Re: [CentOS] OT: Dell BIOS and mixed drives

2008-01-16 Thread David G. Miller

Jerry S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] top posted his reply:


In the BIOS you should also be able to specify the boot drive as well.

jer

Barry Schiffman wrote:
  

 I have a Dell Precision 360, which has both onboard
 SATA and ultra ATA controllers, and I put one of each
 kind of drive into the bays to make an experimental
 machine with the xen kernel. 
 
 After enabling both of drives, the BIOS recognizes

 each drive, but it fails to boot, giving me the
 message secondary drive 1 not found. The BIOS gives
 me a choice of going ahead or going to setup. Choosing
 'continue anyway' has no effect.
 
 I can circumvent this going to F12 to manually choose

 to boot from the 'Primary Master' (rather than the
 SATA primary, or the CD, or Hard Disk Drive C:). I
 still get the warning about secondary drive 1 not
 found, but now I can choose to go ahead. At this
 point, grub takes over and everything is fine, boots
 fine, both drives show up. 
 
 In fact, I installed CentOS from the DVD, and during

 installation there was no hint of a problem with using
 the two drives.
 
 In the BIOS setup, I do not get all the drives to
 choose from -- just Hard Disk Drive C: and the CD. 
 
 Can anyone suggest a way around this?
Depending on the BIOS options, you may be able to set the SATA to no 
auto-detect and no drive.  The kernel should still probe the SATA 
channel and give you access to the drive once the system is up.  This is 
highly BIOS dependent but I've seen it work as described when the BIOS 
supports it.


It's kind of strange that the BIOS is complaining about secondary drive 
1 not found.  Sounds like a BIOS bug.  Is there a BIOS update available?


Cheers,
Dave

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Dell BIOS and mixed drives

2008-01-16 Thread Barry Schiffman
--- David G. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jerry S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] top posted his reply:
 
  In the BIOS you should also be able to specify the
 boot drive as well.
 
  jer
 
  Barry Schiffman wrote:

   I have a Dell Precision 360, which has both
 onboard
   SATA and ultra ATA controllers, and I put one
 of each
   kind of drive into the bays to make an
 experimental
   machine with the xen kernel. 
   
   After enabling both of drives, the BIOS
 recognizes
   each drive, but it fails to boot, giving me the
   message secondary drive 1 not found. The BIOS
 gives
   me a choice of going ahead or going to setup.
 Choosing
   'continue anyway' has no effect.
   
   I can circumvent this going to F12 to manually
 choose
   to boot from the 'Primary Master' (rather than
 the
   SATA primary, or the CD, or Hard Disk Drive
 C:). I
   still get the warning about secondary drive 1
 not
   found, but now I can choose to go ahead. At
 this
   point, grub takes over and everything is fine,
 boots
   fine, both drives show up. 
   
   In fact, I installed CentOS from the DVD, and
 during
   installation there was no hint of a problem
 with using
   the two drives.
   
   In the BIOS setup, I do not get all the drives
 to
   choose from -- just Hard Disk Drive C: and the
 CD. 
   
   Can anyone suggest a way around this?
 Depending on the BIOS options, you may be able to
 set the SATA to no 
 auto-detect and no drive.  The kernel should
 still probe the SATA 
 channel and give you access to the drive once the
 system is up.  This is 
 highly BIOS dependent but I've seen it work as
 described when the BIOS 
 supports it.
 
 It's kind of strange that the BIOS is complaining
 about secondary drive 
 1 not found.  Sounds like a BIOS bug.  Is there a
 BIOS update available?
 
 Cheers,
 Dave

I believe that's the case. In fact, there have been
four updates since the version that's on the box now.
They address a bunch of issues, but nothing quite like
this. Either, I'll hunt up another SATA drive
(presumably Dell sold these with with two drives) or
I'll do the update in the next week or so. 

The options in this BIOS is limited. AUTO or OFF. When
it's off, it's invisible from there on.

Thanks,

Barry



  

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Dell BIOS and mixed drives

2008-01-16 Thread Les Mikesell

Barry Schiffman wrote:


I believe that's the case. In fact, there have been
four updates since the version that's on the box now.
They address a bunch of issues, but nothing quite like
this. Either, I'll hunt up another SATA drive
(presumably Dell sold these with with two drives) or
I'll do the update in the next week or so. 


The options in this BIOS is limited. AUTO or OFF. When
it's off, it's invisible from there on.



I don't have that specific model, but I've seen bios versions that just 
list 'hard drive' as one of the choices where you are setting boot order 
but there is another place where you pick which of several hard drives 
should be primary.  But rather than fight with that part, I usually 
install grub and /boot on whichever drive the box prefers to boot and / 
can be somewhere else - even a drive not seen by bios.


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RE: [CentOS] OT: Dell BIOS and mixed drives

2008-01-15 Thread Robert - elists
 
 I have a Dell Precision 360, which has both onboard
 SATA and ultra ATA controllers, and I put one of each
 kind of drive into the bays to make an experimental
 machine with the xen kernel.
 
 After enabling both of drives, the BIOS recognizes
 each drive, but it fails to boot, giving me the
 message secondary drive 1 not found. The BIOS gives
 me a choice of going ahead or going to setup. Choosing
 'continue anyway' has no effect.
 
 I can circumvent this going to F12 to manually choose
 to boot from the 'Primary Master' (rather than the
 SATA primary, or the CD, or Hard Disk Drive C:). I
 still get the warning about secondary drive 1 not
 found, but now I can choose to go ahead. At this
 point, grub takes over and everything is fine, boots
 fine, both drives show up.
 
 In fact, I installed CentOS from the DVD, and during
 installation there was no hint of a problem with using
 the two drives.
 
 In the BIOS setup, I do not get all the drives to
 choose from -- just Hard Disk Drive C: and the CD.
 
 Can anyone suggest a way around this?
 
 

Check support.dell.com for newer BIOS and update as necessary

 - rh

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Dell BIOS and mixed drives

2008-01-15 Thread Jerry S.

In the BIOS you should also be able to specify the boot drive as well.

jer

Barry Schiffman wrote:

I have a Dell Precision 360, which has both onboard
SATA and ultra ATA controllers, and I put one of each
kind of drive into the bays to make an experimental
machine with the xen kernel. 


After enabling both of drives, the BIOS recognizes
each drive, but it fails to boot, giving me the
message secondary drive 1 not found. The BIOS gives
me a choice of going ahead or going to setup. Choosing
'continue anyway' has no effect.

I can circumvent this going to F12 to manually choose
to boot from the 'Primary Master' (rather than the
SATA primary, or the CD, or Hard Disk Drive C:). I
still get the warning about secondary drive 1 not
found, but now I can choose to go ahead. At this
point, grub takes over and everything is fine, boots
fine, both drives show up. 


In fact, I installed CentOS from the DVD, and during
installation there was no hint of a problem with using
the two drives.

In the BIOS setup, I do not get all the drives to
choose from -- just Hard Disk Drive C: and the CD. 


Can anyone suggest a way around this?




  

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