Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-21 Thread ken

On 12/18/2015 08:35 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:

On 15/12/15 23:46, ken wrote:

On 12/15/2015 04:22 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:

Trying to specify the "installation source" in the configuration of
netinstall for centos 7 (7.1).  Three places on the web said

mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/

But that configuration page probes, then it says, "Error setting up
base repository".

What's the magic needed?

Also, if anyone knows specs for epel and others, they might help too.


use one of the actual mirrors.
http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/


Nope.  No go.


Switch to the VC's and see what the error message is in the logs. do you
have networking setup at this point ? is it working as you'd expect ?


Sorry, I bailed on the netinstall, went with a CDinstall.  Thanks for 
the offer to help.


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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-18 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 12/17/2015 07:02 AM, ken wrote:
What I described was plenty enough for anyone who's been through the 
netinstall configuration before.  There's no point in explanation a 
simple gui for those who don't what I'm talking about. 


It might look that way to you, as a new user, but all along the way 
you're making choices that you take for granted, but can affect the 
outcome of the process.  In order for us to help you troubleshoot a 
technical problem, you need to describe very specifically the steps you 
took before you saw the problem.


It's easy enough to *say* that "it's pretty fool-proof" but you were 
describing a series of attempts using input that definitely wouldn't 
have worked.  You were mixing /7/ in the download URL, which is a 
symlink to /7.2.1511/, with /7.1.1503/.  IIRC, you can't mix those. 
Installation media has to match the installation tree.  You were also 
trying URLs that weren't even install trees, but ISO directories.


Anyway, I hope this thread convinces some people that minimal and 
netinstall should not be recommended to new users.

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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 15/12/15 23:46, ken wrote:
> On 12/15/2015 04:22 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:
>>> Trying to specify the "installation source" in the configuration of
>>> netinstall for centos 7 (7.1).  Three places on the web said
>>>
>>> mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/
>>>
>>> But that configuration page probes, then it says, "Error setting up
>>> base repository".
>>>
>>> What's the magic needed?
>>>
>>> Also, if anyone knows specs for epel and others, they might help too.
>>
>> use one of the actual mirrors.
>> http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/
> 
> Nope.  No go.

Switch to the VC's and see what the error message is in the logs. do you
have networking setup at this point ? is it working as you'd expect ?


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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-17 Thread ken

On 12/16/2015 01:13 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 12/15/2015 04:09 PM, ken wrote:




To be fair, an accurate description of what you're doing would be
worthwhile, too.


What I described was plenty enough for anyone who's been through the 
netinstall configuration before.  There's no point in explanation a 
simple gui for those who don't what I'm talking about.





I downloaded
http://mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7-x86_64-NetInstall-1511.iso.


I installed netinstall without a problem.



Its sha256sum is
9ed9ffb5d89ab8cca834afce354daa70a21dcb410f58287d6316259ff89758f5, which
matches sha256sum.txt.


Well, I prefer md5sums, so pretty much the same.  Moreover, k3b, the app 
I use to burn CDs talks md5sums, not shasums.




I booted from the ISO, selected "installation source" and entered
"mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/centos/7/isos/x86_64/" in the field to the
right of the "http://; prefix.


Yeah, I did all that exactly the same.  It's pretty idiot-proof for just 
about anyone to do all that correctly.





Anaconda downloaded the package list and allowed me to select package
groups.


And that means success... which I didn't get... because something in 
netinstall wasn't working right.  See my response in this thread to what 
I wrote to Fred.  You've given me a lot of good and pivotal help and 
info in past here, I appreciate all that very much.  That's for sharing 
my frustration.  Believe me, I've had a lot myself.

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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-16 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 12/15/2015 04:09 PM, ken wrote:

I'm not sure why that wouldn't work.  I'm pretty sure you need to use a
repository whose version matches the ISO, but that should be the case
unless you got the netinstall ISO before 7.2 was released.

Maybe pick a specific mirror, such as
http://mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/centos/7/os/x86_64/
(https://www.centos.org/download/mirrors/)


Tried the one above and a lot of others replied to John, many others. 
This is one of those  situation where accurate understandable 
documentation would be worthwhile. 


To be fair, an accurate description of what you're doing would be 
worthwhile, too.


I downloaded 
http://mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7-x86_64-NetInstall-1511.iso.


Its sha256sum is 
9ed9ffb5d89ab8cca834afce354daa70a21dcb410f58287d6316259ff89758f5, which 
matches sha256sum.txt.


I booted from the ISO, selected "installation source" and entered 
"mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/centos/7/isos/x86_64/" in the field to the 
right of the "http://; prefix.


Anaconda downloaded the package list and allowed me to select package 
groups.


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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:
But that configuration page probes, then it says, "Error setting up 
base repository". 


I'm not sure why that wouldn't work.  I'm pretty sure you need to use a 
repository whose version matches the ISO, but that should be the case 
unless you got the netinstall ISO before 7.2 was released.


Maybe pick a specific mirror, such as 
http://mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/centos/7/os/x86_64/

(https://www.centos.org/download/mirrors/)

Any URL where you see a "repodata" directory (assuming the correct arch 
and release) should work as an additional repository (for EPEL and others).

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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread John R Pierce

On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:

centos 7 (7.1).  Three places on the web said

mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/ 



oh, the /7/ directory is now 7.2, so you likely should be using the 7.2 
netinstall.


if you really want 7.1, try...
http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/



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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread ken

On 12/15/2015 04:24 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:

centos 7 (7.1).  Three places on the web said

mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/



oh, the /7/ directory is now 7.2, so you likely should be using the 7.2
netinstall.

if you really want 7.1, try...
http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/


I tried all  of those things, all kinds of combinations...

mirrors.kernel.org, mirror.rit.edu, other things

with .../centos/N/os/x86_64/  where N= 7, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2

also trying prepending http:// and https://

Nothing works.


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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread ken

On 12/15/2015 04:22 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:

Trying to specify the "installation source" in the configuration of
netinstall for centos 7 (7.1).  Three places on the web said

mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/

But that configuration page probes, then it says, "Error setting up
base repository".

What's the magic needed?

Also, if anyone knows specs for epel and others, they might help too.


use one of the actual mirrors.
http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/


Nope.  No go.

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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread John R Pierce

On 12/15/2015 4:21 PM, ken wrote:
I don't think so.  Go to 
http://mirror.teklinks.com/centos/7.1.1503/isos/x86_64/ and see what's 
at that URL.  I did try it using in netinstall (just trying 
*everything* possible), it yielded the same error  once again... and 
there aren't any Packages to be found which would be meaningful for 
installing packages. 



hmm?  thats the directory with the ISO files, the packages are over in 
../../os/x86_64, here,


http://mirror.teklinks.com/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/in ./Packages/



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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread John R Pierce

On 12/15/2015 4:44 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

Why do you want to do a net install.  Download the DVD (ie:
CentOS-7-x86_64-DVD-1511.iso ) and install from that.  The install will
be much faster than off site net install and you don't need a network
connection to do the install.



I still prefer installing the 'minimal' iso, then installing the 
specific packages your deployment requires via yum.


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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/15/2015 06:47 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 12/15/2015 4:44 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> Why do you want to do a net install.  Download the DVD (ie:
>> CentOS-7-x86_64-DVD-1511.iso ) and install from that.  The install will
>> be much faster than off site net install and you don't need a network
>> connection to do the install.
> 
> 
> I still prefer installing the 'minimal' iso, then installing the
> specific packages your deployment requires via yum.
> 

I do that as well .. but that requires knowing how to work with yum
groups and or being able to figure out another way which exact packages
you actually need.

I am not entirely sure that inexperienced admins can do that very well :)



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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread ken

On 12/15/2015 04:28 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:

But that configuration page probes, then it says, "Error setting up
base repository".


I'm not sure why that wouldn't work.  I'm pretty sure you need to use a
repository whose version matches the ISO, but that should be the case
unless you got the netinstall ISO before 7.2 was released.

Maybe pick a specific mirror, such as
http://mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/centos/7/os/x86_64/
(https://www.centos.org/download/mirrors/)


Tried the one above and a lot of others replied to John, many others. 
This is one of those  situation where accurate understandable 
documentation would be worthwhile.




Any URL where you see a "repodata" directory (assuming the correct arch
and release) should work as an additional repository (for EPEL and others).


I'll save this tip for later.  First I need to get the basic, *easy* (?) 
specification working.


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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread ken

On 12/15/2015 06:57 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/15/2015 3:55 PM, ken wrote:

On 12/15/2015 04:24 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:

centos 7 (7.1). Three places on the web said

mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/



oh, the /7/ directory is now 7.2, so you likely should be using the 7.2
netinstall.

if you really want 7.1, try...
http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/


I tried all  of those things, all kinds of combinations...

mirrors.kernel.org, mirror.rit.edu, other things

with .../centos/N/os/x86_64/  where N= 7, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2

also trying prepending http:// and https://


if your netinstall disk is 7.1, N should be 7.1.1503


I don't think so.  Go to 
http://mirror.teklinks.com/centos/7.1.1503/isos/x86_64/ and see what's 
at that URL.  I did try it using in netinstall (just trying *everything* 
possible), it yielded the same error  once again... and there aren't any 
Packages to be found which would be meaningful for installing packages.


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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread John R Pierce

On 12/15/2015 3:55 PM, ken wrote:

On 12/15/2015 04:24 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:

centos 7 (7.1). Three places on the web said

mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/



oh, the /7/ directory is now 7.2, so you likely should be using the 7.2
netinstall.

if you really want 7.1, try...
http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/


I tried all  of those things, all kinds of combinations...

mirrors.kernel.org, mirror.rit.edu, other things

with .../centos/N/os/x86_64/  where N= 7, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2

also trying prepending http:// and https://


if your netinstall disk is 7.1, N should be 7.1.1503



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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/15/2015 06:21 PM, ken wrote:
> On 12/15/2015 06:57 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 12/15/2015 3:55 PM, ken wrote:
>>> On 12/15/2015 04:24 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:
> centos 7 (7.1). Three places on the web said
>
> mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/


 oh, the /7/ directory is now 7.2, so you likely should be using the 7.2
 netinstall.

 if you really want 7.1, try...
 http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/
>>>
>>> I tried all  of those things, all kinds of combinations...
>>>
>>> mirrors.kernel.org, mirror.rit.edu, other things
>>>
>>> with .../centos/N/os/x86_64/  where N= 7, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2
>>>
>>> also trying prepending http:// and https://
>>
>> if your netinstall disk is 7.1, N should be 7.1.1503
> 
> I don't think so.  Go to
> http://mirror.teklinks.com/centos/7.1.1503/isos/x86_64/ and see what's
> at that URL.  I did try it using in netinstall (just trying *everything*
> possible), it yielded the same error  once again... and there aren't any
> Packages to be found which would be meaningful for installing packages.

/7/ right now == /7.2.1511/

If you want to install 7.1.1503, which is now outdated and contains
security issues, so you likely do NOT want to do it .. BUT .. if you do
then the path is:

http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/

But, that is only going to work for a couple more days.  CentOS does not
support old versions, and that tree will be moved to the vault.

Why do you want to do a net install.  Download the DVD (ie:
CentOS-7-x86_64-DVD-1511.iso ) and install from that.  The install will
be much faster than off site net install and you don't need a network
connection to do the install.






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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread ken

On 12/15/2015 07:44 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

On 12/15/2015 06:21 PM, ken wrote:

On 12/15/2015 06:57 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/15/2015 3:55 PM, ken wrote:

On 12/15/2015 04:24 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:

centos 7 (7.1). Three places on the web said

mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/



oh, the /7/ directory is now 7.2, so you likely should be using the 7.2
netinstall.

if you really want 7.1, try...
http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/


I tried all  of those things, all kinds of combinations...

mirrors.kernel.org, mirror.rit.edu, other things

with .../centos/N/os/x86_64/  where N= 7, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2

also trying prepending http:// and https://


if your netinstall disk is 7.1, N should be 7.1.1503


I don't think so.  Go to
http://mirror.teklinks.com/centos/7.1.1503/isos/x86_64/ and see what's
at that URL.  I did try it using in netinstall (just trying *everything*
possible), it yielded the same error  once again... and there aren't any
Packages to be found which would be meaningful for installing packages.


/7/ right now == /7.2.1511/


Also doesn't work.




If you want to install 7.1.1503, which is now outdated and contains
security issues, so you likely do NOT want to do it .. BUT .. if you do
then the path is:

http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/


Also doesn't work.




But, that is only going to work for a couple more days.  CentOS does not
support old versions, and that tree will be moved to the vault.

Why do you want to do a net install.  Download the DVD (ie:
CentOS-7-x86_64-DVD-1511.iso ) and install from that.  The install will
be much faster than off site net install and you don't need a network
connection to do the install.


As explained at the top of the other thread, for some reason my three 
flashdrives didn't work, or else the downloads worked.  I don't have any 
DVDs at the moment.  But going out for shopping for some might be the 
solution.


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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread John R Pierce

On 12/15/2015 12:29 PM, ken wrote:
Trying to specify the "installation source" in the configuration of 
netinstall for centos 7 (7.1).  Three places on the web said


mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/

But that configuration page probes, then it says, "Error setting up 
base repository".


What's the magic needed?

Also, if anyone knows specs for epel and others, they might help too. 


use one of the actual mirrors.
http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/



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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread ken

On 12/15/2015 07:39 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 12/15/2015 4:21 PM, ken wrote:

I don't think so.  Go to
http://mirror.teklinks.com/centos/7.1.1503/isos/x86_64/ and see what's
at that URL.  I did try it using in netinstall (just trying
*everything* possible), it yielded the same error  once again... and
there aren't any Packages to be found which would be meaningful for
installing packages.



hmm?  thats the directory with the ISO files, the packages are over in
../../os/x86_64, here,

http://mirror.teklinks.com/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/in ./Packages/


Believe me, I  wish it  did  work.  I've been at this stupid 
specification which should be easy and done over with hours ago.  But it 
doesn't work.


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Re: [CentOS] "installation source" specification for netinstall

2015-12-15 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 08:24:17PM -0500, ken wrote:
> On 12/15/2015 07:39 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
> >On 12/15/2015 4:21 PM, ken wrote:
> >>I don't think so.  Go to
> >>http://mirror.teklinks.com/centos/7.1.1503/isos/x86_64/ and see what's
> >>at that URL.  I did try it using in netinstall (just trying
> >>*everything* possible), it yielded the same error  once again... and
> >>there aren't any Packages to be found which would be meaningful for
> >>installing packages.
> >
> >
> >hmm?  thats the directory with the ISO files, the packages are over in
> >../../os/x86_64, here,
> >
> >http://mirror.teklinks.com/centos/7.1.1503/os/x86_64/in ./Packages/

This one works:

http://mirrors.mit.edu/centos/7/os/x86_64/

I know because I/ve used it for net installs twice in the last
week or two,  most recently a Thursday of last week.

> Believe me, I  wish it  did  work.  I've been at this stupid
> specification which should be easy and done over with hours ago.
> But it doesn't work.

I agreee that it would be nice to have some better doc on how to
choose the URL for a net install, I've stumbled around in the dark
at times past trying to figure it out, too.

but it definitely DOES work if you get the URL right (and if you have
your networking set up correctly, and the mirror isn't broken, and...,
and..., etc.).

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