge7100gs and I have the beta driver from
 rpmforge (under dkms).

Are you sure that you are using that driver and *not* the nv driver which 
comes with XOrg? With that one I've seen similar issues.

Ralph



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Re: [CentOS] Flaky graphics - need help nailing down the cause

2008-10-01 Thread MHR
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:01 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 MHR wrote:
 The video card is an nvidia ge7100gs and I have the beta driver from
 rpmforge (under dkms).

 Are you sure that you are using that driver and *not* the nv driver which
 comes with XOrg? With that one I've seen similar issues.

 Ralph

 JohnStanley Writes:

 That is a good question for him, maybe better to post his xorg config file.
 The standard driver will at times want to kind of like lag behind. Guess im
 gonna do a DKMS only machine to see how it works out with video drivers.


Well, when the nVIDIA screen pops up (before login and between
logins), it says BETA DRIVER right below the nVIDIA logo.

If I do downgrade (which I may well do), where do I get the right
driver?  I pulled these from rpmforge after my old driver didn't seem
to like the new monitor.

I'm all for not stressing the monitor - it's stressing me!

mhr
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RE: [CentOS] Flaky graphics - need help nailing down the cause

2008-10-01 Thread John
MHR wrote:
 The video card is an nvidia ge7100gs and I have the beta driver from
 rpmforge (under dkms).

Are you sure that you are using that driver and *not* the nv driver which
comes with XOrg? With that one I've seen similar issues.

Ralph

JohnStanley Writes:

That is a good question for him, maybe better to post his xorg config file.
The standard driver will at times want to kind of like lag behind. Guess im
gonna do a DKMS only machine to see how it works out with video drivers.

John

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RE: [CentOS] Flaky graphics - need help nailing down the cause

2008-10-01 Thread John
If I do downgrade (which I may well do), where do I get the right
driver?  I pulled these from rpmforge after my old driver didn't seem
to like the new monitor.

DKMS: http://linux.dell.com/dkms/manpage.html
You should use dkms remove module_name first. Reconfigure the standard
graphics. What is advisable to you is that you use the newest non beta dkms
driver for your card. You may have to hand fetch it. The reason I say this
because I do not your Unix/Linux skill level. It will be a lot easier on you
doing this because you will not have to hand build the driver module every
kernel upgrade. Or copy over to the new kernel modules dir.


http://wiki.centos.org/HardwareList/Nvidia_Graphics
This is a tutorial by me and Akemi Yagi.This method will work confirmed on
all centos/rhel versions 4.6 - 5.2. Be warned it is not finished but it will
give you a general idea of how to go about doing it.
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us 

JohnStanley

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Re: [CentOS] Flaky graphics - need help nailing down the cause

2008-10-01 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:35 AM, MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This morning I noticed that my (new in July) monitor was behaving
 strangely.  At first, it was odd parts of web page graphics that
 didn't show up unless I scrolled up and down in the window, and then
 they weren't displayed with any consistency.
snip
Mark: Hook up another monitor and see if it has the same behavior. If
so, get an RMA for the video card. If not, change the video card and
see what happens. Since this was working properly and you do not seem
to have changed any software, my impression is that you have a HW
problem. The monitor or the video card or possibly even a cable. There
are great diagnostics for video that run on MS Windows (Yuk), called
DisplayMate, put out by Displaymate Technologies Corp. Hopefully,
you can Download a Trial version and you will know whether or not
your monitor and video are working and set up correctly. I don't know
if there is something like that that will run on Linux. The
manufacturer of the monitor and video card might have Diagnostics on
their web sites that you can Download an run.  HTH,  Lanny
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Re: [CentOS] Flaky graphics - need help nailing down the cause

2008-10-01 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:35 AM, MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This morning I noticed that my (new in July) monitor was behaving
 strangely.  At first, it was odd parts of web page graphics that
 didn't show up unless I scrolled up and down in the window, and then
 they weren't displayed with any consistency.
 snip
 Mark: Hook up another monitor and see if it has the same behavior. If
 so, get an RMA for the video card. If not, change the video card and
 see what happens. Since this was working properly and you do not seem
 to have changed any software, my impression is that you have a HW
 problem. The monitor or the video card or possibly even a cable. There
 are great diagnostics for video that run on MS Windows (Yuk), called
 DisplayMate, put out by Displaymate Technologies Corp. Hopefully,
 you can Download a Trial version and you will know whether or not
 your monitor and video are working and set up correctly. I don't know
 if there is something like that that will run on Linux. The
 manufacturer of the monitor and video card might have Diagnostics on
 their web sites that you can Download an run.  HTH,  Lanny

Follow on to my first reply. DisplayMate is not only Diagnostics. It
helps you set up your monitor and video card correctly. This is
professional quality stuff, but if your box isn't dual boot with
Windows, it won't run. Maybe they have a version that will run on
Linux now. I bought it, years ago.  If you can run it, they are *the*
experts.
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