Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-18 Thread Anthony K

On 19/11/14 12:18, SilverTip257 wrote:

@Anthony,
Thanks for sharing your examples.
I've gotten spoiled by using the "ip addr show" shortcut of "ip a s".  So
much so that I try to do "ip l s" for "ip link show", which doesn't work.
Given the error message: Not enough information: "dev" argument is
required. I figure ip tools thinks I'm attempting to set something on the
interface.  Anyhow, your "ip l l" shortcut appears (see my manpage comment
below) to evaluate to "ip link list", which is awesome!  Shortcuts for the
win.

On a CentOS 6.6 system per the ip manpage, it seems that "list" is
undocumented for link and addr.

(Certainly correct me if I'm wrong ... I did find a TLDP page with an
example of "ip link list", so it's known by some.)


Thanks Mike.

I use Ubuntu on the laptop and in the manpage for the ip command it has 
the following:


COMMAND
   ...*As a rule, it is possible to add,**
**   delete and **show (or list )**objects, but some objects do not 
allow all**

**   of these operations or have some additional commands.* ...

Seems to be vaguely documented - I can see how *(or list )* part can be 
misleading as you might think they are just saying that show 
_will_list_  and not necessary that *list* can be substituted for *show* 
- it's all in the wording!


Oddly, the man page for ip (iproute-2.6.18-13.el5) on CentOS 5 is way 
more comprehensive (it has way more examples on where list can be used) 
than that on Ubuntu 14.04.1 with iproute-3.12.0-2! But then, Ubuntu has 
a man page for each ip object:


$ man ip-
ip-address  ip-monitor  ip-ntable   ip-tunnel
ip-addrlabelip-mroute   ip-routeip-xfrm
ip-l2tp ip-neighbourip-rule
ip-link ip-netconf  ip-tcp_metrics
ip-maddress ip-netnsip-token


Cheers,
ak.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-18 Thread SilverTip257
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Anthony K  wrote:

> On 16/11/14 11:16, david wrote:
>
>> Folks:
>> I'm at a loss of what to do next, namely
>>  - How do I tell Centos that there's a NIC, and how do I configure it?
>>
>> PS:  There is no GUI, and the command line display is very tiny.
>>
>> Guidance would be appreciated.
>>
>
Anthony K's suggestions will not be persistent (won't last a
shutdown/reboot).  But they will be enough to regain network access and SSH
into the system from the comfort of your workstation/laptop.


>
> 1. Get list of interfaces that are up:
> ip l l
>
> Then load the module:
> modprobe forcedeth
>

@Anthony,
Thanks for sharing your examples.
I've gotten spoiled by using the "ip addr show" shortcut of "ip a s".  So
much so that I try to do "ip l s" for "ip link show", which doesn't work.
Given the error message: Not enough information: "dev" argument is
required. I figure ip tools thinks I'm attempting to set something on the
interface.  Anyhow, your "ip l l" shortcut appears (see my manpage comment
below) to evaluate to "ip link list", which is awesome!  Shortcuts for the
win.

On a CentOS 6.6 system per the ip manpage, it seems that "list" is
undocumented for link and addr.

(Certainly correct me if I'm wrong ... I did find a TLDP page with an
example of "ip link list", so it's known by some.)

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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-18 Thread Anthony K

On 16/11/14 11:16, david wrote:

Folks:
I'm at a loss of what to do next, namely
 - How do I tell Centos that there's a NIC, and how do I configure it?

PS:  There is no GUI, and the command line display is very tiny.

Guidance would be appreciated.


1. Get list of interfaces that are up:
ip l l

Then load the module:
modprobe forcedeth

Then check interface status again to see which has come up (if any):
ip l l

If no interface has come up, post the error on screen (if any), then 
check the logs to see if any errors are reported and post them back here 
as well.


(not sure if on C7 immediately initiates a DHCP request when the 
interface comes up)


Check if interface has an IP address:
ip a l

If no IP address, then request one via DHCP:
dhclient 

Browse the net... Done!

=

If no DHCP server on network, then set one manually as indicated below:
ip a a 1.1.1.1/24

then bring it up:
ip l set  up

then add a default route:
ip r a 0/0 via 

Browse the net... Done!

Cheers,
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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-15 Thread david

Folks:

This conversation was trying to get Centos 7 installed on a machine 
with a NIC that got de-supported in EL7.


Following the advice to do as follows:
 - Install (via CD) the "minimal" ISO
 - add the RPM of kmod-forcedeth-0.64-1.el7.elrepo.x86_64.rpm  from 
a USB stick, as obtained from ELPRO (install went without serious complaint)

I'm at a loss of what to do next, namely
 - How do I tell Centos that there's a NIC, and how do I configure it?

PS:  There is no GUI, and the command line display is very tiny.

Guidance would be appreciated.

David

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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-10 Thread Ned Slider
On 11/11/14 01:37, david wrote:
> At 03:23 PM 11/8/2014, you wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Akemi Yagi  wrote:
>>
>> > The command to display the vendor:device PCI ID is:
>> >
>> > lspci -nn | grep -i net
>>
>> That was just for the ethernet device. Remove the grep part and you'll
>> get the IDs for other hardware.
>>
>> Akemi
> 
> 
> Using the LiveCD for Centos 7, the network was "Unknown".  The results
> of the lscpi command gave
> 
> 00:14.0 Bridge [0680]: Nvidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller
> [10DE:0269] (Revision A3)
> 
> However, we could not "define" the ethernet controller and make it usable.
> 
> David


Thank you for the information.

You need the kmod-forcedeth driver from elrepo.org for that device:

http://elrepo.org/linux/elrepo/el7/x86_64/RPMS/kmod-forcedeth-0.64-1.el7.elrepo.x86_64.rpm

Download and install the driver after installing CentOS 7.

Hope that helps.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-10 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:37 PM, david  wrote:
> At 03:23 PM 11/8/2014, you wrote:

>> > The command to display the vendor:device PCI ID is:
>> >
>> > lspci -nn | grep -i net

> Using the LiveCD for Centos 7, the network was "Unknown".  The results of
> the lscpi command gave
>
> 00:14.0 Bridge [0680]: Nvidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller
> [10DE:0269] (Revision A3)
>
> However, we could not "define" the ethernet controller and make it usable.

According to the ID pairing, your network device uses the forcedeth
driver ( see http://elrepo.org/tiki/DeviceIDs ). Unfortunately this is
one of the many drivers removed from CentOS 7.

Once the OS is installed (by use of local media, for example), you can
install ELRepo's kmod-forcedeth package for el7. But tough luck with
the netinstall of the OS.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-10 Thread david

At 03:23 PM 11/8/2014, you wrote:

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Akemi Yagi  wrote:

> The command to display the vendor:device PCI ID is:
>
> lspci -nn | grep -i net

That was just for the ethernet device. Remove the grep part and you'll
get the IDs for other hardware.

Akemi



Using the LiveCD for Centos 7, the network was "Unknown".  The 
results of the lscpi command gave


00:14.0 Bridge [0680]: Nvidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller 
[10DE:0269] (Revision A3)


However, we could not "define" the ethernet controller and make it usable.

David 


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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-08 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Akemi Yagi  wrote:

> The command to display the vendor:device PCI ID is:
>
> lspci -nn | grep -i net

That was just for the ethernet device. Remove the grep part and you'll
get the IDs for other hardware.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-08 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 3:10 PM, david  wrote:
> At 02:59 PM 11/8/2014, you wrote:

>> We would need more information to answer that. The vendor:device PCI ID
>> pairing would be a good place to start. If you happen to know which
>> kernel module (driver) the device used under CentOS 6, that would be
>> helpful too.
>
> Yikes.  I could install Windoze and get that information.  How does one
> obtain that?  Currently, the machine has no operating system on it, so if C6
> can get it, I'd need to do a complete install.  That takes time but little
> brain power.  And then, I've no idea how to obtain that information in C6.

The command to display the vendor:device PCI ID is:

lspci -nn | grep -i net

I suggest you get CentOS 6 Live media and boot from there.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-08 Thread david

At 02:59 PM 11/8/2014, you wrote:

On 08/11/14 22:32, david wrote:
> At 02:26 PM 11/7/2014, you wrote:
>> On 11/7/2014 2:02 PM, david wrote:
>>> I took an older 64-bit machine, HP Pavillion A1710N
>>
>> ok, googled, and found...
>>
>> Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2Ghz
>> Geforce 6150LE chipset
>> Asus A8M2N-LA motherboard
>> 1-4GB DDR2 ram
>> SATA
>> Ethernet: 100baseT - Marvell 88EC031
>
> Good spotting...
>
> Is this device known to be "not supported" in C7?  Recall that it worked
> just fine in a C6 Net-Install.  If not supported, is there any option
> but to get an add-on card with a modern NIC.
>
> David

We would need more information to answer that. The vendor:device PCI ID
pairing would be a good place to start. If you happen to know which
kernel module (driver) the device used under CentOS 6, that would be
helpful too.


Yikes.  I could install Windoze and get that information.  How does 
one obtain that?  Currently, the machine has no operating system on 
it, so if C6 can get it, I'd need to do a complete install.  That 
takes time but little brain power.  And then, I've no idea how to 
obtain that information in C6.


David 


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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-08 Thread Ned Slider
On 08/11/14 22:32, david wrote:
> At 02:26 PM 11/7/2014, you wrote:
>> On 11/7/2014 2:02 PM, david wrote:
>>> I took an older 64-bit machine, HP Pavillion A1710N
>>
>> ok, googled, and found...
>>
>> Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2Ghz
>> Geforce 6150LE chipset
>> Asus A8M2N-LA motherboard
>> 1-4GB DDR2 ram
>> SATA
>> Ethernet: 100baseT - Marvell 88EC031
> 
> Good spotting...
> 
> Is this device known to be "not supported" in C7?  Recall that it worked
> just fine in a C6 Net-Install.  If not supported, is there any option
> but to get an add-on card with a modern NIC.
> 
> David

We would need more information to answer that. The vendor:device PCI ID
pairing would be a good place to start. If you happen to know which
kernel module (driver) the device used under CentOS 6, that would be
helpful too.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-08 Thread david

At 02:26 PM 11/7/2014, you wrote:

On 11/7/2014 2:02 PM, david wrote:

I took an older 64-bit machine, HP Pavillion A1710N


ok, googled, and found...

Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2Ghz
Geforce 6150LE chipset
Asus A8M2N-LA motherboard
1-4GB DDR2 ram
SATA
Ethernet: 100baseT - Marvell 88EC031


Good spotting...

Is this device known to be "not supported" in C7?  Recall that it 
worked just fine in a C6 Net-Install.  If not supported, is there any 
option but to get an add-on card with a modern NIC.


David 


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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-07 Thread John R Pierce

On 11/7/2014 2:02 PM, david wrote:

I took an older 64-bit machine, HP Pavillion A1710N


ok, googled, and found...

Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2Ghz
Geforce 6150LE chipset
Asus A8M2N-LA motherboard
1-4GB DDR2 ram
SATA
Ethernet: 100baseT - Marvell 88EC031



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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-07 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:02:56 -0800
david wrote:

> Just for laughs, I took an older 64-bit machine, HP Pavillion A1710N, 
> and tried a net-install of Centos7.  The installer complained that 
> there was no network devices available.
> 
> I then tried a Centos6 Netinstall disk, and it found the controller 
> and worked fine.
> 
> What should I do?  I'd love to get C7 installed on it.

Can you install the live CD on it?

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Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Net install on HP A1710N fails

2014-11-07 Thread John R Pierce

On 11/7/2014 2:02 PM, david wrote:


Just for laughs, I took an older 64-bit machine, HP Pavillion A1710N, 
and tried a net-install of Centos7.  The installer complained that 
there was no network devices available.


I then tried a Centos6 Netinstall disk, and it found the controller 
and worked fine.


What should I do?  I'd love to get C7 installed on it. 


what sort of NIC does it have on it?



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