Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-08 Thread David Lemcoe
So now I know to use the GMail app for Blackberry. Nice to know.

On 4/8/09, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
> David Lemcoe wrote:
>> So wait, how do I fix my Blackberry for mailing lists? Does this
>> method work? I'm using the GMAIL app for Blackberry.
>>
>
> as Kai already pointed out - it has the in-reply-to headers, so thats
> one issue fixed. Would still be nice if you could trim your posts.
>
> - KB
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
David Lemcoe wrote:
> So wait, how do I fix my Blackberry for mailing lists? Does this
> method work? I'm using the GMAIL app for Blackberry.
> 

as Kai already pointed out - it has the in-reply-to headers, so thats 
one issue fixed. Would still be nice if you could trim your posts.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-08 Thread RedShift
David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
> Let me clarify. When I install the web server packages on a Cent install.

You have to do that yourself. You know, do what a sysadmin does? :-)


Glenn


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> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, David M Lemcoe Jr.  wrote:
>> Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
>> CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
>> port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
>> error because I can ping but not http request.
>>
>> Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
> 
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-08 Thread Kai Schaetzl
David Lemcoe wrote on Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:12:33 -0400:

> So wait, how do I fix my Blackberry for mailing lists? Does this
> method work? I'm using the GMAIL app for Blackberry.

Yes, this message contains in-reply-to/references. The others did not. 
Which means that there is no threading available for them.

Kai

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread David Lemcoe
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Bill Campbell  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 07, 2009, David Lemcoe wrote:
> >Thank you for the reply. I think it's "server", and even though I
> >select that, it is still blocked.
> >
> >I mentioned being able to ping it because I thought it was a NIC
> >problem or something, because apache didn't work when I started it.
>
> What does ``lsof -n -i:80'' show?  Perhaps the server is running,
> but listening only on 127.0.0.1, localhost?

No I figured it out, thank you!
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009, David Lemcoe wrote:
>Thank you for the reply. I think it's "server", and even though I
>select that, it is still blocked.
>
>I mentioned being able to ping it because I thought it was a NIC
>problem or something, because apache didn't work when I started it.

What does ``lsof -n -i:80'' show?  Perhaps the server is running,
but listening only on 127.0.0.1, localhost?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread David Lemcoe
Thank you for the reply. I think it's "server", and even though I
select that, it is still blocked.

I mentioned being able to ping it because I thought it was a NIC
problem or something, because apache didn't work when I started it.

Thanks agin for the reply!

On 4/7/09, Michael A. Peters  wrote:
> David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
>> Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've
>> installed CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is
>> blocking inbound port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a
>> non-OS firewall error because I can ping but not http request.
>>
>> Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?
>
> Very few ports are open out of the box.
> I'm not sure, but I think if you choose the webserver (or is it server
> ??) option at install it might have port 80 open.
>
> Port 22 is open for ssh. I think 631 (cups) is as well, but not positive.
>
> You can configure the firewall with system-config-securitylevel-tui
> after install (it runs during firstboot as well) where you can easily
> tell it to turn on port 80 (and/or 443) for web services.
>
> pinging a box has nothing to do with ports are blocked, open, or closed.
> You can filter pings but I don't believe the firewall does by default.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Michael A. Peters
David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
> Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
> CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
> port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
> error because I can ping but not http request. 
> 
> Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

Very few ports are open out of the box.
I'm not sure, but I think if you choose the webserver (or is it server 
??) option at install it might have port 80 open.

Port 22 is open for ssh. I think 631 (cups) is as well, but not positive.

You can configure the firewall with system-config-securitylevel-tui 
after install (it runs during firstboot as well) where you can easily 
tell it to turn on port 80 (and/or 443) for web services.

pinging a box has nothing to do with ports are blocked, open, or closed.
You can filter pings but I don't believe the firewall does by default.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Brian Mathis
CentOS does not open ports like that when you install a package,
that's something you have to do yourself.

I recently heard a podcast (http://twit.tv/floss62) talking about eBox
which sounded like a management platform that does something like what
you are looking for.



On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:02 PM, David M Lemcoe Jr.  wrote:
> Let me clarify. When I install the web server packages on a Cent install.
>
>
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> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, David M Lemcoe Jr.  wrote:
>> Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
>> CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
>> port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
>> error because I can ping but not http request.
>>
>> Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread David Lemcoe
So wait, how do I fix my Blackberry for mailing lists? Does this
method work? I'm using the GMAIL app for Blackberry.

On 4/7/09, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
> David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
>> Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've
>> installed CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is
>> blocking inbound port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a
>> non-OS firewall error because I can ping but not http request.
>>
> post install reboot, you would normally get a text/graphical UI that
> lets you setup firewall policy, selinux policy amongst other things.
> Just add port 80 to the list of ports you'd want open on all interfaces.
>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> its still broken.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Jeremiah Heller
On 7 Apr 2009, at 15:57, David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:

> by default, iptables is blocking inbound port 80 requests. This  
> leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall error because I  
> can ping but not http request.
>
> Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

it's a secure default.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 22:57 +, David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
> Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
> CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
> port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
> error because I can ping but not http request. 
> 
> Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?

run program...

system-config-securitylevel

and you can select various well-known ports or just add your own 'lesser
known' port numbers.

Craig


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
David M Lemcoe Jr. wrote:
> Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
> CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
> port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
> error because I can ping but not http request. 
> 
post install reboot, you would normally get a text/graphical UI that 
lets you setup firewall policy, selinux policy amongst other things. 
Just add port 80 to the list of ports you'd want open on all interfaces.

> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

its still broken.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread David M Lemcoe Jr.
Let me clarify. When I install the web server packages on a Cent install.
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On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, David M Lemcoe Jr.  wrote:
> Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
> CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
> port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
> error because I can ping but not http request.
>
> Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?
>
> Thanks,
> David


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS automatically blocks port 80 out-of-the-box

2009-04-07 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:57 PM, David M Lemcoe Jr.  wrote:
> Maybe I just haven't installed enough distros, but the times I've installed 
> CentOS, I've had to remember that by default, iptables is blocking inbound 
> port 80 requests. This leads me to believe that I have a non-OS firewall 
> error because I can ping but not http request.
>
> Is there a particular reason for this? Or is it a fail on my end?
>
> Thanks,
> David


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