Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.1 Core 2 Duo Install freezes

2008-02-08 Thread John R Pierce

Ken Price wrote:

ICH7R + Intel® 82573

Memory:
Crucial 512Mb, 1Gb, 2Gb modules matched to above MB.


according to Intel, this chipset supports DDR2 667Mhz memory only. if
you're using two dimms they should be matched pairs for dual channel
operation?


Yes.  I'm using matched pairs of DDR2 667Mhz.  Hmmm.  Actually, the 
Celeron's are using DDR2 533Mhz ... according to Crucial these work in 
this MB.  Guess that's one more thing to try with the dual core 
processors.


you might just try running the 667Mhz ram at 533Mhz if there's jumpers 
or a bios setting.  if this works, and htere are fine tuning settings 
for the ram, you might try the original 667 speed only add a clock to 
the CAS precharge (again, ift he BIOS has advanced manual memory timing 
options, some boards do, some don't)


btw, have you tried running memtest86 on these systems ?



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.1 Core 2 Duo Install freezes

2008-02-08 Thread Ken Price

One more note, which explains why I posted on the CentOS list:
I have no problems installing Fedora 8, or Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10 on these  
boxes.  I haven't tried CentOS4.6, but that's not an option.  I need  
CentOS 5.X.


I've been using CentOS from the beginning of the project.  I won't  
consider another distro in production systems.


-Ken

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Alrighty.  I'm having a hell of a time and I need help.  I'll try to
give as much information as possible.

--
HARDWARE
--
MB:
Supermicro PDSBM-LN2+
Intel 946GZ
ICH7R + Intel® 82573

Memory:
Crucial 512Mb, 1Gb, 2Gb modules matched to above MB.

Processors:
Intel Celeron 420 Conroe-L, 1.6GHz 512KB 64-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo E6320, 1.86Ghz 4Mb 64-bit
Intel Pentium E2140 Allendale (Dual Core), 1.6GHz 1M 64-bit

Hard Disks:
Various Western Digital and Seagate SATA Drives
--

--
BIOS (Rev 1.0 as well as Rev 1.0a)
--
Disabled Native Mode
Disabled Native Mode with ACPI
Enabled SATA Native Mode

--
KERNEL PARAMS (singularly and combination)
--
acpi=off, pci=nommconf, pci=bios, nohz=off, noapic, nolapic,
pci=routeirq, maxcpus=1
--

ATA_PIIX loads at startup, sometimes ACPI depending on my BIOS
settings.  Always after verifying dependencies, and typically during
the disk format process, the installation freezes.  I get a "kernel
panic - not syncing" in text mode.  Single disks, dual disks, LVM,
no-LVM, software RAID, even when disks are on a Promise SATA300-TX4.
The single-core Celeron processors work fine, but none of the dual core
processors work.  I'm using 5 sets of hardware, so bad hardware is
unlikely.  I'm stumped.

Anyone out there with similar problems and/or workarounds?  Any ideas?

-Ken


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.1 Core 2 Duo Install freezes

2008-02-08 Thread Ken Price

ICH7R + Intel® 82573

Memory:
Crucial 512Mb, 1Gb, 2Gb modules matched to above MB.


according to Intel, this chipset supports DDR2 667Mhz memory only. if
you're using two dimms they should be matched pairs for dual channel
operation?


Yes.  I'm using matched pairs of DDR2 667Mhz.  Hmmm.  Actually, the  
Celeron's are using DDR2 533Mhz ... according to Crucial these work in  
this MB.  Guess that's one more thing to try with the dual core  
processors.




Processors:
Intel Celeron 420 Conroe-L, 1.6GHz 512KB 64-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo E6320, 1.86Ghz 4Mb 64-bit

this is a 1066Mhz FSB CPU, not compatible with that chipset at least
according to Intel.

actually, reading the Intel datasheet, it looks like the 946 chipsets
were intended strictly as P4 chipsets, and Core2Duo support was an
afterthought.

I'd check with SuperMicro for more help on this.



http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/946/PDSBM-LN2+.cfm


Intel Pentium E2140 Allendale (Dual Core), 1.6GHz 1M 64-bit


this is a 800Mhz FSB CPU, it /should/ work.


Yes, but unfortunately has the exact same issues as the 1066Mhz Core2Duo's.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.1 Core 2 Duo Install freezes

2008-02-08 Thread Ken Price



Ken Price wrote:


Anyone out there with similar problems and/or workarounds?  Any ideas?


install using a serial console, and capture the entire kernel panic
from the console if you can. Have you tried any disk controllers other
than the promise ?

For me, if hardware SATA raid, it's 3Ware or nothing. I haven't ever
really noticed good things said about other SATA raid cards.



This is using the onboard SATA, or the promise SATA controller (not a  
RAID controller).  Yeah, I've had problems capturing the entire panic.  
 I'll try via a terminal on monday morning.


I agree with the 3ware comment.  My high-end MySQL and NFS boxes have  
8-port 3Ware SATA RAID.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.1 Core 2 Duo Install freezes

2008-02-08 Thread John R Pierce

Ken Price wrote:
Alrighty.  I'm having a hell of a time and I need help.  I'll try to 
give as much information as possible.

...
Supermicro PDSBM-LN2+
Intel 946GZ


Intel says the 'value-oriented' 946PL/GZ chipsets are 800/666Mhz FSB 
only, no support for 1066Mhz FSB. See 
http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/946PL_946GZ/index.htm


Oddly, Supermicro claims they do support 1066.


ICH7R + Intel® 82573

Memory:
Crucial 512Mb, 1Gb, 2Gb modules matched to above MB.


according to Intel, this chipset supports DDR2 667Mhz memory only. if 
you're using two dimms they should be matched pairs for dual channel 
operation?




Processors:
Intel Celeron 420 Conroe-L, 1.6GHz 512KB 64-bit
Intel Core 2 Duo E6320, 1.86Ghz 4Mb 64-bit
this is a 1066Mhz FSB CPU, not compatible with that chipset at least 
according to Intel.


actually, reading the Intel datasheet, it looks like the 946 chipsets 
were intended strictly as P4 chipsets, and Core2Duo support was an 
afterthought.


I'd check with SuperMicro for more help on this.


Intel Pentium E2140 Allendale (Dual Core), 1.6GHz 1M 64-bit


this is a 800Mhz FSB CPU, it /should/ work.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.1 Core 2 Duo Install freezes

2008-02-08 Thread nate
Ken Price wrote:

> Anyone out there with similar problems and/or workarounds?  Any ideas?

install using a serial console, and capture the entire kernel panic
from the console if you can. Have you tried any disk controllers other
than the promise ?

For me, if hardware SATA raid, it's 3Ware or nothing. I haven't ever
really noticed good things said about other SATA raid cards.

nate

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