Re: [CentOS] Help with backups

2007-08-23 Thread Denis

Scott Ehrlich wrote:

I've got a Redhat 5 server running Samba, and two dualboot CentOS 5
workstations.

Until we get a better backup strategy, I'm backing up the workstations to the
server via mounting a shared samba drive to /mnt.

  
I don't know if I have interpreted exactly what you are trying to do but 
I have used the program rdiff-backup to backup samba directories for a 
30 pc computer lab. This software allow incremental backup which was 
what I liked about it. I also was able to use the remote features of the 
software (with ssh) to backup from my samba server to another server. It 
worked just fine.


I am doing less of that because I also backup a number of staff windows 
machines that are connected to our campus MS domain. I have used a 
product for many years (it started on mac then win) - Dantz/EMC 
Retrospect.  This has the ability to backup linux computers. One of my 
reasons for going this direction is my servers have expensive scsi 
drives vs cheap sata drives on the Retro box. It does incremental 
backups and is easy to setup backups through the Retro GIU.


Good luck.

Denis Becker
Information Technology - Engineering
MN State Univ., Mankato


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Re: [CentOS] Help with backups

2007-08-20 Thread Ken Price


What do people suggest?

Thanks.

Scott


Scott,

RSYNC!

For info:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync
Homepage:  http://rsync.samba.org/

Clients available for Win32 as well.  This is an easy, tried-and-true  
method of backing up a workstation (or other servers) to a central  
server.  RSYNC only copies over new/changed files, so you have a more  
efficient backup.  You can also easily keep incremental backups.


-Ken


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Re: [CentOS] Help with backups

2007-08-20 Thread Tom Brown


I've got a Redhat 5 server running Samba, and two dualboot CentOS 5 
workstations.


Until we get a better backup strategy, I'm backing up the workstations 
to the server via mounting a shared samba drive to /mnt.


Trying tar cvf /mnt/samba_share/backup.tar /* eventually yields 
backing up /mnt, which produces an unwanted loop, including 
/mnt/samba_share


I looked at tar with --exclude /mnt but didn't seem to get the results 
I wanted.


I tried dump, which looked like it was working, but I have no idea 
what files it was backing up, and couldn't find an option in the man 
page to have it show me the files.  I would have let it go, but since 
I couldn't be sure about /mnt recusion, I opted out of it.


I ended up, for now, tarring each top-level directory to its own tar 
file, except, of course, for /mnt.


What do people suggest?



www.amanda.org

backed up windows servers using this and its great -

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Re: [CentOS] Help with backups

2007-08-20 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Monday, August 20, 2007 11:11 AM -0500 Les Mikesell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Yes, unfortunately you have to choose between being able to keep much
more history online with no need to install a client agent and being able
to save windows metadata.  Bacula also has better integration for tape
archiving.  Backuppc can write to tapes but it is sort of an afterthought.


Yes, I'm looking at having to use Bacula for my Windows servers for their 
metadata but I'd sure like to have BackupPC's ability to store single 
copies of common files from multiple clients.


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Re: [CentOS] Help with backups

2007-08-20 Thread Les Mikesell

Kenneth Porter wrote:
--On Monday, August 20, 2007 11:11 AM -0500 Les Mikesell 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Yes, unfortunately you have to choose between being able to keep much
more history online with no need to install a client agent and being able
to save windows metadata.  Bacula also has better integration for tape
archiving.  Backuppc can write to tapes but it is sort of an 
afterthought.


Yes, I'm looking at having to use Bacula for my Windows servers for 
their metadata but I'd sure like to have BackupPC's ability to store 
single copies of common files from multiple clients.


Some people on the backuppc mail list have mentioned using ntbackup to 
dump system state and some critical files to a local disk file that is 
picked up by the backuppc run and living with the client's-eye view of 
the rest.


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Re: [CentOS] Help with backups

2007-08-17 Thread Steve Searle
Around 01:56am on Saturday, August 18, 2007 (UK time), Scott Ehrlich scrawled:

 Trying tar cvf /mnt/samba_share/backup.tar /* eventually yields backing up 
 /mnt, which produces an unwanted loop, including /mnt/samba_share
 
 I looked at tar with --exclude /mnt but didn't seem to get the results I 
 wanted.

tar cvf /mnt/samba_share/backup.tar --exclude=/mnt /*

I'd also use nfs, not samba.

Steve

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Re: [CentOS] Help with backups

2007-08-17 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, August 17, 2007 8:56 PM -0400 Scott Ehrlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



I tried dump, which looked like it was working, but I have no idea what
files it was backing up, and couldn't find an option in the man page to
have it show me the files.  I would have let it go, but since I couldn't
be sure about /mnt recusion, I opted out of it.


dump is great. I've been using it since Red Hat 5.2.

It doesn't back up through the filesystem. It backs up directly through the 
raw device, using the ext3 library. Because of this, it backs up one 
partition per invocation. If you want to back up more than one partition, 
you need to run dump multiple times, saving each dump file separately. Dump 
first saves partition-wide metadata, then the directories, then the files.


It can optionally write helper files (quick file access, or QFA) to make it 
easy for restore to rapidly find a file in a restore operation even if your 
dump spans multiple tapes. (The QFA file records the seek points for each 
inode.)


By default, dump saves the entire partition. You can mark files to exclude 
(using chattr) and with an appropriate command line switch dump will then 
exclude those files.


Because dump uses the raw device and not the filesystem, it will also backup
files hidden behind a mount point. This can make verify operations (using 
restore) confusing because restore *does* use the filesystem and won't be 
able to reach the files hidden behind mount points. But you do get an 
accurate representation of the real state of the partition.


dump has its own support page and mailing list:

http://dump.sourceforge.net/
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