Re: [CentOS] FYI: http

[cpolish]

On 2016-06-02 15:44, David Nelson wrote:
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Always Learning  wrote:
> > 
> > When the Internet is working, I never had a problem. So perhaps you are
> > correct, Firefox is sending local domain names and everything typed into
> > Firefox's URL slot to Google for people monitoring purposes ;-)
> > 
> > How can one disable this latest privacy abusing tactic ?
> 
> 
> Go to Settings > Search and uncheck “Provide search suggestions”.
> 
> Or alternately just make sure that “Show search suggestions in location bar 
> results” is turned off. (Not sure whether it is on by default...) 

Browse to about:config, filter on "http", see the long list of
sites Firefox needs to contact in order to better serve you. In
some cases I serve the sites locally, for others I replaced the
protocol string with hxxp. Don't need all the excess traffic and
extra eyes on my browsing habits, boring as they may be.

The greatest pain with Firefox came from trying to build from
source. They've got very strange ideas of how complex and
customized a build system needs to be. Apparently they couldn't
figure out autotools and make.

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Re: [CentOS] FYI: http

[Scott Robbins]

On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 05:55:15PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> On Thu, June 2, 2016 5:14 pm, Scott Robbins wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:49PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >>
> >> I for one am looking for decent replacement for firefox for at least 5
> >> years (no, do not suggest chrome, or google anything, please), still
> >> without success. 
> >
> > What about palemoon? I've been using it on CentOS-7.x for awhlie.
> > It accepts most firefox plugins and works quite well.
> 
> Thanks Scott! Palemoon sounds really promising. I even vaguely remember
> someone mentioned it to me a while ago (you?). It fell off my attention
> probably because my main workstation is FreeBSD (and such is my laptop).
> But I'm sure, I will have no problem building palemoon. So, few months
> from now most likely I will have it s my main browser (if so I probably
> will volunteer to maintain palemoon FreeBSD port, unless someone else
> does).

Well, if you want someone to try it, let me know.  :)  One doesn't even
have to build palemoon, you can run their install.sh script and it should
just create it and put the files in /opt.


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Re: [CentOS] FYI: http

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Thu, June 2, 2016 5:14 pm, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:49PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> I for one am looking for decent replacement for firefox for at least 5
>> years (no, do not suggest chrome, or google anything, please), still
>> without success. The bizarre with Firefox started shortly after a guy I
>> know (as undergraduate student in our Department) became production
>> director of Mozilla Foundation. Not that I'm saying he is to blame, but
>> what I know about him lies exactly in what I observe happening with
>> firefox (to add to what you mentioned: rushing "release" after "release"
>> without decent debugging...).
>
> What about palemoon? I've been using it on CentOS-7.x for awhlie.
> It accepts most firefox plugins and works quite well.

Thanks Scott! Palemoon sounds really promising. I even vaguely remember
someone mentioned it to me a while ago (you?). It fell off my attention
probably because my main workstation is FreeBSD (and such is my laptop).
But I'm sure, I will have no problem building palemoon. So, few months
from now most likely I will have it s my main browser (if so I probably
will volunteer to maintain palemoon FreeBSD port, unless someone else
does).

Thanks a lot!

Valeri

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Re: [CentOS] FYI: http

[David Nelson]

On Jun 2, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Always Learning  wrote:
> 
> When the Internet is working, I never had a problem. So perhaps you are
> correct, Firefox is sending local domain names and everything typed into
> Firefox's URL slot to Google for people monitoring purposes ;-)
> 
> How can one disable this latest privacy abusing tactic ?


Go to Settings > Search and uncheck “Provide search suggestions”.

Or alternately just make sure that “Show search suggestions in location bar 
results” is turned off. (Not sure whether it is on by default...) 
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Re: [CentOS] FYI: http

[Always Learning]

On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 16:25 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

> what you put into location bar, instead of jut going directly to that
> location? Helps filling search providers databases, especially if they
> fed
> you unexpiring cookie. But not all of search engines do that crap,
> duckduckgo doesn't as far as I know.

Yesterday part of England's wired Internet network broke down circa
03:15 GMT.

When I tried, in Firefox, to access local web sites hosted on the server
I was working on, Firefox could not find the domains. Instead I got a
circular revolving display indicating Firefox was trying to connect to
the site.

All those local domains had non-internet names (e.g. no .com / tld etc.)
and have IP addresses (10.22.22.124) in /etc/hosts

When the Internet is working, I never had a problem. So perhaps you are
correct, Firefox is sending local domain names and everything typed into
Firefox's URL slot to Google for people monitoring purposes ;-)

How can one disable this latest privacy abusing tactic ?



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Re: [CentOS] FYI: http

[Scott Robbins]

On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:49PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> I for one am looking for decent replacement for firefox for at least 5
> years (no, do not suggest chrome, or google anything, please), still
> without success. The bizarre with Firefox started shortly after a guy I
> know (as undergraduate student in our Department) became production
> director of Mozilla Foundation. Not that I'm saying he is to blame, but
> what I know about him lies exactly in what I observe happening with
> firefox (to add to what you mentioned: rushing "release" after "release"
> without decent debugging...).

What about palemoon? I've been using it on CentOS-7.x for awhlie.
It accepts most firefox plugins and works quite well.

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Re: [CentOS] FYI: http

[Benjamin Smith]

On Thursday, June 02, 2016 04:25:49 PM Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> Anyway, question for everybody: does anybody know decent browser to
> replace Firefox? (Please, do not offer google chrome, thank you again). I
> use midori for quite some time, I didn't fully switch over to midori from
> Firefox, however. I didn't get alone with konqueror somehow (didn't spent
> much time with it though), tried vivaldi browser and didn't like it (not

I know you don't want Google Chrome and I understand. What about the open-
source cousin of Chrome, Chromium? It doesn't have flash embedded in it so you 
have to install that separately, and it also doesn't come with all the Google 
tie-ins. 
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Re: [CentOS] FYI: http

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Thu, June 2, 2016 2:58 pm, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
> I just had to browse to a printer... and with https-use-strict at a server
> higher up, firefox *would* *not* let me get there. I don't see the
> circa-2012 printer offering https.
>
> Luckily, there was konqueror, which *did* let me go to http://
>
> I just *adore* SmartSoftware that Won't Let You Endanger Yourself
> Reminds me of Jack Williamson's old novel, The Humanoids. (You aren't
> allowed to use that sharp knife, you might cut yourself. Or drive
> yourself. Or)

Mark, I fully agree with you... I wish we all were venting out this onto
Mozilla Foundation directorate.


I for one am looking for decent replacement for firefox for at least 5
years (no, do not suggest chrome, or google anything, please), still
without success. The bizarre with Firefox started shortly after a guy I
know (as undergraduate student in our Department) became production
director of Mozilla Foundation. Not that I'm saying he is to blame, but
what I know about him lies exactly in what I observe happening with
firefox (to add to what you mentioned: rushing "release" after "release"
without decent debugging...).
To add to that, how do you like the behavior of browsers: doing search on
what you put into location bar, instead of jut going directly to that
location? Helps filling search providers databases, especially if they fed
you unexpiring cookie. But not all of search engines do that crap,
duckduckgo doesn't as far as I know.


Anyway, question for everybody: does anybody know decent browser to
replace Firefox? (Please, do not offer google chrome, thank you again). I
use midori for quite some time, I didn't fully switch over to midori from
Firefox, however. I didn't get alone with konqueror somehow (didn't spent
much time with it though), tried vivaldi browser and didn't like it (not
to mention: closed source...)

Valeri

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