Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/12/2011 12:17 AM, Florin Andrei wrote:
> If you give the VM only 512 MB of RAM, the text-mode installer kicks in.
> It does not prompt you to configure anything

you can use a kickstart to get all the config options in.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/12/2011 1:46 PM, Florin Andrei wrote:
> On 07/12/2011 12:10 AM, helpaz wrote:
>>
>> http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.0
>> 4. Known Issues
>> The installer needs at least 392MB of memory to work. Text mode will
>> automatically be used if the system has less than 652MB of memory.
>
> Yeah, that's it, I'm reading the notes now.
>
> It's not terribly bad, since there are few systems nowadays with only
> 512 MB of RAM (that you would want to run C6 on). Just a bit annoying.

It would be nice if there were a straightforward way to adjust the 
configured devices on an installed system like you have to do if you 
want to restore a backup onto different hardware.  It's not impossible, 
but you have to know as much about hardware and drivers as the 
mostly-undocumented installer to do it.  If it were simple, you could 
install an image in a comfortably-equipped VM, then clone it to a 
minimal runtime system.  I suppose you could go though those motions to 
get the kickstart file that is logged as part of the install and use 
that to repeat the install.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-12 Thread Florin Andrei
On 07/12/2011 12:10 AM, helpaz wrote:
>
> http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.0
> 4. Known Issues
> The installer needs at least 392MB of memory to work. Text mode will
> automatically be used if the system has less than 652MB of memory.

Yeah, that's it, I'm reading the notes now.

It's not terribly bad, since there are few systems nowadays with only 
512 MB of RAM (that you would want to run C6 on). Just a bit annoying.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:12:21 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
> centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
> > If you give the VM 768 MB of RAM, the GUI installer is launched,

> Can you decieve this installer with swap?

Overcommit on the host, if you can do that.

If you could get a shell before anaconda starts you might possibly be able to 
set up swap; have never tried that.
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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-12 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> 
>> Someone posted that you can use VNC to install CentOS 6.
> 
> and this has WHAT to do with low ram installs?
> 
> PLEASE stop this noise, just to hear yourself talk, Ljubomir

In this context, Russ, Ljubomir > Russ for adding useful fact to the
list.



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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-12 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
> (I'm doing tests in a VirtualBox instance, so take this with
> a grain of
> salt.)
> 
> If you give the VM only 512 MB of RAM, the text-mode
> installer kicks in.

> If you give the VM 768 MB of RAM, the GUI installer is launched,

Can you decieve this installer with swap?


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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-12 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Rudi Ahlers wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Andy Holt  
> wrote:
 Someone posted that you can use VNC to install CentOS 6.
>>> and this has WHAT to do with low ram installs?
>> It means you get to do a graphical install, which you otherwise can't if you 
>> don't have enough RAM i.e. less than 652MB.
>>
>> hth Andy
>>
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> 
> 
> 
> Surely Russ would have known that, if he followed the link to the
> RHEL6 documentation on THIS VERY MATTER.
> 
> Russ, there's no need to be rude to someone who's trying to help.
> 
> 
Russ point's out that if installer lacks enough RAM for full graphical 
install it will not have it for VNC install either.

That very much might be true, but you have nothing to loose to try and 
report back

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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-12 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Andy Holt  wrote:
>> > Someone posted that you can use VNC to install CentOS 6.
>>
>> and this has WHAT to do with low ram installs?
>
> It means you get to do a graphical install, which you otherwise can't if you 
> don't have enough RAM i.e. less than 652MB.
>
> hth Andy
>
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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-12 Thread Andy Holt
> > Someone posted that you can use VNC to install CentOS 6.
> 
> and this has WHAT to do with low ram installs?

It means you get to do a graphical install, which you otherwise can't if you 
don't have enough RAM i.e. less than 652MB.

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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-12 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Florin Andrei wrote:
> (I'm doing tests in a VirtualBox instance, so take this with a grain of 
> salt.)
> 
> If you give the VM only 512 MB of RAM, the text-mode installer kicks in. 
> It does not prompt you to configure anything related to the network or 
> hostname. The system boots up without a network interface configured. 
> Also, it won't let you choose the install mode, I guess it defaults to 
> Minimal (which is fine by me, but still it's a bug).
> 
> If you give the VM 768 MB of RAM, the GUI installer is launched, and 
> this one allows you to configure the hostname, the networking details, 
> and choose the install mode. The system boots up with networking and all 
> the niceties enabled.
> 
Someone posted that you can use VNC to install CentOS 6.

Excerpts:

"Anaconda therefore includes a Virtual Network Computing (VNC) mode that 
allows the graphical mode of the installer to run locally, but display 
on a system connected to the network. Installing in VNC mode provides 
you with the full range of installation options, even in situations 
where the system lacks a display or input devices."

Visit installation guide for more info: 
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/vncwhitepaperadded.html

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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-12 Thread helpaz
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 02:17, Florin Andrei  wrote:
> (I'm doing tests in a VirtualBox instance, so take this with a grain of
> salt.)
>
> If you give the VM only 512 MB of RAM, the text-mode installer kicks in.
> It does not prompt you to configure anything related to the network or
> hostname. The system boots up without a network interface configured.
> Also, it won't let you choose the install mode, I guess it defaults to
> Minimal (which is fine by me, but still it's a bug).
>
> If you give the VM 768 MB of RAM, the GUI installer is launched, and
> this one allows you to configure the hostname, the networking details,
> and choose the install mode. The system boots up with networking and all
> the niceties enabled.
>
> --
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http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS6.0
4. Known Issues
The installer needs at least 392MB of memory to work. Text mode will
automatically be used if the system has less than 652MB of memory.
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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-11 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:17:24 -0700 CentOS mailing list  
wrote:

> 
> (I'm doing tests in a VirtualBox instance, so take this with a grain of 
> salt.)
> 
> If you give the VM only 512 MB of RAM, the text-mode installer kicks in. 
> It does not prompt you to configure anything related to the network or 
> hostname. The system boots up without a network interface configured. 
> Also, it won't let you choose the install mode, I guess it defaults to 
> Minimal (which is fine by me, but still it's a bug).
> 
> If you give the VM 768 MB of RAM, the GUI installer is launched, and 
> this one allows you to configure the hostname, the networking details, 
> and choose the install mode. The system boots up with networking and all 
> the niceties enabled.

I don't know if this relates or not, but attempting to install FC15 in a
VM with only 512M of memory, fails: the kernel / installer hangs.  It
looks like the minimum memory requirements to install FC15 (and it looks
like RHel / CentOS 6 as well) is something greater than 512meg and probably
something closer to 1G.

> 

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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 04:17:24PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote:
> (I'm doing tests in a VirtualBox instance, so take this with a grain of 
> salt.)
> 
> If you give the VM only 512 MB of RAM, the text-mode installer kicks in. 
> It does not prompt you to configure anything related to the network or 
> hostname. The system boots up without a network interface configured. 
> Also, it won't let you choose the install mode, I guess it defaults to 
> Minimal (which is fine by me, but still it's a bug).

It's possible--according to RH, it's streamlined and
simplified--accordingto everyone else, it's become a crippled thing.  
I know that there is no option for disk partitioning, and possibly no
option for custom package selection.



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Re: [CentOS] 6.0 text-mode installer broken?

2011-07-11 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 07/12/2011 12:17 AM, Florin Andrei wrote:
> (I'm doing tests in a VirtualBox instance, so take this with a grain of
> salt.)
>
> If you give the VM only 512 MB of RAM, the text-mode installer kicks in.
> It does not prompt you to configure anything related to the network or
> hostname. The system boots up without a network interface configured.
> Also, it won't let you choose the install mode, I guess it defaults to
> Minimal (which is fine by me, but still it's a bug).
>
> If you give the VM 768 MB of RAM, the GUI installer is launched, and
> this one allows you to configure the hostname, the networking details,
> and choose the install mode. The system boots up with networking and all
> the niceties enabled.
>

I saw this in rhel 6 and newer fedora versions, the anaconda text 
installer comes with minimal options, to have full options you should 
use GUI or use kickstart.


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