Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-11-02 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 10:00 PM, bax bax  wrote:
> Hi I have a lenovo w530 laptop with integrated camera.  with the new kernel 
> 2.6.32-504.el6.x86_64 webcam dont' works on
> /var/log/messages i can see:  localhost kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to submit 
> URB 0 (-28).
> If I boot with old kernels webcam is ok can I fix it? can someone file a bug 
> report? thanks

It will be best if _you_ can file a bug report at http://bugs.centos.org .

If the issue is caused by the bug reported in:

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1221896

then, this is a regression and was fixed in a later kernel.

What you can do (in addition to filing a bug report) is to try and
test ELRepo's kernel-ml ( http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-ml ). If that
kernel works, this will be your interim solution.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-11-02 Thread Ron Yorston
bax bax wrote:
>Hi I have a lenovo w530 laptop with integrated camera.  with the new
>kernel 2.6.32-504.el6.x86_64 webcam dont' works on /var/log/messages
>i can see:  localhost kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to submit URB 0 (-28).
>If I boot with old kernels webcam is ok can I fix it? can someone file
>a bug report? thanks

I'm seeing the same problem on three different machines.  The last kernel
that works is 2.6.32-431.23.3.  I've raised a bug report with Red Hat:

   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158988

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-11-02 Thread bax bax
Thanks Ron

> From: r...@tigress.co.uk
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 07:50:06 +
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem
> 
> bax bax wrote:
> >Hi I have a lenovo w530 laptop with integrated camera.  with the new
> >kernel 2.6.32-504.el6.x86_64 webcam dont' works on /var/log/messages
> >i can see:  localhost kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to submit URB 0 (-28).
> >If I boot with old kernels webcam is ok can I fix it? can someone file
> >a bug report? thanks
> 
> I'm seeing the same problem on three different machines.  The last kernel
> that works is 2.6.32-431.23.3.  I've raised a bug report with Red Hat:
> 
>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158988
> 
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-11-02 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Ron Yorston  wrote:
> bax bax wrote:
>>Hi I have a lenovo w530 laptop with integrated camera.  with the new
>>kernel 2.6.32-504.el6.x86_64 webcam dont' works on /var/log/messages
>>i can see:  localhost kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to submit URB 0 (-28).
>>If I boot with old kernels webcam is ok can I fix it? can someone file
>>a bug report? thanks
>
> I'm seeing the same problem on three different machines.  The last kernel
> that works is 2.6.32-431.23.3.  I've raised a bug report with Red Hat:
>
>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158988
>
> Ron

Because the RH BZ is not open to the public, could you update the
status here with any progress?

In the meantime, I will work on the bug report submitted to the CentOS
bug tracker:

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7815

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-11-03 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Akemi Yagi  wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Ron Yorston  wrote:
>> bax bax wrote:
>>>Hi I have a lenovo w530 laptop with integrated camera.  with the new
>>>kernel 2.6.32-504.el6.x86_64 webcam dont' works on /var/log/messages
>>>i can see:  localhost kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to submit URB 0 (-28).
>>>If I boot with old kernels webcam is ok can I fix it? can someone file
>>>a bug report? thanks
>>
>> I'm seeing the same problem on three different machines.  The last kernel
>> that works is 2.6.32-431.23.3.  I've raised a bug report with Red Hat:
>>
>>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158988
>>
>> Ron
>
> Because the RH BZ is not open to the public, could you update the
> status here with any progress?
>
> In the meantime, I will work on the bug report submitted to the CentOS
> bug tracker:
>
> http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7815

Problem resolved. Please see the above bug report for details.
Briefly, the issue was caused by a regression in the -504 kernel.
There is a known patch for that.

Perhaps, Ron can update the RH bugzilla with this info so that the
upstream kernel gets fixed.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-11-03 Thread Ron Yorston
Akemi Yagi wrote:
>Perhaps, Ron can update the RH bugzilla with this info so that the
>upstream kernel gets fixed.

I've added a reference to the CentOS bug in RH bugzilla.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-11-04 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 11/02/14 01:00, bax bax wrote:
> Hi I have a lenovo w530 laptop with integrated camera.  with the new kernel 
> 2.6.32-504.el6.x86_64 webcam dont' works on
> /var/log/messages i can see:  localhost kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to submit 
> URB 0 (-28).
> If I boot with old kernels webcam is ok can I fix it? can someone file a bug 
> report? thanks
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I've think got the same problem.  I would boot into the previous kernel
but, because I've got the Nvidea video driver, my X server will not run
with the old kernel so I can't tell you if my web cam works with the old
kernel or not.  I know it used to work.

Just to amplify this report:

usb 1-1: new high speed USB device number 6 using ehci_hcd
usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=1e4e, idProduct=0102
usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 1-1: Product: USB2.0 Camera
usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Etron Technology, Inc.
usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0 Camera (1e4e:0102)
uvcvideo: UVC non compliance - GET_DEF(PROBE) not supported. Enabling
workaround.
input: USB2.0 Camera as
/devices/pci:00/:00:10.4/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input6

Do we have any idea when the patch referred to by Akemi 11/03/14 09:45
will be applied and the patched kernel will be released?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-11-05 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:

> I've think got the same problem.  I would boot into the previous kernel
> but, because I've got the Nvidea video driver, my X server will not run
> with the old kernel so I can't tell you if my web cam works with the old
> kernel or not.  I know it used to work.

I suggest you use kmod-nvidia from ELRepo. Then you will be able to
boot the old kernel. Also, you'd not have to reinstall the Nvidia
driver for each kernel update.

> Do we have any idea when the patch referred to by Akemi 11/03/14 09:45
> will be applied and the patched kernel will be released?

The official centosplus kernel with the patch will be released upon
the next kernel update (hopefully very soon). In the meantime, you can
install the test plus kernel offered in the centos bug tracker.

As for the distro centos kernel, because it is a rebuild of the RHEL
kernel, the patch must be applied upstream first. Ron will be updating
the status if/when progress is made in the bugzilla report he filed.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-11-29 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 11/05/14 19:13, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Mark LaPierre  wrote:
> 
>> I've think got the same problem.  I would boot into the previous kernel
>> but, because I've got the Nvidea video driver, my X server will not run
>> with the old kernel so I can't tell you if my web cam works with the old
>> kernel or not.  I know it used to work.
> 
> I suggest you use kmod-nvidia from ELRepo. Then you will be able to
> boot the old kernel. Also, you'd not have to reinstall the Nvidia
> driver for each kernel update.
> 

You mean like this?
[mlapier@mushroom ~]$ rpm -qa | grep -i nvid
kmod-nvidia-304xx-304.123-3.el6.elrepo.i686
nvidia-x11-drv-304xx-304.123-1.el6.elrepo.i686
nvidia-detect-340.58-1.el6.elrepo.i686

Doesn't work.  It always worked before the 6.6 update when there was a
new kernel but it didn't work with the new 6.6 kernel and it won't work
with the old kernel after the 6.6 update.

>> Do we have any idea when the patch referred to by Akemi 11/03/14 09:45
>> will be applied and the patched kernel will be released?
> 
> The official centosplus kernel with the patch will be released upon
> the next kernel update (hopefully very soon). In the meantime, you can
> install the test plus kernel offered in the centos bug tracker.
> 
> As for the distro centos kernel, because it is a rebuild of the RHEL
> kernel, the patch must be applied upstream first. Ron will be updating
> the status if/when progress is made in the bugzilla report he filed.
> 
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-12-12 Thread Phil Wyett
On Fri, 2014-12-12 at 09:08 +, Ron Yorston wrote:
> Last month we discussed the problems with webcams in CentOS 6 and I
> raised Bugzilla #1158988 with Red Hat.  This bug has now been declared
> a duplicate of 1145805.  Unfortunately I'm unable to access that report
> so although I know Red Hat are looking into the matter I don't know
> what they're doing.
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Hi,

Could you be more specific about your issue? Does the webcam get
detected? if you use 'cheese' do you get any errors in say 'dmesg'?

There has been a webcam issue of late that seems to trace back to a
regression with the latest kernels. This was fixed in the centos plus
kernel, but there is a wait to see what Red Hat will do. This is a
kernel issue and all kernel bugs are locked from public view bar Red Hat
people and the reporter.

Issue seen and fixed in plus kernel:

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7815

Regards

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-12-12 Thread Ron Yorston
Phil Wyett  wrote:
>Could you be more specific about your issue? Does the webcam get
>detected? if you use 'cheese' do you get any errors in say 'dmesg'?
>
>There has been a webcam issue of late that seems to trace back to a
>regression with the latest kernels. This was fixed in the centos plus
>kernel, but there is a wait to see what Red Hat will do. This is a
>kernel issue and all kernel bugs are locked from public view bar Red Hat
>people and the reporter.
>
>Issue seen and fixed in plus kernel:
>
>http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7815

I know all that:  it was covered in the thread last month, where I
promised to report any progress on the Red Hat bug.

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-12-12 Thread Phil Wyett
On Fri, 2014-12-12 at 09:56 +, Ron Yorston wrote:
> Phil Wyett  wrote:
> >Could you be more specific about your issue? Does the webcam get
> >detected? if you use 'cheese' do you get any errors in say 'dmesg'?
> >
> >There has been a webcam issue of late that seems to trace back to a
> >regression with the latest kernels. This was fixed in the centos plus
> >kernel, but there is a wait to see what Red Hat will do. This is a
> >kernel issue and all kernel bugs are locked from public view bar Red Hat
> >people and the reporter.
> >
> >Issue seen and fixed in plus kernel:
> >
> >http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7815
> 
> I know all that:  it was covered in the thread last month, where I
> promised to report any progress on the Red Hat bug.
> 
> I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.
> 
> Ron

If you want progress/info from the Red Hat side, you could always email
the assignee on your bug report and see if that gets a response.

Regards

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-12-12 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Phil Wyett
 wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-12-12 at 09:56 +, Ron Yorston wrote:

>> I know all that:  it was covered in the thread last month, where I
>> promised to report any progress on the Red Hat bug.
>>
>> I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.
>>
>> Ron
>
> If you want progress/info from the Red Hat side, you could always email
> the assignee on your bug report and see if that gets a response.

You can also try asking in your own Bugzilla #1158988 if they can add
your email to the CC list of the private one. Sometime (but not all
the time) they agree to do this for the original submitter.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-12-12 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 12/12/14 04:08, Ron Yorston wrote:
> Last month we discussed the problems with webcams in CentOS 6 and I
> raised Bugzilla #1158988 with Red Hat.  This bug has now been declared
> a duplicate of 1145805.  Unfortunately I'm unable to access that report
> so although I know Red Hat are looking into the matter I don't know
> what they're doing.
> 
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Yes, I reported this same issue a couple of weeks ago.

 Start Forwarded Message 
Subject: USB Camera Not Working after 6.6 update
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:19:44 -0500
From: Mark LaPierre 
To: Mail List CentOS Users , Mark LaPierre


Hey all,

The 6.5 to 6.6 update broke several items that I've discussed here.
Some I have solved, others I had differed.  Now I want to talk about my
web cam issues.  I have two web cams.  This is what dmesg has to say
when I plug them in and try to access them with Cheese Webcam Booth:

# Unplugged dev 2 camera
usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 2
# Plugged in dev 4 camera
usb 1-1: new high speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd
usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=1e4e, idProduct=0102
usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 1-1: Product: USB2.0 Camera
usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Etron Technology, Inc.
usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0 Camera (1e4e:0102)
uvcvideo: UVC non compliance - GET_DEF(PROBE) not supported. Enabling
workaround.
input: USB2.0 Camera as
/devices/pci:00/:00:10.4/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input6
# Attempted to connect from Cheese Webcam Booth.  This camera has no
pilot light but fails to connect just like the other one.
uvcvideo: Failed to submit URB 0 (-28).

# Unplugged dev 4 camera
usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 4
# Plugged in dev 2 camera
usb 1-1: new high speed USB device number 5 using ehci_hcd
usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0ac8, idProduct=3420
usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 1-1: Product: Venus USB2.0 Camera
usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Vimicro Corp.
usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Venus USB2.0 Camera (0ac8:3420)
input: Venus USB2.0 Camera as
/devices/pci:00/:00:10.4/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input7
# Attempted to connect from Cheese Webcam Booth.  This camera has a
pilot light that lights when I try to connect then goes out after a
second of so.
uvcvideo: Failed to submit URB 0 (-28).

Anyone want to take a whack at solving this issue?

CentOS release 6.6 (Final)

Linux mushroom.patch 2.6.32-504.1.3.el6.i686 #1 SMP Tue Nov 11 16:30:09
UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
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Well here's an update.  My kids gave me enough shiny bits for Christmas
so that I could assemble my new eight core machine to the point where I
could start it up.  No, it's not finished yet, but it's running like a
scalded cat.

I made a clean new 64 bit install of 6.6 from the install DVD and then
ran yum update.  The web cam does not work with the new 64 bit machine
either.  I'm looking forward to the day when the kernel patch arrives.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2014-12-17 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 12/12/14 21:28, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> On 12/12/14 04:08, Ron Yorston wrote:
>> Last month we discussed the problems with webcams in CentOS 6 and I
>> raised Bugzilla #1158988 with Red Hat.  This bug has now been declared
>> a duplicate of 1145805.  Unfortunately I'm unable to access that report
>> so although I know Red Hat are looking into the matter I don't know
>> what they're doing.
>>
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>
>  Start Forwarded Message 
> Subject: USB Camera Not Working after 6.6 update
> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:19:44 -0500
> From: Mark LaPierre 
> To: Mail List CentOS Users , Mark LaPierre
> 
>
> Hey all,
>
> The 6.5 to 6.6 update broke several items that I've discussed here.
> Some I have solved, others I had differed.  Now I want to talk about my
> web cam issues.  I have two web cams.  This is what dmesg has to say
> when I plug them in and try to access them with Cheese Webcam Booth:
>
> # Unplugged dev 2 camera
> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 2
> # Plugged in dev 4 camera
> usb 1-1: new high speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd
> usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=1e4e, idProduct=0102
> usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> usb 1-1: Product: USB2.0 Camera
> usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Etron Technology, Inc.
> usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0 Camera (1e4e:0102)
> uvcvideo: UVC non compliance - GET_DEF(PROBE) not supported. Enabling
> workaround.
> input: USB2.0 Camera as
> /devices/pci:00/:00:10.4/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input6
> # Attempted to connect from Cheese Webcam Booth.  This camera has no
> pilot light but fails to connect just like the other one.
> uvcvideo: Failed to submit URB 0 (-28).
>
> # Unplugged dev 4 camera
> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 4
> # Plugged in dev 2 camera
> usb 1-1: new high speed USB device number 5 using ehci_hcd
> usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0ac8, idProduct=3420
> usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> usb 1-1: Product: Venus USB2.0 Camera
> usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Vimicro Corp.
> usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Venus USB2.0 Camera (0ac8:3420)
> input: Venus USB2.0 Camera as
> /devices/pci:00/:00:10.4/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input7
> # Attempted to connect from Cheese Webcam Booth.  This camera has a
> pilot light that lights when I try to connect then goes out after a
> second of so.
> uvcvideo: Failed to submit URB 0 (-28).
>
> Anyone want to take a whack at solving this issue?
>
> CentOS release 6.6 (Final)
>
> Linux mushroom.patch 2.6.32-504.1.3.el6.i686 #1 SMP Tue Nov 11 16:30:09
> UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>  End Forwarded Message 
>
> Well here's an update.  My kids gave me enough shiny bits for Christmas
> so that I could assemble my new eight core machine to the point where I
> could start it up.  No, it's not finished yet, but it's running like a
> scalded cat.
>
> I made a clean new 64 bit install of 6.6 from the install DVD and then
> ran yum update.  The web cam does not work with the new 64 bit machine
> either.  I'm looking forward to the day when the kernel patch arrives.
>

Oh look, new kernel:

Linux mushroom.patch 2.6.32-504.3.3.el6.i686 #1 SMP Tue Dec 16 22:55:44
UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Maybe one of my web cams will work now, NOT!  Still waiting for the
kernel patch that will fix the web cam defect.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.6: Webcam problem

2015-01-29 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 12/12/14 04:08, Ron Yorston wrote:
> Last month we discussed the problems with webcams in CentOS 6 and I
> raised Bugzilla #1158988 with Red Hat.  This bug has now been declared
> a duplicate of 1145805.  Unfortunately I'm unable to access that report
> so although I know Red Hat are looking into the matter I don't know
> what they're doing.
> 
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I know what they are doing.

New kernel 2.6.32-504.8.1.el6.i686 in the update packages last night.
My web camera works again! YEA! YEA! YEA!  First my 64 bit machine got
it's update and the camera started working again.  Then the 32 bit
machine got it's update later in the evening and the camera started
working again there too.

Thank you to all the CentOS packagers for all the great work that you do.

It's sad that it took almost three months for this to get fixed.

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