Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 takes one second holding each keyboard key until it shows.

2014-08-28 Thread Valeri Galtsev

On Thu, August 28, 2014 3:30 am, Reinhard Dunkel wrote:
>
> On CentOS 5, I use command "su" to show a root shell. On CentOS 7, su no
> longer works and I use "ssh root@localhost" instead. (I have not tried
> SSH to access my CentOS systems remotely yet.)
>

I believe, [on CentOS 7] the user should be in the wheel group to
successfully use su command (when he gives root password to the contrary
to sudo command when one gives one's own password)

I hope, this helps.

Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 takes one second holding each keyboard key until it shows.

2014-08-28 Thread SilverTip257
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:32 AM, David Both  wrote:

> This has happened to me in the past. It is not an OS problem, it was for
> me a
> hardware issue. One or both of two things may be causing this problem.
>
> Some USB keyboards require more power than others. My USB keyboard would
> exhibit
> these same symptoms when plugged into a hub that was powered only by the
> computer itself or another hub. So my particular USB keyboard must be
> plugged
> into a hub that has its own power supply.
>

Definitely try another keyboard as others have suggested.
And another USB port ... maybe even try a PS2 keyboard if the mobo has one
and you have one of those keyboards handy.

On the topic of power...
It's possible that your power supply is failing.  You'll experience
sluggishness ... it might take a few minutes to shutdown or reboot where it
should only take a few seconds.  Or when it gets worse, the machine refuses
to turn on.

If you can run a rescue OS on the system and it still acts up, then its
most likely a hardware problem.
>From there you get to swap "known good" components to track down the
problem. ;-)



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 takes one second holding each keyboard key until it shows.

2014-08-28 Thread David Both
This has happened to me in the past. It is not an OS problem, it was for me a 
hardware issue. One or both of two things may be causing this problem.

Some USB keyboards require more power than others. My USB keyboard would 
exhibit 
these same symptoms when plugged into a hub that was powered only by the 
computer itself or another hub. So my particular USB keyboard must be plugged 
into a hub that has its own power supply.

Also, I have found that some USB keyboards are especially likely to exhibit 
these same symptoms when plugged into an unpowered USB 3 port.

Login remotely via SSH never exhibited any of these keyboard symptoms.

Perhaps this is the cause of your problem as well.


On 08/28/2014 04:30 AM, Reinhard Dunkel wrote:
> On 08/27/2014 06:07 PM, SilverTip257 wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Reinhard Dunkel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I used CentOS 5 for years. Suddenly, it takes one second holding a
>>> keyboard key until it shows on the screen:
>>>
>>>
>> Is this system accessible via SSH?
>> Does the behavior only happen when using the physical keyboard?
>>
>> Might it be out of physical memory (RAM) and swapping violently?
>> Disk thrashing of this sort can cause rather irritating delays.
>>
>> Or maybe a failing or failed drive?  (Assuming you could have a hardware or
>> software RAID setup)
> Does CentOS now only support user request tracking by email? I cannot
> find this thread on the CentOS web site...
>
> My computer has 4 GB Patriot memory - the maximum amount the motherboard
> allows. Using  command "top" shows less than one percent of CPU and
> memory are in use. The computer is idle. I am using a 1 TB WD disk for
> CentOS 5 and a 2 TB Seagate disk for CentOS 7. No RAID.
>
> On CentOS 5, I use command "su" to show a root shell. On CentOS 7, su no
> longer works and I use "ssh root@localhost" instead. (I have not tried
> SSH to access my CentOS systems remotely yet.)
>
> Concerning a previous comment: I did not modify the hardware likely
> causing this problem. I only have to switch between both disks -
> described above - to boot CentOS 5 or CentOS 7. My suspicion is "yum
> update" using numerous official and unofficial "repos" installed
> something causing this challenge. The login screen of CentOS 5 for user
> name and password still works fine. By the way, we develop software
> (NMRanalyst) and I try to keep a CentOS 5 system alive so we can test on
> it to claim our software is supported on it. When I don't get further
> suggestions, I likely re-install another disk with CentOS 5 - this time
> using only official repos.
>
> ThanX for all suggestions!
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 takes one second holding each keyboard key until it shows.

2014-08-28 Thread Reinhard Dunkel
On 08/27/2014 06:07 PM, SilverTip257 wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Reinhard Dunkel 
> wrote:
>
>> I used CentOS 5 for years. Suddenly, it takes one second holding a
>> keyboard key until it shows on the screen:
>>
>>
> Is this system accessible via SSH?
> Does the behavior only happen when using the physical keyboard?
>
> Might it be out of physical memory (RAM) and swapping violently?
> Disk thrashing of this sort can cause rather irritating delays.
>
> Or maybe a failing or failed drive?  (Assuming you could have a hardware or
> software RAID setup)
Does CentOS now only support user request tracking by email? I cannot 
find this thread on the CentOS web site...

My computer has 4 GB Patriot memory - the maximum amount the motherboard 
allows. Using  command "top" shows less than one percent of CPU and 
memory are in use. The computer is idle. I am using a 1 TB WD disk for 
CentOS 5 and a 2 TB Seagate disk for CentOS 7. No RAID.

On CentOS 5, I use command "su" to show a root shell. On CentOS 7, su no 
longer works and I use "ssh root@localhost" instead. (I have not tried 
SSH to access my CentOS systems remotely yet.)

Concerning a previous comment: I did not modify the hardware likely 
causing this problem. I only have to switch between both disks - 
described above - to boot CentOS 5 or CentOS 7. My suspicion is "yum 
update" using numerous official and unofficial "repos" installed 
something causing this challenge. The login screen of CentOS 5 for user 
name and password still works fine. By the way, we develop software 
(NMRanalyst) and I try to keep a CentOS 5 system alive so we can test on 
it to claim our software is supported on it. When I don't get further 
suggestions, I likely re-install another disk with CentOS 5 - this time 
using only official repos.

ThanX for all suggestions!
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 takes one second holding each keyboard key until it shows.

2014-08-27 Thread SilverTip257
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Reinhard Dunkel 
wrote:

> I used CentOS 5 for years. Suddenly, it takes one second holding a
> keyboard key until it shows on the screen:
>
>
Is this system accessible via SSH?
Does the behavior only happen when using the physical keyboard?

Might it be out of physical memory (RAM) and swapping violently?
Disk thrashing of this sort can cause rather irritating delays.

Or maybe a failing or failed drive?  (Assuming you could have a hardware or
software RAID setup).

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 takes one second holding each keyboard key until it shows.

2014-08-27 Thread mark
On 08/26/14 22:54, Reinhard Dunkel wrote:
> I used CentOS 5 for years. Suddenly, it takes one second holding a
> keyboard key until it shows on the screen:

Dumb question: have you tried a second keyboard?

mark, who tries not to drink over the keyboard
>
> # uname -a
> Linux nitrogen 2.6.18-371.11.1.el5PAE #1 SMP Wed Jul 23 15:54:19 EDT
> 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> # xset -q
> Keyboard Control:
> auto repeat:  offkey click percent:  50LED mask:  
> auto repeat delay:  660repeat rate:  25
> auto repeating keys:  00ffdbbf
>   fadfffdfffdfe5ef
>   
>   
> bell percent:  100bell pitch:  800bell duration:  100
> Pointer Control:
> acceleration:  20/10threshold:  2
> Screen Saver:
> prefer blanking:  yesallow exposures:  yes
> timeout:  0cycle:  600
> Colors:
> default colormap:  0x20BlackPixel:  0WhitePixel:  16777215
> Font Path:
> unix/:7100,built-ins
> Bug Mode: compatibility mode is enabled
> DPMS (Energy Star):
> Standby: 0Suspend: 1800Off: 1800
> DPMS is Enabled
> Monitor is On
> Font cache:
> Server does not have the FontCache Extension
> File paths:
> Config file:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> Modules path: /usr/lib/xorg/modules
> Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>
> I copied the CentOS 5 /etc/X11/xorg.conf to CentOS 7 (on the same
> computer) and rebooted - no effect. I copied the CentOS 7
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf to CentOS 5 and rebooted - no
> effect. I tried different CentOS 5 xset settings, I tried an IBM Soft
> Touch and a Logitech keyboard using different cabeling. What might
> resolve this new one second delay for each CentOS 5 keyboard key? What
> might have caused it?
>
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 takes one second holding each keyboard key until it shows.

2014-08-27 Thread Lars Hecking

> I copied the CentOS 5 /etc/X11/xorg.conf to CentOS 7 (on the same 
> computer) and rebooted - no effect. I copied the CentOS 7 
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf to CentOS 5 and rebooted - no 
> effect. I tried different CentOS 5 xset settings, I tried an IBM Soft 
> Touch and a Logitech keyboard using different cabeling. What might 
> resolve this new one second delay for each CentOS 5 keyboard key? What 
> might have caused it?

 Did you change or update any hardware recently? This might be a bit
 far-fetched, but I observed behaviour like this when connecting a new
 monitor to a machine running CentOS5 through DVI. I don't recall the
 details, but the monitor created some kind of interrupt issue that the
 CentOS5 kernel (5.4 - 2.6.18-164.15.1.el5) couldn't handle. Symptoms
 were slow-responding keyboard and jerky mouse.

 If it's something like this, you should see it in the logs.

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