Re: [CentOS] Back-up connection

2013-08-18 Thread Devin Reade
For remote power management (including when I'm on-site and want to do
it from my desk instead of the server room), I use PDUs (power distribution 
units) like
http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP7900
(which is also an excellent fencing device if you're doing clustering).
They may be expensive for a hobbiest, but for a business using tested
commercially available hardware configurations should be a no-brainer.

If you have an OOB (out-of-band) way of getting to that network, just make
sure that the PDU is reachable via OOB.  Now a days I tend to use a
connection via an alternate provider (so if you're using ADSL, maybe
there's a cable provider in the area as well).

If you want to go old school, you can hook a modem directly to the AP79xx
serial control port, however if you're going to deploy a modem I'd suggest
hooking it up to an internal server and then ssh/telnet to the PDU from that
server; that way the modem is able to help you in other network-not-available
cases.

If an OOB connection is not feasible, then your only other option is
what others described: Write a script to check connectivity to upstream
services (I'd use at least three instead of just one), and trigger the
PDU reset if they fail.  Perl and various CPAN modules make this easy
(although doing it this way would be my last choice compared to an
OOB connection).

Devin
-- 
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Re: [CentOS] Back-up connection

2013-08-16 Thread diegors
Have you trying with a power supply over lan?
(I don't know how is named in english, but maybe this can help you; 
http://http://www.google.com/images?client=ms-rimhl=esq=zapatilla+ipoe=UTF-8channel=browsersa=Xoi=image_result_groupei=4A4OUqS6EIioyAHAn4Awved=0CAcQsAQ
 )

Then some kind of magic ( :p ) with a bash script to reboot the adsl modem


Diego Sanchez

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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:33:01 
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Subject: [CentOS] Back-up connection

Some weeks ago, I asked if anyone had set up a backup scheme for a remote 
server.
By backup here, I mean an alternative arrangement that can be called upon
if eg the DSL connection to the remote machine fails.

I received one interesting reply:
==
At home, besides my fixed lines,
I have two gsm-modems, one low-speed (that came free of charge with one of 
my fixed lines),
the other is high speed, but pre-paid, normally off)
==
I meant to respond at the time, asking for further details,
but forgot, and now I have lost the original message.

So now I am posting again, asking if anyone has implemented any such 
arrangement.
If you have, I would be very interested to hear the details.

In my case, I spend time in two countries - Ireland and Italy -
and have servers in each place.
The problem in both places is that the ADSL modem sometimes goes off,
and the only way to turn it back on seems to be
to disconnect and re-connect the power supply.


-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland


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Re: [CentOS] Back-up connection

2013-08-16 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 01:33:01PM +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:

 Some weeks ago, I asked if anyone had set up a backup scheme for a remote 
 server.
 By backup here, I mean an alternative arrangement that can be called upon
 if eg the DSL connection to the remote machine fails.
 
 I received one interesting reply:
 ==
 At home, besides my fixed lines,
 I have two gsm-modems, one low-speed (that came free of charge with one of 
 my fixed lines),
 the other is high speed, but pre-paid, normally off)
 ==
 I meant to respond at the time, asking for further details,
 but forgot, and now I have lost the original message.

I think that the original thread was on us...@lists.fedoraproject.org:

http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-users/msg435811.html

In case the web/CLI interface of DSL modem/router is still
responsive, you can script a reboot from the server on the
LAN when fails the ping to a set of well-know always-up hosts.

I resuscitate this way a D-Link DSL-320B with (snippet):

# Set both international and national hosts.
hosts=www.google.com www.yahoo.com www.libero.it www.telecom.it

for h in $hosts; do
ping -c 2 $h  /dev/null 21  {# Success
retval=0
break
}

echo Ping failed for ${h}.
retval=1# Failure
done

test $retval -ne 0  {
echo -e \nResetting the ADSL modem.
phantomjs adsl-reboot.js
}

adsl-reboot.js is a Javascript script that logins onto the
modem and clicks the reset button.

You can also play with the -w option if your ping supports it.
The default timeout is 10 seconds or so.

Mihai
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Re: [CentOS] Back-up connection

2013-08-16 Thread Carl T. Miller
Timothy Murphy wrote:
 The problem in both places is that the ADSL modem sometimes goes off,
 and the only way to turn it back on seems to be
 to disconnect and re-connect the power supply.

I had a similar problem with a cable modem.  My relatively
inexpensive solution was to buy an X-10 Firecracker kit and
build bottlerocket from http://www.linuxha.com/bottlerocket/.

I then set up a cron job to test the Internet connection
every minute and reset the power whenever it failed.

c


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Re: [CentOS] Back-up connection

2013-08-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote:

 In case the web/CLI interface of DSL modem/router is still
 responsive, you can script a reboot from the server on the
 LAN when fails the ping to a set of well-know always-up hosts.

Thanks very much for the suggestion,
which I shall study with interest.
I'm actually using a D-Link router/modem in Italy
(where the problem most often arises)
so hopefully your method may work.

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland


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Re: [CentOS] Back-up connection

2013-08-16 Thread Ken godee
On 8/16/2013 4:33 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Some weeks ago, I asked if anyone had set up a backup scheme for a remote
 server.
 By backup here, I mean an alternative arrangement that can be called upon
 if eg the DSL connection to the remote machine fails.


Not sure if this is what you are thinking about but
I had similar problem back in the day with a router
that the only was I could get it back online was
to power cycle it.

Picked up one these on Ebay for like $30.00

http://www.baytech.net/products/showprod.php?prod=ds2-rpc

Was really handy, still have it just in case.


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Re: [CentOS] Back-up connection

2013-08-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 08/16/2013 01:33 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Some weeks ago, I asked if anyone had set up a backup scheme for a remote
 server.
 By backup here, I mean an alternative arrangement that can be called upon
 if eg the DSL connection to the remote machine fails.

 I received one interesting reply:
 ==
 At home, besides my fixed lines,
 I have two gsm-modems, one low-speed (that came free of charge with one of
 my fixed lines),
 the other is high speed, but pre-paid, normally off)
 ==
 I meant to respond at the time, asking for further details,
 but forgot, and now I have lost the original message.

 So now I am posting again, asking if anyone has implemented any such
 arrangement.
 If you have, I would be very interested to hear the details.

 In my case, I spend time in two countries - Ireland and Italy -
 and have servers in each place.
 The problem in both places is that the ADSL modem sometimes goes off,
 and the only way to turn it back on seems to be
 to disconnect and re-connect the power supply.



I do not know how to find what I am looking for on net, so I will just 
try to explain how to reset your ADSL or other device via phone.

You can build a device that will use either power from phone/mobile 
speaker to charge capacitor that will in turn disconnect the power to 
any kind of device (power cord).

Idea is to dial that phones number and keep it ringing for a certain 
period of time. Impulses from the speaker (constant (polyphonic) melody) 
will keep charged a electronic item/coil? that will brake the power 
circuit/cable of your device. I usually kept it ringing for 10 seconds 
and after I stop calling, coil? will loose charge and return to the 
original position again closing the circuit and allowing to device to 
power up.

I am no engineer and my technical English is horrible, but I think any 
decent electrician/TV repairman should understand what I am talking about.

It's cheap and dirty manual trick, but when push comes to shove you can 
dial that phone and reboot the ADSL modem in no time.



-- 
Ljubomir Ljubojevic
(Love is in the Air)
PL Computers
Serbia, Europe

StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant
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