Re: [CentOS] Ethernet Quad

2010-08-16 Thread Dan Carl
On 8/12/2010 7:56 AM, Daniel Bruno wrote:
 Hello,

 Someone can indicate some Ethernet device Quad 10/100 to use with CentOS 5.x?


 Thanks,


I use an Intel Pro 10/100 board on a CentOS 5.5 based router works quite 
well.
I've been using it since RH 7.2 so its well supported under CentOS
I bought mine as a dual and then upgraded it to a quad (was way cheaper 
at the time).
Intel made them for Compaq also.
Dan

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet Quad

2010-08-12 Thread Jerry Franz
On 08/12/2010 05:56 AM, Daniel Bruno wrote:
 Hello,

 Someone can indicate some Ethernet device Quad 10/100 to use with CentOS 5.x?


I don't know about 10/100. For 10/100/1000 I use Intel quad port boards. 
They work fine.

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet Quad

2010-08-12 Thread Juergen Gotteswinter
We have several Quads in use, Myricom  Intel. Bot work well, the 
Myricoms are cheaper.

On 08/12/2010 02:56 PM, Daniel Bruno wrote:
 Hello,

 Someone can indicate some Ethernet device Quad 10/100 to use with CentOS 5.x?


 Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet Quad

2010-08-12 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Jerry Franz jfr...@freerun.com wrote:
 On 08/12/2010 05:56 AM, Daniel Bruno wrote:
 Hello,

 Someone can indicate some Ethernet device Quad 10/100 to use with CentOS 5.x?


 I don't know about 10/100. For 10/100/1000 I use Intel quad port boards.
 They work fine.

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Sorry to hijack this thread, but it could be relevant.
As matter of interest, do these cards offer lower throughput than 4x
single 1GB cards?


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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet Quad

2010-08-12 Thread Jerry Franz
On 08/12/2010 06:06 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Jerry Franzjfr...@freerun.com  wrote:

 On 08/12/2010 05:56 AM, Daniel Bruno wrote:
  
 Someone can indicate some Ethernet device Quad 10/100 to use with CentOS 5.x
 I don't know about 10/100. For 10/100/1000 I use Intel quad port boards.
 They work fine.
  


 Sorry to hijack this thread, but it could be relevant.
 As matter of interest, do these cards offer lower throughput than 4x
 single 1GB cards?



Depends mostly on if you are using PCI/PCI-X vs PCI-express. At high bit 
rates you can saturate the old PCI bus. A single gigabit port can pretty 
much saturate a 32-bit PCI bus at 33MHz.

PCI-express can go a lot faster.

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet Quad

2010-08-12 Thread Michel van Deventer
 On 08/12/2010 06:06 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Jerry Franzjfr...@freerun.com  wrote:

 On 08/12/2010 05:56 AM, Daniel Bruno wrote:

 Someone can indicate some Ethernet device Quad 10/100 to use with
 CentOS 5.x
 I don't know about 10/100. For 10/100/1000 I use Intel quad port
 boards.
 They work fine.



 Sorry to hijack this thread, but it could be relevant.
 As matter of interest, do these cards offer lower throughput than 4x
 single 1GB cards?
If you should use them in a PCI slot yes, not if you use them in a PCI-X
or PCI-e slot (although you could saturate a PCI-e x1 with 4 gbit ports I
think).




 Depends mostly on if you are using PCI/PCI-X vs PCI-express. At high bit
 rates you can saturate the old PCI bus. A single gigabit port can pretty
 much saturate a 32-bit PCI bus at 33MHz.

 PCI-express can go a lot faster.
The Intel Quad cards don't fit (and don't then) in a single PCI slot.
The Intel Dual Gbit cards do and you can saturate a PCI slot with it quite
easy :)

   Regards,

   Michel

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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet Quad

2010-08-12 Thread Alexander Dalloz
 As matter of interest, do these cards offer lower throughput than 4x
 single 1GB cards?

 Depends mostly on if you are using PCI/PCI-X vs PCI-express. At high bit
 rates you can saturate the old PCI bus. A single gigabit port can pretty
 much saturate a 32-bit PCI bus at 33MHz.

 PCI-express can go a lot faster.

 Benjamin Franz

And on current multi CPU / multi core plattforms care to have support for
MSI-X on the motherboard and by the Ethernet controller (for 10Gbe and
virtualization this is even a must to gain maximum performance).

Alexander



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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet Quad

2010-08-12 Thread Drew
 Sorry to hijack this thread, but it could be relevant.
 As matter of interest, do these cards offer lower throughput than 4x
 single 1GB cards?
 If you should use them in a PCI slot yes, not if you use them in a PCI-X
 or PCI-e slot (although you could saturate a PCI-e x1 with 4 gbit ports I
 think).

Not with the Intel Pro 1000's. The PCIe versions require a x4 slot in
the dual or quad configuration. Can't speak to the PCI-X version as I
don't have any in my inventory.


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Re: [CentOS] Ethernet Quad

2010-08-12 Thread John R Pierce
  On 08/12/10 10:35 AM, Drew wrote:
 Not with the Intel Pro 1000's. The PCIe versions require a x4 slot in 
 the dual or quad configuration. Can't speak to the PCI-X version as I 
 don't have any in my inventory.


yeah, a single PCI-E 'lane' (eg, x1) is only about twice as fast as a 
PCI 32 bit 33Mhz desktop slot. (250MB/sec vs 133MB/sec burst).  As soon 
as you get into multiple devices contending for a channel, actual 
performance goes down considerably due to the overhead of contention 
negotiation.

PCI-E x4 has 4 of these lanes, so each of the 4 NICs can effectively 
have a lane to itself.   Full duplex gigE is, in theory, capable of 
120MB/sec read *and* 120MB/sec write at the same time, so this exceeds 
that single 32bit/33Mhz PCI slot by quite a lot..

PCI-E x4 is roughly equivalent to PCI-X (100-133Mhz, 64bit, about 
1Gbyte/sec), and any high performance IO device in a server should be in 
a x4 slot.


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