Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2
Hi, On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 23:00, Mark Hedgeshed...@scriptdolphin.com wrote: DBD::SQLite is not available in yum so I make it with CPAN. libapreq2 (Apache2::Cookie/Apache2::Request) is not available in yum and does not run the tests right with the CPAN installer as root so I make it from source. I believe both perl-DBD-SQLite 1.14 and libapreq2 2.09 are available from EPEL. perl-DBD-SQLite 1.25 is available from RPMforge. For more information on how to use these repositories: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories I would not advise to mix those two repositories, and whichever one you use, I would advise you to use the yum priorities plugin to avoid having them upgrade packages of your base CentOS setup. You may also join the mailing lists of those repositories to request the addition of new packages or upgrades of some of them to specific versions. In that case I would recommend the RPMforge repository, IMO their work with the Perl packages is very good. HTH, Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2
Mark Hedges wrote: You can report problems on the CentOS bug tracker at: http://bugs.centos.org/ Umm, as I said, I couldn't sign up to file a bug report. Nope, still broken. APPLICATION ERROR #2800 Invalid form security token. Did you submit the form twice by accident? I am not sure how you are applying for your login. I was able to use IE7 and IE8 on Windows XP, Firefox on Windows, and Firefox on Linux to obtain a login. snip signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 05:59 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: Mark Hedges wrote: You can report problems on the CentOS bug tracker at: http://bugs.centos.org/ Umm, as I said, I couldn't sign up to file a bug report. Nope, still broken. APPLICATION ERROR #2800 Invalid form security token. Did you submit the form twice by accident? I am not sure how you are applying for your login. I was able to use IE7 and IE8 on Windows XP, Firefox on Windows, and Firefox on Linux to obtain a login. snip --- To add to that it does give an error at times on logging in. Does not matter what os/browser. Also on account creation. John ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2
Hi, On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 17:58, Mark Hedgeshed...@scriptdolphin.com wrote: Who packages httpd for Centos? Is there some way to contact a person to ask them about this? You can report problems on the CentOS bug tracker at: http://bugs.centos.org/ If the problem is reproducible in RHEL as well, you might as well report it directly at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ I feel like it's pointless to ask why don't distributions upgrade within the minor revision number of the stable 2.2 series anyway. 2.2.3 is certainly not as stable as 2.2.11 and the API is supposed to be the same. Oh right the big picture. :-( 2.2.3 in CentOS/RHEL is not the same as 2.2.3 upstream... it's only the base release after which patches are applied. The name 2.2.3 is kept because potentially not all the upstream patches that went to 2.2.11 will go into CentOS/RHEL's 2.2.3, in theory only security updates are applied inside a minor OS release and RedHat might decide to skip some of the patches introduced between 2.2.3 and 2.2.11 if they believe they are not relevant to their product. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 00:48, Mark Hedgeshed...@scriptdolphin.com wrote: Here's what people have collected so far: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=47983 First: you still did not describe your problem on this mailing list, so it's really hard to help you with that. Second: from that link it seems that you have installed Perl modules directly from CPAN. Is that true? If you did and your system broke, well, you got to keep the pieces... It's known that CPAN modules and RPM modules do not play together well and will tend to break in upgrades. I suggest you install a CentOS 5.3 machine from scratch and try to reproduce the problem there. If it still happens, then report it to CentOS's bug tracker and/or to the mailing list. HTH, Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2
Mark Hedges wrote: On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Ned Slider wrote: Filipe Brandenburger wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:30, Mark Hedgeshed...@scriptdolphin.com wrote: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SELinux Is this why DBD::SQLite broke under mod_perl recently in CentOS? It might or might not be... In order to be sure, you may check the audit logs at /var/log/audit/audit.log (make sure the audit RPM is installed and the auditd daemon is enabled and running), you might see SELinux messages in that file when some access is denied. Further to Filipe's advice, if you temporarily switch SELinux into permissive mode and stuff then works again, take that as a pretty good indication that it was indeed SELinux that was preventing it. At that point you know where to look to fix the problem. No, this is not my problem anyway. hed...@anubis:~$ sestatus SELinux status: disabled With SELinux off, any script run by apache can access anything on the filesystem that can be read by the apache process user. Maybe that's not the best way to do it, but it confirms that SELinux is not causing DBD::MySQL to break under mod_perl in CentOS 5.3. It looks like it was a buggy release in apr-util 1.2.7-7.el5_3.1 or httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2 Who packages httpd for Centos? Is there some way to contact a person to ask them about this? I feel like it's pointless to ask why don't distributions upgrade within the minor revision number of the stable 2.2 series anyway. 2.2.3 is certainly not as stable as 2.2.11 and the API is supposed to be the same. Oh right the big picture. :-( Well ... here is what I can tell you: http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting/?sc_cid=3093 They do roll in bug fixes. I know it can be frustrating (it is for me to and I build this stuff) ... WRT the httpd package ... if you look at the RHEL and CentOS httpd SRPMs you will see that the change in the spec file is cosmetic and only controls CentOS being displayed instead of Red Hat as required by their trademark restrictions. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2
Mark Hedges wrote: Here's what people have collected so far: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=47983 This is a message I posted when I signed up for the list, I thought it was ignored but it looks like it didn't post: I looked through it and wow it does seem like a fairly deep issue, reminds me of the problems I have when I need to ask for help often I don't get responses as they are deep as well. I don't think I'm able to help on this one but am curious how much of the components your working with are built from outside sources? I get the impression that your using quite a few modules directly from CPAN, are you using sqlite and mod_perl stuff from outside CentOS as well? nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2
You can report problems on the CentOS bug tracker at: http://bugs.centos.org/ Umm, as I said, I couldn't sign up to file a bug report. Nope, still broken. APPLICATION ERROR #2800 Invalid form security token. Did you submit the form twice by accident? If the problem is reproducible in RHEL as well, you might as well report it directly at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ I don't have an RHEL to test I use Debian at home, but thanks for the link, since it is the same source according to Johnny below. I feel like it's pointless to ask why don't distributions upgrade within the minor revision number of the stable 2.2 series anyway. 2.2.3 is certainly not as stable as 2.2.11 and the API is supposed to be the same. Oh right the big picture. :-( 2.2.3 in CentOS/RHEL is not the same as 2.2.3 upstream... it's only the base release after which patches are applied. The name 2.2.3 is kept because potentially not all the upstream patches that went to 2.2.11 will go into CentOS/RHEL's 2.2.3, in theory only security updates are applied inside a minor OS release and RedHat might decide to skip some of the patches introduced between 2.2.3 and 2.2.11 if they believe they are not relevant to their product. Yeah it doesn't make sense to me why it's an advantage for RedHat to selectively backport patches instead of keeping up what the developers believe is a stable API for all callers. It's the same corporate cargo cult they were in when they made the mod_perl1 compatibility interface for Apache2... just made life harder for everyone in the end, if I'd wanted to use 1.3 handler API I would have installed 1.3... but that is ancient history. Second: from that link it seems that you have installed Perl modules directly from CPAN. Is that true? If you did and your system broke, well, you got to keep the pieces... It's known that CPAN modules and RPM modules do not play together well and will tend to break in upgrades. I suggest you install a CentOS 5.3 machine from scratch and try to reproduce the problem there. If it still happens, then report it to CentOS's bug tracker and/or to the mailing list. Yes I removed all of perl, made sure all libs were gone and started from scratch. On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, nate wrote: I don't think I'm able to help on this one but am curious how much of the components your working with are built from outside sources? I get the impression that your using quite a few modules directly from CPAN, are you using sqlite and mod_perl stuff from outside CentOS as well? I use httpd, httpd-devel, sqlite, sqlite-devel, mod_perl, mod_perl-devel, apr etc. from CentOS. DBD::SQLite is not available in yum so I make it with CPAN. libapreq2 (Apache2::Cookie/Apache2::Request) is not available in yum and does not run the tests right with the CPAN installer as root so I make it from source. On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Johnny Hughes wrote: Well ... here is what I can tell you: http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting/?sc_cid=3093 They do roll in bug fixes. I know it can be frustrating (it is for me to and I build this stuff) ... WRT the httpd package ... if you look at the RHEL and CentOS httpd SRPMs you will see that the change in the spec file is cosmetic and only controls CentOS being displayed instead of Red Hat as required by their trademark restrictions. Excellent info I will swim upstream thank you. Mark___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2
Yeah it doesn't make sense to me why it's an advantage for RedHat to selectively backport patches instead of keeping up what the developers believe is a stable API for all callers. It's the same corporate cargo cult they were in when they made the mod_perl1 compatibility interface for Apache2... just made life harder for everyone in the end, if I'd wanted to use 1.3 handler API I would have installed 1.3... but that is ancient history. Oh they give the 2.0.43 as an excuse at http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting/?sc_cid=3093 .. but what actually makes code stable is fixing the code, it's bollocks. Mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2
Mark Hedges wrote: With SELinux off, any script run by apache can access anything on the filesystem that can be read by the apache process user. Maybe that's not the best way to do it, but it confirms that SELinux is not causing DBD::MySQL to break under mod_perl in CentOS 5.3. I recall a previous post from you mentioning breakage, but I don't recall seeing any log events(e.g. permission denied messages or error traces etc) that might point to where the issue is. Can you provide this to help diagnose the issue? The original post I recall was this one: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-August/079995.html nate (All my systems ship with SELinux disabled) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] BUG in httpd 2.2.3-22.el5.centos.2
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, nate wrote: With SELinux off, any script run by apache can access anything on the filesystem that can be read by the apache process user. Maybe that's not the best way to do it, but it confirms that SELinux is not causing DBD::MySQL to break under mod_perl in CentOS 5.3. I recall a previous post from you mentioning breakage, but I don't recall seeing any log events(e.g. permission denied messages or error traces etc) that might point to where the issue is. Can you provide this to help diagnose the issue? The original post I recall was this one: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2009-August/079995.html Sorry I changed the subject. Here's what people have collected so far: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=47983 This is a message I posted when I signed up for the list, I thought it was ignored but it looks like it didn't post: On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Mark Hedges wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Fred Moyer wrote: Looks like d...@httpd is aware of the issue and will be releasing a fix. Haven't tried 5.3 centos but this sounds like they shipped a version of apache that caused this. http://www.mail-archive.com/d...@httpd.apache.org/msg44177.html Hello, it seems like httpd-devel 2.2.3 was patched with a bug from an upstream version. DBD::SQLite no longer works under mod_perl2, generating an error which is not an error upon any attempt to select something. (The same selects all work in a command-line script.) (https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=47983) I tried to sign up for a centos bug report username, but the signup form is buggy, the captcha never works Any chance someone can try to fix this? Thanks! --mark-- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
